The Addicts' Lounge IV - fast times at Ridgemont, high - General

any of you tried northern lights? a vendor around here got some of that and I heard its good for anxiety.

found out my tattoo guy grows himself i should ask whats up

time to drop some mdma, woop. good times ahead!

[QUOTE=PredGD;53020691]any of you tried northern lights? a vendor around here got some of that and I heard its good for anxiety.[/QUOTE] yup, pretty couchlock-y

[QUOTE=PredGD;53020756]time to drop some mdma, woop. good times ahead![/QUOTE] Took half an E last night and then another which ended up smacking me right in the face. Spent the early hours of 2018 on a long walk w/ friends staring at the beautiful moon. Good rolling to you!

[QUOTE=Crooky14;53020923]Took half an E last night and then another which ended up smacking me right in the face. Spent the early hours of 2018 on a long walk w/ friends staring at the beautiful moon. Good rolling to you![/QUOTE] sounds like an amazing roll :) for some weird reason I don't feel like I'm getting into the roll itself. I feel like I'm stuck in the come up and its not cool. its been 1.5 hours since I dropped now. wheres my pleasure ;(

[QUOTE=PredGD;53020691]any of you tried northern lights? a vendor around here got some of that and I heard its good for anxiety.[/QUOTE] It's alright, but I wouldn't say its anything special. It is very relaxing, though, being indica-heavy as it is.

[QUOTE=Jrose14;53021058]It's alright, but I wouldn't say its anything special. It is very relaxing, though, being indica-heavy as it is.[/QUOTE] that's a bummer if you ask me. I really like sativas since they don't turn my laziness up to a thousand. dunno if there are a lot of sativa strains out there that help much with anxiety tho. I had super lemon haze at one point and that helped a lot, dunno if it's indica or sativa but I think it's sativa. I got some other strains to pick from but idk, I'm a little concerned. the stuff I've bought the past two times have triggered my GAD hardcore and just made me temporarily quit weed altogether since I'm so worried when I bring my vape out to get high. legalization can't happen faster. being able to have a wider inventory of strains available would be a godsend. I miss having weed that doesn't amplify my anxiety by 100x and instead removes it for the duration of the high. my roll got good as well :)

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[QUOTE=Dan The Man;53021127]snip[/QUOTE] great job, you deserve a pat on the back for kicking that habit! now you just gotta keep it this way and you'll never have to see it again :)

[QUOTE=Dan The Man;53021127]Whoever recommended Phenibut, I really, really hated it, and I love benzos and somewhat like alcohol. It causes pretty severe nystagmus in me and muscle twitching. I understand that the length of onset is partly to blame, but I started pretty low. Ugh. I don't see on what planet something that makes you so drunk you can't even find the mouse cursor for hours "good", but each to their own. That's £150 I won't get back, although that last part is absolutely my fault. Not saying who recommended it is at fault at all, to clarify. In what way is it a nootropic? To me it felt like being drunk pretty much as soon as it kicked in, so I am guessing the dose is lower for theraputic use. I suppose I may have had an overreaction or something, but just to say, I did check dosages on a few places and read about it on Bluelight. Some good news though... I have quit a 200mg Oxycodone habit since Jan 2014 cold turkey about December 15th, and I feel so, so much better for it - holy shit. I know that won't mean anything to most of you, but opioids are tough. I would have tapered, but if I had done that, I would have just gotten high again - it is basically impossible to have any within reach if you want to quit. Unlike most people, I found days 4-6 more of a struggle than 2 and 3: A) I don't really vomit much, hence it being weird that I vomited on Phenibut B) The agitation was fucking infuriating on days 3-9, and I was constantly moving my legs up and down - couldn't stop - it was driving me mad Now actually find I have energy to do stuff again I have no problem with anybody taking opioids, or anything! I just thought I would tell my story. In fact, I think intractable heroin addicts should get heroin injections in clinics if they can't withdraw, as methadone sounds like a travesty. I got hooked because of genuinely SEVERE neuropathic pain so bad I was literally in tears a lot of the time, but I had been taking it 5 months before that started getting better, and I just fell into it. Common story. PS: Piracetam is a genuinely good nootropic in my opinion, and has no psychoactive effects except remembering things you may not have before and more vivid dreams. Increases blood flow to certain parts of the brain. It was studied on Dyspraxics like myself and it helped me, although it is obviously just treatment, not a cure. :)[/QUOTE] You sure you dosed right and weren't on anything else? Every time I take it I dose 1-1.5g and it's very subtle. I never feel properly "drunk" unless I actually mix it with alcohol (very easy to overdo, not recommended if you're not familiar with your limits)

[QUOTE=PredGD;53020691]any of you tried northern lights? [/QUOTE] Classic strain (probably one of the most famous ever), nice indica feel. Grows fairly well around the UK so quite popular.

