The Addicts' Lounge IV - fast times at Ridgemont, high - General

[QUOTE=PredGD;53001810]none at all. my bet is that they're assuming it was MDMA since their son probably thought he took MDMA. I'm thinking it must be something else that mimics the effects of MDMA but is more dangerous. I too have read stories of heavy abuse and MDMA binges and rarely do I ever hear about anyone dying from that. worst case scenario, they fuck up their brain[/QUOTE] My guess would be 25i-NBOMe, as it has killed a few people with seizures and stuff. It is more akin to MDA or 2C-B than MDMA, but they're close *enough* that many noobs confuse them.

[QUOTE=Dan The Man;53001805]Is there actually proof MDMA did it? MDMA very rarely kills people. I have even read a few cases of people accidentally taking about 1.5 grams of it, when a normal dose is about 200mg, and surviving fine.[/QUOTE] Hold up, 200mg is an average dose of MDMA? I usually only take 100-150mg, 200 for big events.

[QUOTE=The Aussie;53001960]Hold up, 200mg is an average dose of MDMA? I usually only take 100-150mg, 200 for big events.[/QUOTE] 200 is considered a strong dose, but 250mg (Erowid's highest recommended) would be what I would take for a really fun time. It depends on the person though.

[QUOTE=Dan The Man;53001996]200 is considered a strong dose, but 250mg (Erowid's highest recommended) would be what I would take for a really fun time. It depends on the person though.[/QUOTE] Fair enough, I usually just end up feeling too fucking fried the next day to take 150+ most of the time. Just picked up some poppy seeds, I'm keen to make a nice relaxing tea tonight. I smoke way to much fucking weed on opiates though, since it suppresses the ever loving fuck out of your cough reflexes. When it's easy to smoke twice as much as you regularly do you tend to go through mix pretty fucking fast.

[QUOTE=The Aussie;53002074]Fair enough, I usually just end up feeling too fucking fried the next day to take 150+ most of the time. Just picked up some poppy seeds, I'm keen to make a nice relaxing tea tonight. I smoke way to much fucking weed on opiates though, since it suppresses the ever loving fuck out of your cough reflexes. When it's easy to smoke twice as much as you regularly do you tend to go through mix pretty fucking fast.[/QUOTE] The worst part about opioid withdrawal for me is that I begin coughing so much that I keep vomiting, even if I have only had water. It's not that I feel sick, it is literally that I just cough so fucking much! Have a good time though! I really enjoy taking, say, 200mg of MD, and then another 150mg booster 3 hours later. nom nom nom I want some Mandy.

all i got left for xmas is cbd oil and alcohol, not even some kief or hash. socializing is gonna fucking suuuuuck

[QUOTE=TheDrunkenOne;53002247]all i got left for xmas is cbd oil and alcohol, not even some kief or hash. socializing is gonna fucking suuuuuck[/QUOTE] Literally never understood this mentality, lmao. The last thing I want to do on weed is socialize

[QUOTE=thejjokerr;53000986]Yeah ofc responsible use of substances can be quite fun, though looking online I can see a lot of people that took a-PVP that are not recommending anyone trying it because of it's very addictive high. Anyone here have experience?[/QUOTE] I've done a fair amount of a-PVP in the past. Nasty shit, even as far as pyros and cathinones go. The only stimulant I've ever had cause psychosis in a single dose. The high itself is only "reasonably" addictive for how euphoric it is, less addictive than coke or similar - but while on it there's the typical compulsive redose effect that cathinones have. Anyone here who's tried Hexen or Mephedrone will be familiar with it, just a lot worse. For me, I very quickly learnt that once taking it, however much I had readily available would be gone, zero chance of limiting myself or anything. So it's incredibly easy to go through risky amounts. I also would never recommend people try it. I mean - it's incredibly hard to find now since it was banned in China, hence why "Flakka" has now ended up meaning any number of nasty pyros or cathinones. If you want a potent stimulant, a-PHP is the newer, improved version - almost as good high, less vasoconstriction, lower psychosis risk etc. Hell, even Meth is better than a-PVP. [editline]24th December 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;53000952]shit like that is why i would never buy any RC off the street, especially if they gave it some stupid nickname. i much prefer just discussing them in their straight chemical name so all parties involved know precisely what is being discussed.[/QUOTE] Definitely good advice. I would generally advise that [i]if[/i] you're going to buy RCs, you go to a specialised lab in a place they're legal. That's the only safe source, really. [editline]24th December 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=AgentBoomstick;53002278]Literally never understood this mentality, lmao. The last thing I want to do on weed is socialize[/QUOTE] Sativa vs Indica? although to be fair, just personal reactions to drugs could cause that

