a long ambiant avant grand peice about life and death - General

i listened to it through headphones, and i have to say i do like it. :) pls dont argue with hakita he knows nothing (he hates Miles Davis' Get Up With It)

[QUOTE=Hakita;39971710]Your song isn't innovative because there are people who have made songs with simple synths and sound effects before. 4'33" is innovative, because it's a completely new take on music as a whole.[/QUOTE] like what? give me an example of a song that combines sound effects with simplistic snyths to get across such a complicated message in the way that mine does

[QUOTE=AK'z;39971713]pls dont argue with hakita he knows nothing (he hates Miles Davis' Get Up With It)[/QUOTE] what an abhorrent person. i'm glad someone sees what i've been doing :-)

[QUOTE=twofish;39971726]like what? give me an example of a song that combines sound effects with simplistic snyths to get across such a complicated message in the way that mine does[/QUOTE] If yours got across a complicated message, how come nobody has been talking about that message before you explained what it was [QUOTE=AK'z;39971713]i listened to it through headphones, and i have to say i do like it. :) pls dont argue with hakita he knows nothing (he hates Miles Davis' Get Up With It)[/QUOTE] I don't hate Get Up With It, I simply didn't enjoy it that much. At least that still had quite a few redeeming qualities, as opposed to this track.

[QUOTE=Hakita;39971741]If yours got across a complicated message, how come nobody has been talking about that message before you explained what it was[/QUOTE] because you've all been so focused on how 'shite' the synths sound and how it doesn't contain a single drop. i don't mean to sound like a pretentious dick, but maybe the main problem in your case is that it's just too complex for you to understand. but dont feel down, it's ok not to understand, but in the future can you perhaps be more mindful of this? [QUOTE=Hakita;39971741]I don't hate Get Up With It, I simply didn't enjoy it that much.[/QUOTE] truely sickening

[QUOTE=twofish;39971751]because you've all been so focused on how 'shite' the synths sound and how it doesn't contain a single drop[/QUOTE] Protip: Nobody who has talked about there being a drop has been serious. [editline]19th March 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=twofish;39971751]truely sickening[/QUOTE] People have opinions, how sickening.

[QUOTE=Hakita;39971772]Protip: Nobody who has talked about there being a drop has been serious. [editline]19th March 2013[/editline] People have opinions, how sickening.[/QUOTE] protip: i wasn't being serious about finding you sickening, it was merely a reaction to your negative comments about my song

[QUOTE=twofish;39971848]protip: i wasn't being serious about finding you sickening[/QUOTE] Sorry, quite hard to tell your sarcasm apart from you being serious when your posting quality is equally terrible at both times.

[QUOTE=Hakita;39971881]Sorry, quite hard to tell your sarcasm apart from you being serious when your posting quality is equally terrible at both times.[/QUOTE] well this is just getting childish of you. how about you post something constructive instead of using petty insults because you don't like my band's sound

[QUOTE=twofish;39971893]well this is just getting childish of you. how about you post something constructive instead of using petty insults because you don't like my band's sound[/QUOTE] I did and you pretty much ignored my advice. Here it is again to remind you: [QUOTE=Hakita;39944091]Never heard of the avant grand, and since you made quite a few typos in the title, I thought that that was just a typo of avant garde. I'm notifying that it's not long, because your title claimed it to be long, not because it makes the song worse. And what would I change? Scrap the crying sounds, or at least lessen their use. They add nothing to the song, other than annoyance. Add more variety, since right now it's just one or two keyboard tracks playing chords while, perhaps by adding more instruments, maybe some percussion, or at least modifying the keyboard's sound a bit during the song. Also, pan it more. Right now it sounds like a song thats trying to sound open and airy, but it's almost completely stuck in the center. There's a reason stereo sound is more popular than mono. That should be a start for you.[/QUOTE]

all need to chill and get down to some ak'drone [media]http://soundcloud.com/akayz_people/akayz-harmonium-demo[/media] that's some smooth soul right there.

