[QUOTE=Kung Fu Jew;33825307]Not in a God-ruler dictatorship[/QUOTE]
The cult of personality around the leader is much bigger than the leader himself. If he deviated from his propaganda-made image and the nationalist idea of "best Korea", there would be great backlash both from the public and from other government officials.
[editline]21st December 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;33825487]I knew I should've made a thread for this. Anyway to me it seems most likely like nothing will happen, just a new supreme leader who's no worse than the last. It's possible that South Korea and/or one of its allies would seize the opportunity and invade the country. I for one am fearful that the Homefront backstory could come true but it's unlikely.[/QUOTE]
South Korea wouldn't dare make a direct invasion - there are enough guns pointed at Seoul to level it in under an hour or less. No, it would have to either be a gradual diplomacy or a very elaborate, multi-national effort to strike in many places at once by surprise. Plus, China would be pissed if South Korea invaded and brought in its allies.
With Jong-Un in power now, he may be tempted to act out.
I think they will find a new dictator. Society like Korea craves for ones, they don't know how to live different
Homefront happens
[QUOTE=Adarrek;33843717]Homefront happens[/QUOTE]
Only we would probably win.
[QUOTE=BloodFox1222;33846215]Only we would probably win.[/QUOTE]
wait you lose at the end of gam.?
[QUOTE=theevilldeadII;33928403]wait you lose at the end of gam.?[/QUOTE]
he means north korea wouldn't take over the US and he's right because they can't do that
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[QUOTE=tier56;33827658]I agree. If shit goes down like in Homefront.............[/QUOTE]
Then nothing will happen because the north Korean military is about sixty years behind the americans and less than a tenth it's size.
[QUOTE=wizard`;33929773]While remaining an important but not a huge part of why they can't wage war against the rest of the world considering most of my countries (Australia) tanks, planes and warships are 15-30 years old and bought from the US and other NATO countries yet we still kick ass in war games. Besides our close neighbour Indonesia is using a lot of old soviet and american gear but they are still a highly effective army.
I think what it really comes down to is their (supply of and) ability to mobilise resources. North Korea lack (as you said) the food and fuel to wage anything over a few day war to be honest and they don't have enough infrastructure involved in their logistics and deployment structure in order to control their forces effectively against a 270 degree front line. Saying that however it will be a long time before things change in N-Korea as there is no hope for us to invade them and develop the country because we would be facing a 30 year gorilla war against the population as Kim has fucked those people so hard they actually believe the bullshit he says. [/QUOTE]
You;re right. the DPRK military isnt trained in conventional warfare, theyre trained in guerilla.
[QUOTE=huntskikbut;33807278]What the fuck are you on about, Il was only in power for 17 years.[/QUOTE]
You're aware that he's been around for far longer, right? The cult of personality of North Korea was built around him after Kim Jong Sung aged and it became clearer that Kim Jong Il would succeed him, he's been known since at least the 1980's as the Dear Leader.
usa is dominate.
[QUOTE=Broguts;33929950]Then nothing will happen because the north Korean military is about sixty years behind the americans and less than a tenth it's size.[/QUOTE]
Everyone makes comments like that whenever somebody suggests the possibility of the Homefront backstory coming true. And frankly it just makes them look like idiots because it means they have no idea what the Homefront story even is. Please actually read it before you make statements like that. A key part of it was that "The Greater Korean Republic" modernized and expanded it's army.
I see two possible outcomes, with varying odds of happening.
Outcome 1: North Korea continues to be a dictatorship, sees little or no change under Kim Jong-un. This seems the most likely outcome to me.
Outcome 2: Kim Jong-un turns out to be a Gorbachev style reformer, and reforms the country leading either to a change in to a democratic state or the collapse of the state with either one eventually leading to Korean reunification. Most unlikely outcome to me and to be honest I maybe a bit too optimistic in this outcome.
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;33931907]Everyone makes comments like that whenever somebody suggests the possibility of the Homefront backstory coming true. And frankly it just makes them look like idiots because it means they have no idea what the Homefront story even is. Please actually read it before you make statements like that. A key part of it was that "The Greater Korean Republic" modernized and expanded it's army.[/QUOTE]
By conquering japan and china, who both have more advanced and larger millitaries than Korea could EVER muster.
If the U.S. goes to war with NK, we will be on the Korean border.
They won't invade us.
[QUOTE=Warfang;33936425]If the U.S. goes to war with NK, we will be on the Korean border.
They won't invade us.[/QUOTE]
That and if anyone (including Korea) attacks a U.N. or N.A.T.O. country, they've got all of europe to deal with.
[QUOTE=Broguts;33936132]By conquering japan and china, who both have more advanced and larger millitaries than Korea could EVER muster.[/QUOTE]
Don't recall China coming into the mix. Aside from the GKR using Chinese made rifles. They started by modernizing their army using mostly the gear that the ROK army had, which includes some pretty modern stuff. Then they started taking over middle eastern countries, gaining access to a large supply of oil, that way they had the money to continue buying more and more equipment as well as developing nukes and drones. Japan they invaded by sabotaging a nuclear reactor and threatening to set off more if they did not surrender. The U.S. they crippled with an ElectroMagnetic Pulse weapon that fried most electronics, they then invaded the west coast as well as bombarded the midwest with nukes, the radiation contaminated the Mississippi river and cut the nation in half, the western half of which was open for occupation.
[editline]28th December 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Broguts;33937139]That and if anyone (including Korea) attacks a U.N. or N.A.T.O. country, they've got all of europe to deal with.[/QUOTE]
They made it look like they were there to provide humanitarian aid and help the country get back on its feet. Also you have to remember that the global economic crisis had hit rock bottom at the time.
Face it, if Un gets his hands on a copy of Homefront, we're screwed.
War.
dead?
who are you
what are you
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;34026269][url]http://www.facepunch.com/members/463822-theyromg[/url]
just some clever user snatching up the name after the account disappeared. If you check the event log for FP the account joined within the last hour.[/QUOTE]
I think "Best" Korea will now become "Worst".
Coup d'état
[QUOTE=Satansick;34033853]Coup d'état[/QUOTE]
Not bloody likely. You forget that these people actually support this man, mostly due to the fact that they have little to no knowledge of what the rest of the world is like.
Now we cry, and cheer for our new leader!
TBH, i think it will be the same..
we will all bow to our communist masters.
or korea will stay the same.
[QUOTE=Big Bang;33795372]Unification is now closer to be attained than ever. Kim Jong Il was simply too old and has been in a position of power for far too long to allow himself to be defeated after a war this long. He needed to go down as someone who wouldn't back down, and thus, the stalemate that ensued on the Korean peninsula. With him gone, and with a much younger, modern leader in charge, the South can finally restart their attempts at diplomacy. That, or just attempt an invasion which will most likely succeed with a much younger and inexperienced leader in charge of North Korea.[/QUOTE]
Not to mention after many years of famine and a slow withdraw of Chinese support. SK could probably take them themselves, though it would be bloody.
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