The Addicts' Lounge IV - fast times at Ridgemont, high - General

[QUOTE=Wealth + Taste;53022760]Tread lightly. Ask yourself if you really need it, is any perceived "benefit" given by DCK use worth the suffering you've been through? Do you want to go through withdrawal again? Do you want those bladder issues again? You're gonna have to ask yourself those questions and get an honest answer. I can't speak for you, maybe there really IS a need in your life that DCK fills, but from my perspective, this sounds a little like you're bargaining with your addiction. Whatever you decide, I think that waiting for a few more weeks is your best option. Maybe this is just a rough patch, and in a few weeks life will seem a lot less pressing.[/QUOTE] thanks, it is good to get some outside perspective. it isn't so much DCK exactly as it is most dissociatives in general. i'll stick it out longer, which shouldn't be too hard as my plug is out for a while longer.

sup DD, long ass time took a pill yesterday with my girlfriend, for me it was for old time's sake, like first time in about three years, also because she's just recently started experimenting with them a bit so wanted to have at least one experience with her didn't have the best of times... Come up felt pretty nauseating, body effects felt akin to a low dose of shrooms, like my body felt really weak and my stomach felt weird Didn't get the full loved up effect but I did feel pretty open emotionally (more so after a beer, about 5 hours in) mentally just felt kinda blunted, slowed down and relaxed, which is typical of an MDxx experience for me, but didn't feel very 'rolly' even with music going, though I did enjoy dancing with her a fair bit and very into it which was nice, had some eye wiggles, hardly any bruxism today I woke up feeling absolutely fucked though, like basically hungover, the aftermath was significantly out of proportion to the intensity of effects I had while on it.. i've had diarrhoea throughout the day, farts are absolutely terrible, broke down a bit emotionally and ended up crying a fair bit never had this kinda effect from pills before physically, especially afterwords. Usually I have a very clean body experience, more of a euphoria state, significantly more bruxism and heightened sensitivity to colours and stuff like that.. But mentally it felt kind of on par thought-process wise and headspace wise, just a little bit /less/ than the norm (again, beer opened me up more fully and we had some good deep convos) she on the other hand plateaued very early and started feeling pretty much sober about 4 hours in, seemed okayish this morning but also felt hungover We were both a bit disappointed/underwhelmed. In hindsight we should have run them through a test kit but ah well... Maybe I'm just getting too old for this shit.. but it defs has me like yeah I'll probs never do em again, or at least, not any time in the foreseeable future Unrelated note, it's been nearly a year now since i've touched any amphetamine or methylphenidate. Life goes on pretty alright since I got off all that