Sorry for the long post, but there's lots of random info I am reading and I can't sleep despite 64 hours awake. That is insane, so I will post any of the random shit if it sounds interesting. It is so weird that I didn't feel the high come on, but I guess it was slow and I thought it wore off when I was no longer intoxicated, but tbh, this is a fucking huge post and I have ended it many times, gone to do something else, and come back fairly quick. It makes me mighty obsessive. That's definitely a dopamine thing, right? Anyway, I doubt anyone wants to read all this shite, although if anybody wants to read, they're welcome. Also, the weirdest thing is this random pleasurable muscle spasm when something is really cool or something. So. Fucking. Odd. It does help with anxiety, but it actually keeps me up, the opposite to what many say. I just checked and my scale was fucked. Phenibut, is what I am talking about. I anticipate insane withdrawal, and I already heard that sucks. Have no idea how much it actually was but I am still high. Fuck me... I hadn't used the scale in ages but I don't know what I did to it last time. Must be something trapped or something - no idea. I am so screwed. :( I have kicked opioids for like 18 days though - that is real. Only took Phenibut one night but had enough for the liquid to taste awful, and I can't imagine that happens with low doses. Fuck. I just thought it was fluffy and I haven't had anything for years. I am an anxious person ordinarily too. Fuck. =/ Now I may have to go back on opioids to help, but I don't really wanna do that. Haven't taken any for easily long enough to be over the worst of that now. Oh dear. I have made a school boy error. I guess you can't plan for everything. Any advice on withdrawal? I don't really like alcohol much, so that kinda works for me, if it will help at all. If I throw up the next day, who cares. but it would have to be Wednesday morning. [b]Update: No CNS depressants at all[/b] I have read some more, and apparently withdrawal doesn't increase THAT fast. Still, holy shit, I could have killed myself if that was something else. At most I had about 12 grams in two doses and that's it, might try a theraputic dose tomorrow when it has worn off. I can't believe a drug can last this long. I have bought two new scales for trying out new drugs, lol. It was just a few years old, but it had sentimental value - in the bin now. Still imagine I will feel somewhat weird tomorrow. I should really sleep. Been up a stupid amount of time. It has not worn out yet so I am pretty freaked out still, but wish me luck. Read about a guy who was taking 150GRAMS a day, and had reduced down to 50G at about 1G a day and is hearing screaming and shit. Holy shit what the fuck. I have been up since about 12 the day BEFORE yesterday, but I can't sleep because my body won't let me. I hope my heart doesn't die from sheer exhaustion. I can't believe this wasn't banned. I am both very happy and sad about this though, 'cuz I really don't want to generate a habit. I did come off of a 14 a week lorazepam addiction of 4 years surprisingly well, tapering down first to 7, then half every month, which is weird, considering I am a pretty anxious person, especially around people. Anyway, will see if I can hold off today, if not, I may have to throw it out. Keen to see if the theraputic bonus helps with playing piano when my muscles aren't still randomly spasming a bit, although it is not as serious as the night before last. Worried I will get stimulant psychosis if this is dopaminergic and morning arrives. Oh well, let's see. I wish I had an opioid just to sleep. This cannot be healthy to talk about anymore. I am just scaring myself. Hopefully I can sleep the worst of the shock off, but I highly doubt that. Anyway, reading stories about people on this stuff with psychosis is just gonna give me it either way, so I'm signing off (I said that, but came back many times. What the fuck.) . Was gonna play Prey but don't really fancy it now, as I know I am gonna feel super anxious tomorrow probably. What I said about 12 grams overall once apparently is not accurate. I need to sleep soon though, or I may get psychosis, and that shit is not my cup of tea. [b]One thing I will say though, something that's very interesting[/b], is that literally nobody's experiences seem to match with one another. It's like a passenger consciousness or something (not serious, although CGPGrey did a video on left and right brains, although I obviously don't think that's what it is.) Seriously, reading all the reports of both the withdrawal and the high, I have heard that both cause anxiety and both cause sleepiness, and both can cause depression. Some get hyper, some sit quietly. It's really fucking interesting. I wish we knew exactly how it was doing this. It's not as simple as just that's their way, because some people who are anxious get more anxious on it, and others who aren't anxious get anxious, etc. It's all so bizarre. Okay, it is finally starting to wear off. That 2 hours went extraordinarily slowly but quick. I cannot explain it. I think a Black Mirror about a head implant where people could be permanently in a certain drug state would be kind of interesting though. I need to be up at 12 tomorrow, but from what I understand, if the worst comes to the worst, I can use Kratom. I don't plan to continue using it but I consider that disgusting enough that I could never take it every day, or even every other day, and it is only pleasant the first two days. My god. Please read this list of Adverse Events from Reddit if you like: [url]https://www.reddit.com/r/phenibut/comments/6l2m67/phenibut_serious_adverse_events_list/[/url] So many people on that Reddit are drinking the Kool Aid like Candy. I am pretty scared for them based on what I have read. 150grams a day for that guy was not a typo, btw. I don't know how that's possible, but it seemed really legit to me. I understand the GABA agonism is one of the big reasons for increased anxiety. Lots of 20grammers and stuff on there though. Hm. Ciao. PS: Sorry for mistakes with grammar and such things. May try a theraputic dose day after next and try some programming. Rate box pl0x