[QUOTE=Hakita;39971920]I did and you pretty much ignored my advice. Here it is again to remind you:[/QUOTE] maybe if you actually posted something objective i could change it. i can't change the fact that you don't like the entire song.

[QUOTE=twofish;39971958]maybe if you actually posted something objective i could change it. i can't change the fact that you don't like the entire song.[/QUOTE] Well it's a wee bit hard to write objective feedback on music, which happens to be an incredibly subjective thing.

i object

[QUOTE=Hakita;39971988]Well it's a wee bit hard to write objective feedback on music, which happens to be an incredibly subjective thing.[/QUOTE] the point of the song to have the crying throughout and percussion would ruin the atmosphere i have spent time building. its like you dont even know what ambiance and subtley is. the only other thing you commented on was how you didnt like t he fact that it was mostly mono which is a personal preferance art is not subjective. it is an objective form of delight pertaining to or characteristic of an individual

[QUOTE=twofish;39972040]the point of the song to have the crying throughout and percussion would ruin the atmosphere i have spent time building. its like you dont even know what ambiance and subtley is.[/QUOTE] Too bad your "atmosphere" is barely any at all. I enjoy good ambient and drone music, I do happen to know what ambiance and subtlety is, yours just lacked an actually built up, well done atmosphere.

[QUOTE=Hakita;39972084]Too bad your "atmosphere" is barely any at all. I enjoy good ambient and drone music, I do happen to know what ambiance and subtlety is, yours just lacked an actually built up, well done atmosphere.[/QUOTE] so now atmosphere requires a build up. life does not have a build up. this song is about life (and death)

[QUOTE=twofish;39972121]so now atmosphere requires a build up. life does not have a build up. this song is about life (and death)[/QUOTE] Life [I]does[/I] have build up. You don't suddenly appear and begin living.

i thought it was about drowning?

[QUOTE=AK'z;39972162]i thought it was about drowning?[/QUOTE] drowning in sadness and complexity... [QUOTE=Hakita;39972158]Life [I]does[/I] have build up. You don't suddenly appear and begin living.[/QUOTE] yes you do. you are born and you start thinking about stuff. you should stop posting in this thread, the song is clearly too deep for you

[QUOTE=twofish;39972227]drowning in sadness and complexity...[/QUOTE] I thought your song was about simplicity? [QUOTE=twofish;39972227]yes you do. you are born and you start thinking about stuff. you should stop posting in this thread, the song is clearly too deep for you[/QUOTE] There are these things called fetuses. They slowly grow up and become people. That's the build up to life.

let this thread die please oh my god

[QUOTE=RoadOfGirl;39972287]let this thread die please oh my god[/QUOTE] Good idea.

[QUOTE=Hakita;39972281]I thought your song was about simplicity? There are these things called fetuses. They slowly grow up and become people. That's the build up to life.[/QUOTE] um, you clearly take things a bit too literally. if i was to make a song about growing up, maybe i would have said something about it being about growing up.

I don't think it's bad, but it's incredibly pretentious. Being vague doesn't make you 'deep'.

simultaneously the worst and also most hilarious thread on facepunch

[QUOTE=Drasnus;39972811]I don't think it's bad, but it's incredibly pretentious. Being vague doesn't make you 'deep'.[/QUOTE] pretentious implies that its not as meaningful as i say it is, i assure you it is.

[QUOTE=twofish;39973144]pretentious implies that its not as meaningful as i say it is, i assure you it is.[/QUOTE] pretentious implies its worth much less than you think it is. which it is. its an uninteresting, unsophisitcated, pseudo-heady piece of music that is really not as hot as you're making it seem. Nothing you're trying to say in this hasn't already been said in a more interesting way.

imo you're all wrong including the op the song is meant to make you feel like you're drowning while others laugh and cry and can't be arsed to save you. it's so rich in depth and emotion, it made me feel both happy and sad. this really is life-affirming. u should all be ashamed.

[QUOTE=twofish;39972040] art is not subjective. [/QUOTE] yes it is, you even say it [quote]it is pertaining to [...] an individual[/quote] that is the definition of subjective.