[QUOTE=Inzal;53024251]sup DD, long ass time took a pill yesterday with my girlfriend, for me it was for old time's sake, like first time in about three years, also because she's just recently started experimenting with them a bit so wanted to have at least one experience with her didn't have the best of times... Come up felt pretty nauseating, body effects felt akin to a low dose of shrooms, like my body felt really weak and my stomach felt weird Didn't get the full loved up effect but I did feel pretty open emotionally (more so after a beer, about 5 hours in) mentally just felt kinda blunted, slowed down and relaxed, which is typical of an MDxx experience for me, but didn't feel very 'rolly' even with music going, though I did enjoy dancing with her a fair bit and very into it which was nice, had some eye wiggles, hardly any bruxism today I woke up feeling absolutely fucked though, like basically hungover, the aftermath was significantly out of proportion to the intensity of effects I had while on it.. i've had diarrhoea throughout the day, farts are absolutely terrible, broke down a bit emotionally and ended up crying a fair bit never had this kinda effect from pills before physically, especially afterwords. Usually I have a very clean body experience, more of a euphoria state, significantly more bruxism and heightened sensitivity to colours and stuff like that.. But mentally it felt kind of on par thought-process wise and headspace wise, just a little bit /less/ than the norm (again, beer opened me up more fully and we had some good deep convos) she on the other hand plateaued very early and started feeling pretty much sober about 4 hours in, seemed okayish this morning but also felt hungover We were both a bit disappointed/underwhelmed. In hindsight we should have run them through a test kit but ah well... Maybe I'm just getting too old for this shit.. but it defs has me like yeah I'll probs never do em again, or at least, not any time in the foreseeable future Unrelated note, it's been nearly a year now since i've touched any amphetamine or methylphenidate. Life goes on pretty alright since I got off all that[/QUOTE] I know there was a debate about 20 pages about that between a few us, with me advocating for larger crystals rather than pills, and someone else arguing for pills being better. I can't say for sure, as I have no data, but if somebody gives you something with larger crystals, not just powder, I would be inclined to expect it to have a higher likelihood of being MDMA. Update on me. I am still wired, and I only managed to get an hour sleep this morning by having a tiny amount of the powder, because it basically seems impossible, from all the similar reports I have read, to just dump this stuff cold turkey without being ready to end your life, if you are already a depressed and anxious person like me. I don't much fancy that, but at the same time, I am almost considering ending my life just in case somebody found out and forced me to deal with this using nothing (not exaggerating - I am terrified about this possibility.) 1 hour sleep between Midday Saturday to Midday Wednesday is insane, and I would never have even got that without. As to what that person said about the NHS not being happy providing benzos. No, they aren't at all, but I am so fucking glad. Would you rather that they prescribed them like candy? The US is so notorious for it that ambien and Xanax come up in so many films. It is so sad and preventable. It is also a clear indicator of how profit poisons healthcare. By the way, the doctor who spoke to you like that is a *disgrace*. I am not saying the UK has the best healthcare ever or something (although it won the overall prize last year, with all the other developed nations fairly close by and US in last place). My point is that the doctors are supposed to learn the Hippocratic oath. I mean, when I have been in hospital for dumb reasons, they have always had the most kindness and compassion for me here. I know our culture is not renowned for that, but honestly, I have always been mighty impressed with how friendly the nurses and doctors can be here. I was prescribed lorazepam at an NHS hospital called St. Mary's. It's funny - I had a brain haemmorrhage from physical trauma, and thought I was going mad, which I kinda was, with the same room looking totally different each hour and me thinking the doctors were trying to kill me. I kept shouting for them to give me Haliperidol or an antipsychotic because I was going mad, and they gave me lorazepam. Lesson... learnt? :P [editline]3rd January 2018[/editline] [img]https://imgur.com/a/o9Z2A[/img] This is what my life has come to in order to gain enjoyment:

Wow. I didn't know you could hemorrhage your brain from a seizure that is worrying actually. Mind you, I don't know much about coming off anything since i have never tried before! I live up shit creek in a town called Invergordon, my nearest 'real' hospital is at Raigmore in Inverness. They take you up there then you need to shell out 50-60 quid on a taxi home, honestly it isn't economically feasible for me to go up there anyway. I agree, I was outraged by the Dr but I didn't let him get away too easily. I noticed he was drinking a tin of "lemonade soda", along with a few more tins just sat on his desk. Considering he was insulting me and considering he was already overweight, I said to him that isn't very healthy for you, pointing towards his stomach and making an overweight gesture with my other hand. He tried to one up me by saying it is sugar free so I burst out laughing and explained what Aspartame was and why it is also bad. I didn't just sit there and take his bullshit but it took me at least 10 insults from himself for me to think [U]fuck this[/U] I am not just gonna sit here and be insulted. After that we threw insults back and forward at each other, completely pointless I know, then he tells me I am making his blood pressure rise.. For standing up for myself? Okay m8. At the end of the session he said to me that I had better go see me girlfriend (which he kicked out earlier because she was standing up for me) because she will think we are throwing fists at each other(?) so I went to the door with a good old "Thanks for nothing!" and slammed the fucker shut. I spoke to my mum over the phone about him and she told me a little story about him which she heard from a friend, an overweight woman who my mum used to know very well went in and complained about having a sore back, that same exact doctor told her "Maybe if you weren't so fat you wouldn't be in pain" that was that she walked out mortified. NHS Scotland yay... Update on me: My valium arrived, put one under the tongue and waited for the taste and for the val to dissolve. No taste, broke apart fairly quick and was kind of like eating chalk :( Waste of money I think, that's what I get for ordering from someone i never order from tho huh. Sucks tho cause I wanted to taper with them, sent him a message explaining my situation so here's hoping for a bloody good explanation or at best a refund

[QUOTE=joshthesmith;53023494]I'm really sorry to hear that, but also it has kinda put that entire visit into perspective for me. I guess I will just have to do it myself as planned, definitely not going to hospital if I am going to be stuck there having seizures like that. Absolutely horrendous. Hope you are well now[/QUOTE] Noooo, not what I meant at all. They'll flat out refuse to prescribe any benzos in most cases but I'd be dead if I wasn't in hospital when I had those seizures.