seriously reconsidering my choice to drop dck completely. i am just so much slower without it, i feel like my mind and mood is in molasses comparatively. i'm going back to my depressive state, where i feel like i don't have any possibilities. if i were to go about it again, i would have to create a schedule and stick by it, but i genuinely believe that moderated usage is a boon to me. the daily usage was fucked, i fully admit that, but there was real therapeutic effects to it.

Is vaping nicotine helpful with quitting the cancer sticks? I'm trying to mark 31st Dec 2017 as my last day of smoking but nicotine generally lures me back into it. Two days in its alright but I know from previous attempts that 3,4 and 5 are the worst for me.

[QUOTE=bs8814;53022413]Is vaping nicotine helpful with quitting the cancer sticks? I'm trying to mark 31st Dec 2017 as my last day of smoking but nicotine generally lures me back into it. Two days in its alright but I know from previous attempts that 3,4 and 5 are the worst for me.[/QUOTE] yup. I wasn't able to fully quit cigs until my SO introduced me to vaping. as soon as I got my own vape, I stopped smoking altogether. I still smoke occasionally but only when I'm out of juice with nicotine.

Well, I still haven't slept, but a few things... 1)I managed to really upset my mum. :( I told her I quit opioids finally at the wrong time (she [i]seemed[/i] extremely dismissive). She had seen my mail from the RC website about Phenibut on boxing day and didn't mention it (class act, to be fair), and I interpreted what she was saying really badly because it was, from my perspective, like she was taking the piss. I feel pretty bad about it all now though. I had a big mephedrone problem when I was younger and at uni, and was a massive cunt, but I think I will see if it can be used maybe once per week at sub-fun doses and if that is noticeable in terms of intellect stuffs. Not sure how GABA helps with that last bit, which it won't, presumably. 2)I imagine people can only get to sleep on this at the beginning, right? 3)It seems the addiction and insane doses comes from people caning it on the GABA side, but I am not really interested much in that, and can't see myself going above a theraputic dose, although might try programming one day or something (or gaming) on a fun dose from time to time if I don't start developing a problem. 4)Nobody seems to agree on why this affects people so wildly differently. It's so bizarre. 5)It just sorta... stopped. There wasn't some sudden crash. Is that true for anyone else? Surely there is some cost? Do DRIs typically cause a harsh comedown? Never tried one really. That is all. Sorry for the word salad earlier, hah. I didn't realise there were still things like this hanging about. Ciao. [editline]2nd January 2018[/editline] [QUOTE=PredGD;53022417]yup. I wasn't able to fully quit cigs until my SO introduced me to vaping. as soon as I got my own vape, I stopped smoking altogether. I still smoke occasionally but only when I'm out of juice with nicotine.[/QUOTE] My friend just bought me the vaporiser I need. Should be coming today. Quite exciting!

