[QUOTE=OwnedByTheDog;31281035]It's only racist when white people do it.[/QUOTE]
Don't even get me started on this shit....
This guy has a point that no one else I know IRL shares agreement with me. Here's another example of how feminists have reversed the look of things.
How people define obsession of sex between males and females on the Urban Dictionary:
Usual definition of [b]Pervert[/b]:
A guy who is obsessed with sex. (pretty much always used in a derogative form.)
Usual definition of [b]Nymphomaniac[/b]:
A girl who is obsessed with sex. (every time this is defined, they add "but the girl isn't a slut or anything, she's a perfectly normal person" after it)
[QUOTE=OwnedByTheDog;31281035]It's only racist when white people do it.[/QUOTE]
i think this is like when you troll your little brother you find it funny, but if someone else trolls him you find it offensive.
Maybe race jokes are fun while they are made by the same race, i dont know.
[QUOTE=ruarai;31281308][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2d2SzRZvsQ[/media][/QUOTE]
Morgan Freeman is awesome.
There's so much agree in this video.
Holy fuck, I'm agreeing as hard as I can.
> call everyone a cunt
> complain about sexism
i find this discussion of male sexism extremely stupid because it's literally based upon absolutely nothing. instead of creating an intelligent discussion about sexism against both genders, we have to put up with stupid bullshit about "feminism" and "women" when the people who express these views lack any understanding.
but no-one really cares, you just wanna say stupid shit so everyone will agree with you. the amazing atheist isn't clever nor an intellectual. he's just a angry asshole who hates everything and he reflects the userbase that subscribe to him.
carry on FP, tell me more about how hard it is to be a white male in society...
[QUOTE=thisispain;31284414]i find this discussion of male sexism extremely stupid because it's literally based upon absolutely nothing.[/QUOTE] Gender stereotypes don't exist?
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The reason why we are talking about male sexism not female sexism is because female sexism is always talked about but yet male sexism isn't
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[QUOTE=thisispain;31284414]tell me more about how hard it is to be a white male in society...[/QUOTE] Im a minority but even I can agree that racism and sexism is wrong on both sides. Sure being a white male means you probably wont have to deal with as many problems as a lot of people but it doesn't mean any form of bigotry against them is alright.
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The reason why we are talking about male sexism not female sexism is because female sexism is always talked about but yet male sexism isn't[/QUOTE]
because male sexism is on a completely different level than female sexism. male sexism becomes irrelevant when you consider that men are in power which means they have higher economic mobility and stability. the problem in our society with women is institutional misogyny. male sexism is far more benign and far less damaging, but everyone in threads like these will not consider that out of spite.
compare this obviously empty-headed joke which was more out of taste than misandric to pornography and women portrayed in fiction. if you can't see the difference then you're being intentionally naive and that's exactly what's so destructive and that's exactly why no-one here is helping to defeat male sexism in anyway.
[QUOTE=thisispain;31284545]male sexism becomes irrelevant when you consider that men are in power[/QUOTE] What exactly do you mean they are in power? Do you mean they are in the government. Do you believe there is some of sexism stopping women from getting into power? Even if that were true I don't see how it makes sexism towards them alright. But again no one is saying that female sexism doesn't exist. All we are saying is that male sexism is bad too. Besides female sexism is less common then male. By that I mean you can get away with more and it is used more for males then it is females. Also I see nothing wrong with pornography. Its an obvious fantasy and is not trying to be taken seriesly. Besides there is also porn for women.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;31284453]it doesn't mean any form of bigotry against them is alright.[/QUOTE]
which would be true if it was actually bigotry...
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[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;31284560]What exactly do you mean they are in power? Do you mean they are in the government. Do you believe there is some of sexism stopping women from getting into power? Even if that were true I don't see how it makes sexism towards them alright. But again no one is saying that female sexism doesn't exist. All we are saying is that male sexism is bad too.[/QUOTE]
no you aren't *just* saying male sexism is bad. that's my point. no-one in this thread and others has done anything to explain male sexism.
if we wanna talk about male sexism let's talk about circumcision, let's talk about domestic abuse. not shit that you saw on TV and feminists.
[QUOTE=thisispain;31284583]which would be true if it was actually bigotry...[/QUOTE] So your saying there aren't females who believe that all men are pigs and jerks? Really? You hear it all the time from people and they get a lot more support then a man who would say all women are sluts or bitches. Again sexism is bad on both sides and I don't see why you can't agree.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;31284620]So your saying there aren't females who believe that all men are pigs and jerks? Really? You hear it all the time from people and they get a lot more support then a man who would say all women are sluts.[/QUOTE]
to be honest? not at all in the same way. and how many people go "hell yeah" when a dude bitches about his ex-wife? how many people go "hell yeah" when a woman complains about his husband. that's not sexism, not by a long shot.
but ask how me how many women i know who based on their appearance did not get what they worked very hard for? i know plenty of them and i've been around and talked to a lot of people. the way i figure is my anecdotal evidence checks out because i actually do talk to these people. i know feminists and i can tell you i've never met a single person who sincerely believes all men are pigs.
i'm talking about real-life while other people tend to be a bit more interested in following the social narrative the media sets up. that's not honest.