[QUOTE=SataniX;53024565]Noooo, not what I meant at all. They'll flat out refuse to prescribe any benzos in most cases but I'd be dead if I wasn't in hospital when I had those seizures.[/QUOTE] What did they do to make you feel more comfortable if you don't mind me asking, I know how awful a seizure is so I have no idea how they would treat a person in such a case without the use of benzo's

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[QUOTE=joshthesmith;53024809]What did they do to make you feel more comfortable if you don't mind me asking, I know how awful a seizure is so I have no idea how they would treat a person in such a case without the use of benzo's[/QUOTE] Uh well they kept me breathing. That's gotta count for something. Otherwise I was pretty out of it; you don't actually remember anything. It was a weird as fuck feeling though. Could only move my eyes for ~10 seconds then just [i]fell[/i]. If I'd been out and about or something I'd probably have smashed my head in. Came to maybe 15 minutes later without the slightest clue anything had happened. Then they kinda got worse (had a few over the course of the night) and I don't remember much. The worst thing was how much my damn wrist hurt the next day from them taking a blood sample with a mahussive needle.

Got around asking my tattoo guy if he can hit me up with some buds that he grows in his garden, but he said no damn and I was so close too, about to just give up altogether bros

[QUOTE=Raizo;53025773]Got around asking my tattoo guy if he can hit me up with some buds that he grows in his garden, but he said no damn and I was so close too, about to just give up altogether bros[/QUOTE] DarkWeb?

Yeah I think I made a mistake by not setting up Tails properly, I did install it as the guide said and it works, but I didn't put it on a VM or anything. The USB is just sitting there. [editline]4th January 2018[/editline] Also I don't even know if I got the Final Tails on my second USB stick for that matter, all I did was "clone and install" from Intermediary to the second drive, does that count?

[QUOTE=Raizo;53026001]Yeah I think I made a mistake by not setting up Tails properly, I did install it as the guide said and it works, but I didn't put it on a VM or anything. The USB is just sitting there. [editline]4th January 2018[/editline] Also I don't even know if I got the Final Tails on my second USB stick for that matter, all I did was "clone and install" from Intermediary to the second drive, does that count?[/QUOTE] Not actually used the dark web yet, although if your country is anything like mine, I doubt they would prosecute you for buying some weed for personal use on there.

wish i had a plug irl, i can't get any weed until tuesday :(

i'd rather have a 30 second transaction and fuck off back home instead of waiting for a package and being paranoid of bad stealth and/or controlled delivery

buying drugs for personal use isn't an issue in most EU countries, so long as it's an acceptable amount [editline]5th January 2018[/editline] this applies for online too

[QUOTE=joshthesmith;53022628]Withdrawing from xan gave me a grand mal seizure. i seem to have forgotten near enough everything over the past 3 years, maybe longer? feel like i am going insane, can barely sleep. wake up at least 5 times a night, god this is horrible dr prescribed me 2mg valium to 'help'. i have been taking at [B]least[/B] 10mg of xanax a day and if i have to go out i take about 20mg how the fuck is 2mg of valium going to help me??? i feel like im losing my mind[/QUOTE] Look up the Ashton Manual, it is [I]the[/I] source for medical knowledge on how to safely taper off of benzodiazepines. It's a medical text so it's not an extremely easy read but it's a good idea to read it to get an idea for how tapering is supposed to work, in case you have to go a route that doesn't involve doctors. Valium is prescribed for tapering usually as it has a very long half-life, but yeah, 2mg won't do much to a 10mg a day Xanax regimen. It will help, but not much. Your doctor sounds like a piece of shit, is there any way you can talk to anyone else about this? If you're at risk of seizures they have to take it seriously and get you started on a proper tapering plan asap. Good luck, man. I kicked benzos in 2016 after having taken Etizolam for most of the year, often in really high doses. Prior to that I had been on and off them three times, once I quit a daily 2+mg Klonopin habit (the amount I took daily varied) cold turkey. Absolutely horrifying, but I didn't know any better at the time. Removing benzos from my life was probably the best decision I've ever made. You can add me on Steam if you want to share experiences or whatever. I never had seizures or anything that severe but I've been around the block a couple times, regrettably.

