The Addicts' Lounge IV - fast times at Ridgemont, high

[NeverGoWest]

[QUOTE=Tobba;51996882]I'm officially no longer out of weed.

I'm also really thankful that my weed tolerance is absolutely inexistent, I'm beyond fucking impaired off a 0.5g joint. I know I couldn't handle a 1.5g one.

[editline]22nd March 2017[/editline]

ama[/QUOTE]

ARE YOU A BIG GUY?

[editline]22nd March 2017[/editline]

lol caps

weed is sweet to greet the greedy georgian gremlins in the georgian church with the goat and ur nan

[The bird Woman]

grow faster you fuckers

[NeverGoWest]

[video=youtube;7RK2Gz8J8JA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RK2Gz8J8JA[/video]

[FFStudios]

[QUOTE=jp_rsardeto;51994201]How can I clean my bong? Mine looks disgusting rn[/QUOTE]

anything above 90% isopropyl alcohol (rubbing alcohol) and a bit of coarse grain salt will work wonders.

barring that, some hot soapy water will get the surface stuff, but likely won't eat away at any layers of gunk you've built up. just make sure you don't run hot water through it and immediately dunk it in cold water - you might crack the glass. best way is to start hot and gradually lower the temp as you rinse it out.

[WoodenSpoon]

[QUOTE=Lollipoopdeck;51991959]starting to have some serious thc tolerance, usually a 1.5g joint would keep me high for 1-2 hours with a after effects lasting quite some time after now it just keeps me high for an hour. Gonna take a break for a week or two, also started reading Terrance McKenna's Archaic revival after running out of lectures to listen too.

For someone who hasn't had any psychedelic experiences bar the times I've gotten REALLY stoned and had pretty intense trips but nothing visual, would dried psilocybin shrooms be a good place to start or would something like lsd or similar be better?[/QUOTE]

Shrooms are nice for beginners imo because you come up, there's a peak, and then you coast back down to baseline plain and simple, usually in the span of 4-6 hours depending on the ROA. It's quite a mental journey and there may be some personal difficulties to overcome, but it's totally worth it and you'll be stronger afterward. You usually learn a lot about yourself and it can be a great bonding experience with your closest friends. I also find that there's an anti-depressive effect where you tend to feel awesome for a while afterwards; I've felt it up to a week and even months after a trip, and I've seen similar reports. One more good thing about shrooms, is that there's no dealing with strange research chemicals or chemical testing kits. Many species are psychoactive and contain psilocybin in predictable concentrations. They can be easily found/identified, and even easily be grown for very low cost.

I'd def recommend about 2g - 2.5g of [i]Psilocybe cubensis[/i] or an equivalent dose of another shroom species for a fun and light-hearted first psychedelic adventure, just make sure you're in a good place, physically and mentally.
[img]https://erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/images/duration_chart_mushrooms.gif[/img]

LSD can last up to 12 hours and there's multiple peaks, aka the intensity tends to oscillate. On shrooms you're a helpless passenger sitting along for the ride with the mushroom gods, but on LSD you're at the controls of your trip ship, free to fly where you please. I don't really know how else to put it other than you just start feeling the warm, lovely embrace of Lucy and then you're tripping and everything is possible from that point on. Real acid is an amazing substance, and in my opinion it's a fine luxury of life that can be intimately enjoyed. You just have to deal with finding a legitimate source, and then you'll have to take whoever's word on what the dosage is. Also I haven't done LSD nearly as much as shrooms so apologies if this explanation is lackluster.

If you can somehow find real acid (please use a testing kit) and if dnm dosages are anything to go by, I can recommend 150μg as a solid LSD experience that won't get too insane. That or just test it by taking ONE tab.
[img]https://erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/images/duration_chart_lsd.gif[/img]

Personally I started out with shrooms mostly because I could grow them in my closet and share them with friends as opposed to hunting for sketchy acid from my classmates. Was totally worth it and now I enjoy a cheap and fun hobby, mycology.

[editline]22nd March 2017[/editline]

Pick your poison.

[NeverGoWest]

I was going to post something but then i forgot what

[WolfOfWallSt]

maybe something taliban related

[Lily]

[QUOTE=ZenX2;51997354]Got a half ounce of green crack smalls for $35, it's a miracle[/QUOTE]

What the fuck

I have to pay $60 for just 4g of green crack, granted that was a bit on the more expensive end in the first place.

[meowmynips]

[QUOTE=Tobba;51998323]What the fuck

I have to pay $60 for just 4g of green crack, granted that was a bit on the more expensive end in the first place.[/QUOTE]

If you think thats a good price.. I can get a full oz for 56.25 USD :v

[matt000024]

[QUOTE=WoodenSpoon;51997784]Shrooms are nice for beginners imo because you come up, there's a peak, and then you coast back down to baseline plain and simple, usually in the span of 4-6 hours depending on the ROA. It's quite a mental journey and there may be some personal difficulties to overcome, but it's totally worth it and you'll be stronger afterward. You usually learn a lot about yourself and it can be a great bonding experience with your closest friends. I also find that there's an anti-depressive effect where you tend to feel awesome for a while afterwards; I've felt it up to a week and even months after a trip, and I've seen similar reports. One more good thing about shrooms, is that there's no dealing with strange research chemicals or chemical testing kits. Many species are psychoactive and contain psilocybin in predictable concentrations. They can be easily found/identified, and even easily be grown for very low cost.