[QUOTE=Dan The Man;53002188]The worst part about opioid withdrawal for me is that I begin coughing so much that I keep vomiting, even if I have only had water. It's not that I feel sick, it is literally that I just cough so fucking much! Have a good time though! I really enjoy taking, say, 200mg of MD, and then another 150mg booster 3 hours later. nom nom nom I want some Mandy.[/QUOTE] Luckily i'm not much of an opiate addict so I haven't had to deal with withdrawal yet. Not that keen on experiencing that either. I quite enjoy taking boosters on MDMA, but I usually only take an 50mg or so. I'm a bit cautious about fucking with my brain chemistry too much to I don't like to take big boosters like that, although I might at something like a festival. My favourite thing to do is drop your first dose, and insufflate about half what you took juuuust when you start to feel the tingles of the one you dropped early, making for a really fucking intense peak. Although the experience doesn't last any longer than usual, maybe a bit shorter, even.

[QUOTE=AgentBoomstick;53002278]Literally never understood this mentality, lmao. The last thing I want to do on weed is socialize[/QUOTE] It varies from person to person and from strain to strain. Sativas make me active and social, indicas are for when I wanna chill.

Eyyy, North Dakota has a ballot petition for signatures regarding recreational marijuana. Was one of the first to sign it as soon as the courthouse approved it.

[QUOTE=TheDrunkenOne;53002247]all i got left for xmas is cbd oil and alcohol, not even some kief or hash. socializing is gonna fucking suuuuuck[/QUOTE] same

[QUOTE=Dan The Man;53001996]200 is considered a strong dose, but 250mg (Erowid's highest recommended) would be what I would take for a really fun time. It depends on the person though.[/QUOTE] I know people who will sometimes exceed 500mg when they take MDMA, or more even.

[QUOTE=Crooky14;53002592]I know people who will sometimes exceed 500mg when they take MDMA, or more even.[/QUOTE] Sadly there are people taking it regularly enough to get that level of tolerance, but it's definitely not a healthy dose. MDMA gets abused to fuck here in the UK.

[QUOTE=Dan The Man;53001816]My guess would be 25i-NBOMe, as it has killed a few people with seizures and stuff. It is more akin to MDA or 2C-B than MDMA, but they're close *enough* that many noobs confuse them.[/QUOTE] I doubt it was 25i-NBOMe as anyone who has tried MDMA even once would know it's not MDMA. I've done it a few times and it feels nothing like MDMA. I never really got the comparison. It's stimulating but more in a weird, dirty, psychedelic way with no empathetic effects. I guess it could be but most dealers who would do something like that would probably go for an analogue of MDMA or some kind of cathinone before they decided to use 25i. It's just too psychedelic to pass off as MDMA. It was probably some sketchy MDMA/MDA analogue like Dibutylone or PMA, PMA is still seen occasionally and it is rather deadly as it's an MAOI as well as a monoamine releasing agent and reuptake inhibitor. Hell it could have been a mix of any number of weird drugs. I've even seen pills that have DXM in them.

Merry Ketmas everyone

Just scored a ~100 microgram tab, it's all the person had and I don't know where I'd go to get more. Never tried this stuff before and both me and my gf are pretty sensitive to anything psychoactive. Would it be worthwhile splitting it in half between the two of us?

[QUOTE=Rebi;53005045]Just scored a ~100 microgram tab, it's all the person had and I don't know where I'd go to get more. Never tried this stuff before and both me and my gf are pretty sensitive to anything psychoactive. Would it be worthwhile splitting it in half between the two of us?[/QUOTE] You'll won't get much in terms of an actual trip but you'll get some light visuals & general giddiness. Worthwhile experience for sure.

Cutting down on weed to help with my anxiety/general mental health and getting really vivid dreams, every night is like a two episode series since my first dream wakes me up and influences my second dream when i go back to sleep. It's pretty fun but god damnit I need to sleep

[QUOTE=vladnag;53005278]Cutting down on weed to help with my anxiety/general mental health and getting really vivid dreams, every night is like a two episode series since my first dream wakes me up and influences my second dream when i go back to sleep. It's pretty fun but god damnit I need to sleep[/QUOTE] i have the opposite effect, i need weed to be functional at all. for some reason sativas make me social but indicas give me anxiety which is a no no with couchlock for me

Only 1 and a half beers and im at full anxiety relief, thats crazy

Anyone ever tried snorting Lyrica/Pregabalin? I have a prescription but I've only relied on them occasionally as a sleeping aid and overall anxiety relief and have only taken them orally. I'm getting mixed signals when I do research about the recreational aspect of it, so I thought I'd ask around on here.

Definitely recreational at higher doses but stick to oral since it has ~90% BA.

took some LSD, excited :) I bought a pair of kaleidoscope glasses last week, gonna be fun to try them out on this.