[QUOTE=TheDrunkenOne;53027391]buying drugs for personal use isn't an issue in most EU countries, so long as it's an acceptable amount [editline]5th January 2018[/editline] this applies for online too[/QUOTE] In Britain, the worst that can happen is a ticket for £80 if you are smoking weed in public. It should not be illegal at all, but still, that's not so bad!

[QUOTE=Dan The Man;53027520]In Britain, the worst that can happen is a ticket for £80 if you are smoking weed in public. It should not be illegal at all, but still, that's not so bad![/QUOTE] As much as I'm a big advocate for legalization I still believe it should be subject to a "hybrid" set of rules that encompass the use of tobacco and alcohol. So don't drive while high, use it in your own private domicile, don't sell without a license etc. I feel like if we made an effort legalized and regulated cannabis for recreational use could become a reality [editline]5th January 2018[/editline] Shit, people are allowed to brew their own beer for personal use, so why not grow their own pot?

I've got to say, the best drug for me at a music festival (excluding MDMA) is good old alcohol. I find taking psychs and going out at a festival tends to wig me out more than anything else. I get annoyed at drunk cunts and i always just feel like i don't want to be tripping around them, you can't really escape it. I prefer psychs in relative solitude compared to 15k people.

[QUOTE=The Aussie;53027570]I've got to say, the best drug for me at a music festival (excluding MDMA) is good old alcohol. I find taking psychs and going out at a festival tends to wig me out more than anything else. I get annoyed at drunk cunts and i always just feel like i don't want to be tripping around them, you can't really escape it. I prefer psychs in relative solitude compared to 15k people.[/QUOTE] Meh, I really would rather have 2C-B than alcohol, tbh. Or weed. Or anything much. The thing is, I would want to remember the music well if I was listening to a band I liked. I know a lot of people enjoy alcohol more than me though, so it's just a personal thing.

i can't take anything that fucks with serotonin because of my meds, so i'm sticking with the good ol jazz tobacco

Well I'm talkin roughly 10gs max if I buy something, I don't wanna start an empire just wanna shmoke that buddhas broccoli in my undies

yeah 10g won't get you in trouble tbh

It's above the "allowed" threshold where I live

[QUOTE=Raizo;53027738]It's above the "allowed" threshold where I live[/QUOTE] If it's a felony, you gotta be careful. Most cops won't really "care" depending on where you're from since most cops here are friends/family with people that smoke often and have said they don't. Though, it is decriminalized versus being totally illegal. Anyone here like Backwoods? Really getting into Honey over Originals or Dark Stouts lately

Are auhorities and stuff fake selling on The Dark Web? I ask because I want to get some Mandy, but am keen to know first. Will probably still risk it, but am just a bit cautious.

I've read about LE busting a vendor and taking over his account, they impersonated the vendor and answered encrypted messages from buyers, asking them weird questions trying to figure out who they were and shit

aaaaand thats why you use proper PGP encryption and dont answer any weird questions [editline]5th January 2018[/editline] if the seller is smart they either regenerate a new key with each new transaction or store it somewhere that's nearly unaccessible

[QUOTE=TheDrunkenOne;53027881]aaaaand thats why you use proper PGP encryption and dont answer any weird questions [editline]5th January 2018[/editline] if the seller is smart they either regenerate a new key with each new transaction or store it somewhere that's nearly unaccessible[/QUOTE] Yeah, I will do that. I just didn't know how it worked. :) [editline]5th January 2018[/editline] [QUOTE=TheDrunkenOne;53027536]As much as I'm a big advocate for legalization I still believe it should be subject to a "hybrid" set of rules that encompass the use of tobacco and alcohol. So don't drive while high, use it in your own private domicile, don't sell without a license etc. I feel like if we made an effort legalized and regulated cannabis for recreational use could become a reality [editline]5th January 2018[/editline] Shit, people are allowed to brew their own beer for personal use, so why not grow their own pot?[/QUOTE] Well, yeah. I am not saying that people should drive high or whatever. It should have the same rules as alcohol. Don't smoke 'til you're 18 and don't drive.

let's hope 2018 will be the year of change for the EU