[QUOTE=bs8814;53022413]Is vaping nicotine helpful with quitting the cancer sticks? I'm trying to mark 31st Dec 2017 as my last day of smoking but nicotine generally lures me back into it. Two days in its alright but I know from previous attempts that 3,4 and 5 are the worst for me.[/QUOTE] nicotine juice tastes like ass, you might wanna mix it up with something else but yeah, it works.

[QUOTE=TheDrunkenOne;53022434]nicotine juice tastes like ass, you might wanna mix it up with something else but yeah, it works.[/QUOTE] Any good ones to recommend? My mate has been vaping for a few years now and he says he is a lot fitter too.

72 hours awake now. My brain must be fried but I am still functioning somehow. I am gonna feel so terrible tomorrow, or whenever. I have a question... does the GABA effect run out soon after the stimulation? Stimulation has been gone for about 6 hours. Sorry to bother you all with this. I really hope I won't have to taper down from one dose... =/ Sorry for double post. I thought they would automerge.

Withdrawing from xan gave me a grand mal seizure. i seem to have forgotten near enough everything over the past 3 years, maybe longer? feel like i am going insane, can barely sleep. wake up at least 5 times a night, god this is horrible dr prescribed me 2mg valium to 'help'. i have been taking at [B]least[/B] 10mg of xanax a day and if i have to go out i take about 20mg how the fuck is 2mg of valium going to help me??? i feel like im losing my mind

[QUOTE=joshthesmith;53022628]Withdrawing from xan gave me a grand mal seizure. i seem to have forgotten near enough everything over the past 3 years, maybe longer? feel like i am going insane, can barely sleep. wake up at least 5 times a night, god this is horrible dr prescribed me 2mg valium to 'help'. i have been taking at [B]least[/B] 10mg of xanax a day and if i have to go out i take about 20mg how the fuck is 2mg of valium going to help me??? i feel like im losing my mind[/QUOTE] Oh fuck man. I'm so sorry to hear that. Xanax should never be prescribed for anxiety disorders unless short term or for rare panic attacks. It is the hardest drug class I know of to withdraw from. A tapering strategy technically exists, but it would have to be very granular and slow. Have you spoken to a doctor about a very slow tapering strategy? [b]Just to say some more...[/b] if you had a grand mal seizure, then assuming you live in a country with socialised medicine, can you go to the hospital? If you had a grand mal there, I don't know what they'd do, but please, please do not increase the dosage. It can be done - reducing dosages. I found the beginning harder, although it was more getting used to it and stuff. I don't know how somebody can be expected to live like this, so if you are at risk of grand mal, I don't know if medical comas would work. I have no knowledge about that sort of thing, but if you are constantly struggling, you should really find out first about a very very slow tapering schedule. If you are in a country without socialised medicine, doctors are obliged to treat you here in the UK with not even an ID. [b]Remember. Don't, please don't increase the dose. Not ever.[/b] Erowid.org will have stories of people who withdrew from this most likely, some are probably on higher, but it takes a very long time to adjust from daily behaviour on GABA sites from what I understand. Sorry that I could not be more help to you. Best of luck. <3 Well, based on my research, even though I basically had it once, and the stimulation only lasted 36 hours, I think I am gonna have this withdrawal for ages, based on quite a few reports. Don't know if I can cope. Have been up since Midday Saturday and it is now 3:20pm Tuesday. What the actual fuck. I feel totally wired. I don't really know what to do.

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;53022399]seriously reconsidering my choice to drop dck completely. i am just so much slower without it, i feel like my mind and mood is in molasses comparatively. i'm going back to my depressive state, where i feel like i don't have any possibilities. if i were to go about it again, i would have to create a schedule and stick by it, but i genuinely believe that moderated usage is a boon to me. the daily usage was fucked, i fully admit that, but there was real therapeutic effects to it.[/QUOTE] Tread lightly. Ask yourself if you really need it, is any perceived "benefit" given by DCK use worth the suffering you've been through? Do you want to go through withdrawal again? Do you want those bladder issues again? You're gonna have to ask yourself those questions and get an honest answer. I can't speak for you, maybe there really IS a need in your life that DCK fills, but from my perspective, this sounds a little like you're bargaining with your addiction. Whatever you decide, I think that waiting for a few more weeks is your best option. Maybe this is just a rough patch, and in a few weeks life will seem a lot less pressing.