[QUOTE=thisispain;31284583]no you aren't *just* saying male sexism is bad. that's my point. no-one in this thread and others has done anything to explain male sexism.
if we wanna talk about male sexism let's talk about circumcision, let's talk about domestic abuse. not shit that you saw on TV and feminists.[/QUOTE] That is a form of sexism though and it shouldn't be more acceptable to be sexist against men then it is women on tv. There other cases too. Like how a man should pay for dinner, ladies first or how a male should leave a door open for a female instead of simply leave a door open for a person.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;31284660]That is a form of sexism though and it shouldn't be more acceptable to be sexist against men then it is women on tv. There other cases too. Like how a man should pay for dinner, ladies first or how a male should leave a door open for a female instead of simply leave a door open for a person.[/QUOTE]
men having to pay for dinner is sexist but not against men at all. it doesn't devalue men because it assumes they can pay for it and are the breadwinners. you're twisting around shit to create a narrative that doesn't check out.
[QUOTE=thisispain;31284655]i'm talking about real-life while other people tend to be a bit more interested in following the social narrative the media sets up. that's not honest.[/QUOTE] Real life. What about how men rarely report when they get raped by women because of how girly they may look?
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[QUOTE=thisispain;31284677]men having to pay for dinner is sexist but not against men at all. it doesn't devalue men because it assumes they can pay for it and are the breadwinners. you're twisting around shit to create a narrative that doesn't check out.[/QUOTE] This isn't the 30s women can make as much money as a man can so the fact that its still around is bullshit and yes it is against the man if in todays world they are the ones who have to pay when again a women can make the same amount.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;31284683]Real life. What about how men rarely report when they get raped by women because of how girly they may look?[/QUOTE]
no that's real, but my point wasn't that misandry doesn't exist. my point is that squabbling over media stereotypes and how male sexism is ignored isn't productive to solving the issue of male sexism. you don't solve misandry with blatant misogyny!
[QUOTE=thisispain;31284700]no that's real, but my point wasn't that misandry doesn't exist. my point is that squabbling over media stereotypes and how male sexism is ignored isn't productive to solving the issue of male sexism. you don't solve misandry with blatant misogyny![/QUOTE] How exactly is saying that male sexism is bad and siting examples misogyny?
Oh I also thought it would be a great time to link to one of zekes threads involving male victims of sexual violence
[url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1108185-Male-victims-of-sexual-violence-in-war-the-story-that-doesn-t-get-told?highlight=[/url]
And besides the video wasn't just talking about males in the media.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;31284745]How exactly is saying that male sexism is bad and siting examples misogyny? [/QUOTE]
surely i don't have to explain how certain "examples" stem more from misogyny than actual reality?
[QUOTE=thisispain;31284761]surely i don't have to explain how certain "examples" stem more from misogyny than actual reality?[/QUOTE] Even if some male sexism stems from misogyny it only means it should be stopped even more. Again explain how fighting against male sexism is bad.
[QUOTE=OwnedByTheDog;31281035]It's only racist when white people do it.[/QUOTE]
No but it IS only a hate crime when white people do it!
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;31284787]Again explain how fighting against male sexism is bad.[/QUOTE]
i never said that, what i said was nobody here really cares about male sexism, they're just interested in being spiteful
TAA doesn't care about male sexism else he'd talk about shit that's relevant and have an honest conversation
oh man all this arguing
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[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;31285311]oh man all this arguing
[IMG]http://dangerousandbeautiful.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/michael-jackson-thriller-eating-popcorn-animated.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]
I love that gif so much.
[QUOTE=thisispain;31284414]> call everyone a cunt
> complain about sexism
i find this discussion of male sexism extremely stupid because it's literally based upon absolutely nothing. instead of creating an intelligent discussion about sexism against both genders, we have to put up with stupid bullshit about "feminism" and "women" when the people who express these views lack any understanding.
but no-one really cares, you just wanna say stupid shit so everyone will agree with you. the amazing atheist isn't clever nor an intellectual. he's just a angry asshole who hates everything and he reflects the userbase that subscribe to him.
carry on FP, tell me more about how hard it is to be a white male in society...[/QUOTE]
You explain how hard it fucking is to be a white women in society. Women now have strong, progressing carreers, I must say that where I live (Israel) sexism almost doesn't exist, I'd pay the same respect to a man and a woman. Also there are RULES to defende women in society, I don't say that those rules are wrong to have, they're actually great to have. But the problem is with the TYPE of situation they're dealing with each time. Like he said, two people get a divorce, when did you see a case where the man "gets the kids"? The law system instantly moves towards woman, and that is sexism, but when the sexism is this way, all leaning toward them side, women don't have a freaking problem about it.
[QUOTE=OZPruduction;31285453]I must say that where I live (Israel) sexism doesn't exist[/QUOTE]
is that a joke?
[QUOTE=thisispain;31285634]is that a joke?[/QUOTE]
I think a guy in Israel, knows more about Israel than you do.
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