[QUOTE=Raizo;53005410]Anyone ever tried snorting Lyrica/Pregabalin? I have a prescription but I've only relied on them occasionally as a sleeping aid and overall anxiety relief and have only taken them orally. I'm getting mixed signals when I do research about the recreational aspect of it, so I thought I'd ask around on here.[/QUOTE] Honestly, i've only taken it once before so take my advice with a grain of salt, although i have done a fair bit of reading on the subject. The best way to use lyrica recreationally is to mix it with some opiates or benzos. Don't worry about dying from respiratory depression either, the reason Lyrica is become more favored over gabapentin is because it lacks a significant respiratory depression effect. I personally mixed 100mg of it with 5mg of Valium, 10mg of Temazepam, 15mg of dexamphetamine, and 60mg of Codeine and had a great time. I can't recommend mixing opiates and benzos, but since i'm on a CYP4D6 inhibitor, codeine just adds and edge to the experience rather than giving a noticeable affect, although it is potentiated by the presence of the benzos. Other than that, i know that recreational doses of just Lyrica start at 250mg, and users report quite higher senses of body euphoria. You can safely push it quite higher, with strong doses on the psychonaunt wiki being around 800mg. I'd recommend taking it slow and adjusting, and not diving in for 800mg on a first time dose though.

I can get behind this. Thanks for taking your time to type all that out amigo.

[QUOTE=The Aussie;53006517]Honestly, i've only taken it once before so take my advice with a grain of salt, although i have done a fair bit of reading on the subject. The best way to use lyrica recreationally is to mix it with some opiates or benzos. Don't worry about dying from respiratory depression either, the reason Lyrica is become more favored over gabapentin is because it lacks a significant respiratory depression effect. I personally mixed 100mg of it with 5mg of Valium, 10mg of Temazepam, 15mg of dexamphetamine, and 60mg of Codeine and had a great time. I can't recommend mixing opiates and benzos, but since i'm on a CYP4D6 inhibitor, codeine just adds and edge to the experience rather than giving a noticeable affect, although it is potentiated by the presence of the benzos. Other than that, i know that recreational doses of just Lyrica start at 250mg, and users report quite higher senses of body euphoria. You can safely push it quite higher, with strong doses on the psychonaunt wiki being around 800mg. I'd recommend taking it slow and adjusting, and not diving in for 800mg on a first time dose though.[/QUOTE] Why would you mix benzos and exclusively dopaminergic/adrenal amphetamines? I get doing that with an amphetamine like MDMA, because a lot of what makes Mandy great is the serotonin activity, but I take stims for the stimulation, lol. Perhaps you're taking the benzos for the comedown? They work a dream on a stim comedown.

[QUOTE=Dan The Man;53006553]Why would you mix benzos and exclusively dopaminergic/adrenal amphetamines? I get doing that with an amphetamine like MDMA, because a lot of what makes Mandy great is the serotonin activity, but I take stims for the stimulation, lol. Perhaps you're taking the benzos for the comedown? They work a dream on a stim comedown.[/QUOTE] Nope, weirdly enough I was taking stims throughout and i didn't feel like it affected me much. I take 25mg a day for ADHD so i've got a bit of a tolerance. It was more there to up my breathing a little than any effects i was seeking.

3-meo-pcp(10mg smoked) + A-php(20mg smoked (purity not 100%)) + gabapentin( 1 300mg gabapentin pill every 40 minutes) + 3-FEA(100mg orally) + nicotine(nicotine droplets, 1-2mg) + LSD(100mcg) + salvia(small pinches of 40x, enough to get mild body high) Happy holidays. This is the biggest combo yet, and I did do as much research as possible beforehand, and have done various mixes of all of these before. It's intense, yet hardly overwhelming, and I'm tolerant to most of these. It's a very enjoyable, fun, and mind-expanding experience. I hope y'all don't consider it overkill-- I mean, it is, and alone the drugs would be more efficacious, but I wanted to end the year with a bang. I'm in the midst of it and I feel good. Smooth, not at all overwhelming.

think I almost reached a state of ego death for the first time.. wow. all of my senses started to liquefy for the lack of a better term. everything I was hearing got mashed up and turned into this constant humming. my body melted away until I couldn't tell the difference between the very room I was in and myself. then the room itself started coming apart and I could see the very fabric of reality show itself for the first time, always there but hidden from our view due to our 3D perspective of it all. words gave no meaning at all anymore since I had no reality to anchor them to. for a moment there, I was in a completely different world, made up of geometric cubes and points in space for as long as the eye could see. then I heard something outside and snapped out of it. that was absolutely mindblowing and it kinda ruined the trip since I wanted to go back to explore but I wasn't able to get there. just being aware of it made it impossible to return. is there a word for this kind of experience? I always find myself coming back to similar experiences with LSD. never quite as far as this but similar nonetheless.