I've been thinking about my roll yesterday because of how underwhelming it was. I clearly felt the effects but compared to for example my first few times with MDMA, it was nothing. kinda worried that I might have broken something related to my serotonin due to my use but I don't know. I decided to look through my posts and local notes to map my usage and it seems okay, except for twice where I didn't wait at least 6 weeks. I only mapped from 6th december 2016 to now since I can't find any posts or notes from 2016 [quote]2016 6th december - redose -- 6 months and 10 days -- 2017 16th june - no redose -- 6 weeks and 2 days -- 30th july - no redose -- 2 weeks -- 13th august - no redose -- 7 weeks and 6 days -- 7th october - no redose -- 7 weeks and 4 days -- 29th november - redose + LSD -- 4 weeks and 5 days -- 2018 1st january - redose[/quote] so that brings me to 7 rolls total since the end of 2016 to the start of 2018. am I doing MDMA too often or shouldn't this be a problem? I'm aware that 2 weeks and 4 weeks isn't optimal but those two are the only times where I've messed up.

Well, based on my research, even though I basically had it once, and the stimulation only lasted 36 hours, I think I am gonna have this withdrawal for ages, based on quite a few reports. Don't know if I can cope. Have been up since Midday Saturday and it is now 3:20pm Tuesday. What the actual fuck. I feel totally wired. I don't really know what to do. 2 weeks for mild habituation, but if you have a massive dose and stop cold turkey, even if only one dose, it can be devastating. I may have to go to the doctors tomorrow and pick up the opioids again so I can get to sleep. So annoying. I have alcohol coming with my delivery of food tomorrow, and have gone from hungry to completely full now. That's the first symptom. Not really anxious yet, although there's an otherworldly feel to everything.

[QUOTE=Dan The Man;53022699]Oh fuck man. I'm so sorry to hear that. Xanax should never be prescribed for anxiety disorders unless short term or for rare panic attacks. It is the hardest drug class I know of to withdraw from. A tapering strategy technically exists, but it would have to be very granular and slow. Have you spoken to a doctor about a very slow tapering strategy? [b]Just to say some more...[/b] if you had a grand mal seizure, then assuming you live in a country with socialised medicine, can you go to the hospital? If you had a grand mal there, I don't know what they'd do, but please, please do not increase the dosage. It can be done - reducing dosages. I found the beginning harder, although it was more getting used to it and stuff. I don't know how somebody can be expected to live like this, so if you are at risk of grand mal, I don't know if medical comas would work. I have no knowledge about that sort of thing, but if you are constantly struggling, you should really find out first about a very very slow tapering schedule. If you are in a country without socialised medicine, doctors are obliged to treat you here in the UK with not even an ID. [b]Remember. Don't, please don't increase the dose. Not ever.[/b] Erowid.org will have stories of people who withdrew from this most likely, some are probably on higher, but it takes a very long time to adjust from daily behaviour on GABA sites from what I understand. Sorry that I could not be more help to you. Best of luck. <3 Well, based on my research, even though I basically had it once, and the stimulation only lasted 36 hours, I think I am gonna have this withdrawal for ages, based on quite a few reports. Don't know if I can cope. Have been up since Midday Saturday and it is now 3:20pm Tuesday. What the actual fuck. I feel totally wired. I don't really know what to do.[/QUOTE] One of the doctors in my nearby local hospital called me stupid and said he would not give me anything because he said "you will just end up selling it for alcohol or something" not even kidding, my fiance was there with me. I mentioned that I was depressed to him, since he kept literally asking me what I was here for and my original answer was "well I need help", his response was something like if you want to go and get run over by a bus then go right ahead to which I responded if he felt morally right saying that to me, so he scoffed. There was so much that he said but you honestly would have had to be there to believe it, he even kicked my fiance out the room for standing up for me. I ended up taking Xanax again anyway. Dosage has severely decreased compared to what I used to take, I am taking roughly ~2mg a day. Sucks but I want off the shit. Looks like I am on my own though, Dr's aren't worth anything up here where I live. All look at me like I am some kind of lost cause/junkie/alcoholic. Judgemental as hell. Trust me when I say that doesn't help with depression and anxiety. Hell that Dr (who I have stopped going to now) pointed out that I had depressive psychosis whilst smiling as if he was happy or winning against me? I don't know. I feel like there is no help out there for me other than helping myself. Bought some valium off the net to help me come off 10mg's though, will just end up tapering off of that. When I had the Grand Mal I didn't know how serious it was and neither did my fiance so we just went to the GP rather than phone an ambulance, one of the better Dr's there did say that an ambulance should have been called and said if it ever happens again that is the first thing my fiance has to do, phone 999 Thank you for your kind words, means a lot

[QUOTE=joshthesmith;53023207]One of the doctors in my nearby local hospital called me stupid and said he would not give me anything because he said "you will just end up selling it for alcohol or something" not even kidding, my fiance was there with me. I mentioned that I was depressed to him, since he kept literally asking me what I was here for and my original answer was "well I need help", his response was something like if you want to go and get run over by a bus then go right ahead to which I responded if he felt morally right saying that to me, so he scoffed. There was so much that he said but you honestly would have had to be there to believe it, he even kicked my fiance out the room for standing up for me. I ended up taking Xanax again anyway. Dosage has severely decreased compared to what I used to take, I am taking roughly ~2mg a day. Sucks but I want off the shit. Looks like I am on my own though, Dr's aren't worth anything up here where I live. All look at me like I am some kind of lost cause/junkie/alcoholic. Judgemental as hell. Trust me when I say that doesn't help with depression and anxiety. Hell that Dr (who I have stopped going to now) pointed out that I had depressive psychosis whilst smiling as if he was happy or winning against me? I don't know. I feel like there is no help out there for me other than helping myself. Bought some valium off the net to help me come off 10mg's though, will just end up tapering off of that. When I had the Grand Mal I didn't know how serious it was and neither did my fiance so we just went to the GP rather than phone an ambulance, one of the better Dr's there did say that an ambulance should have been called and said if it ever happens again that is the first thing my fiance has to do, phone 999 Thank you for your kind words, means a lot[/QUOTE] how can doctors be like that to their patients, like what? you're literally there to ask for help, and that's the response you get? while I don't agree with the fucked up view a lot of people have on drugs I can kinda understand where they're coming from, but what I don't understand is having that attitude towards someone who is trying to get off of it. doctors who act like that shouldn't have their jobs. they shouldn't let personal opinions get in the way of helping patients, like seriously. I'm so sorry you have to go through shit like that. you can do this, with or without those guys. just gotta keep a consistent dosing schedule and slowly decrease your doses. I'm rooting for you dude [editline]2nd January 2018[/editline] in other news, I'm surprised at how long my homemade hash has lasted. I'm still vaping it and getting high from it, potent little ball

[QUOTE=PredGD;53023350]h I'm so sorry you have to go through shit like that. you can do this, with or without those guys. just gotta keep a consistent dosing schedule and slowly decrease your doses. I'm rooting for you dude [/QUOTE] I had 2 seizures withdrawing from xanax and they flat out refused to prescribe even Valium. NHS pressure to not prescribe benzos is is way overdone. [editline]2nd January 2018[/editline] Two seizures [i]while in hospital[/i] under observation despite them knowing the exact dosages I had been taking, and that I would be having serious W/Ds.

Wow and here i was complaining about caffeine addiction Sorry you guys had to go through that shit. From what ive steadily learned, GABA related withdrawals always seem to be the worst type of withdrawals

[QUOTE=SataniX;53023447]I had 2 seizures withdrawing from xanax and they flat out refused to prescribe even Valium. NHS pressure to not prescribe benzos is is way overdone. [editline]2nd January 2018[/editline] Two seizures [i]while in hospital[/i] under observation despite them knowing the exact dosages I had been taking, and that I would be having serious W/Ds.[/QUOTE] I'm really sorry to hear that, but also it has kinda put that entire visit into perspective for me. I guess I will just have to do it myself as planned, definitely not going to hospital if I am going to be stuck there having seizures like that. Absolutely horrendous. Hope you are well now