I'd def recommend about 2g - 2.5g of [i]Psilocybe cubensis[/i] or an equivalent dose of another shroom species for a fun and light-hearted first psychedelic adventure, just make sure you're in a good place, physically and mentally.
[img]https://erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/images/duration_chart_mushrooms.gif[/img]

LSD can last up to 12 hours and there's multiple peaks, aka the intensity tends to oscillate. On shrooms you're a helpless passenger sitting along for the ride with the mushroom gods, but on LSD you're at the controls of your trip ship, free to fly where you please. I don't really know how else to put it other than you just start feeling the warm, lovely embrace of Lucy and then you're tripping and everything is possible from that point on. Real acid is an amazing substance, and in my opinion it's a fine luxury of life that can be intimately enjoyed. You just have to deal with finding a legitimate source, and then you'll have to take whoever's word on what the dosage is. Also I haven't done LSD nearly as much as shrooms so apologies if this explanation is lackluster.

If you can somehow find real acid (please use a testing kit) and if dnm dosages are anything to go by, I can recommend 150μg as a solid LSD experience that won't get too insane. That or just test it by taking ONE tab.
[img]https://erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/images/duration_chart_lsd.gif[/img]

Personally I started out with shrooms mostly because I could grow them in my closet and share them with friends as opposed to hunting for sketchy acid from my classmates. Was totally worth it and now I enjoy a cheap and fun hobby, mycology.

[editline]22nd March 2017[/editline]

Pick your poison.[/QUOTE]

Shrooms are more sedative than stimulating right? How "fun" is the come up? With my acid trip, the come-up was one of the most energetic fun feeling I've ever had.

This, but in mind-form:
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIiYJRO7HAI[/media]

[editline]22nd March 2017[/editline]

imo Brian Wilson should've made the lyrics

Now how can I say it
And how can I come [b]up[/b]
When I know I'm guilty

instead of

Now how can I say it
And how can I come on
When I know I'm guilty

since the song is about acid after all

[WoodenSpoon]

[QUOTE=matt000024;51998556]Shrooms are more sedative than stimulating right? How "fun" is the come up? With my acid trip, the come-up was one of the most energetic fun feeling I've ever had.[/QUOTE]

Yeah mushrooms are pretty overall sedating and there is a strong body load. Eating them has a more gradual onset and lengthy trip, whilst tea or lemon tek will hit fast and hard, but the trip will be slightly shorter. H3re is my experience with more moderate amounts 3g -4g, lighter doses have less of the described load:

The comeup can be quite intense ime. As soon as you begin to feel it, there's no turning back, just a quick and steady climb to whatever level your dose will take you to, as you may have noticed from the steeper incline on the shroom-graph. Not only are you accelerating alarmingly quickly into psychedelic head-space, but you're experiencing the gastrointestinal churning of a stomach full of toxic mushroom matter (if eaten or tea is poorly filtered), and likely feelings of nausea as well. You learn how to work with this situation in your own way. If I could offer any advice, it would be to surrender yourself completely during the onset, which is much easier said than done. I have yet to voluntarily let go despite many trips, so far it's only been by force. I've read accounts by others, and what seems to help is to either lay down somewhere quiet and let it happen, or try and get the energy in your body and mind flowing. For example if we're feeling sick in our stomachs from the mushroom, begin to sing, chant, hum, breathe rhythmically, move your hands/torso, do a sacred dance, etc. and channel everything outwards like you're a fucking quasar or some shit. Move the pent up energy in your stomach up through your chest, to your throat, and out the body (not in the form of vomit). One of my favorite tools for this is by playing didgeridoo, where I can circular breathe, drone, and make animal noises through a giant tube, and it is definitely a form of release. You will feel amazing and your heightened awareness will shift to these new sensations instead of concentrating solely on how sick you feel magnified x 50. It's so much better than lying in the fetal position on the floor going "oooooh, oh God, ohhhh Goooood *runs to bathroom*." Fasting beforehand also probably helps a lot. I always stupidly take shrooms after eating greasy southern food, and the shrooms are always like "wtf are you doing to yourself", and make me puke up that unhealthy shit. Shrooms have caused my body to associate tripping in any form with "purge", both physically and mentally, shit I'll even purge on acid now. Idk some people may not get as sick from shrooms as I do, but I pretty much always get quite sick from them and it effects the nature of my trips and come ups. Puking is pretty much the climax of my comeup and then it's all smooth trippin from that point on.

tl:dr Yeah the come up is really fun!

Don't worry, the intense disorientation of transitioning dies down and you'll be nicely settled into the trip by then. Also many of the physical discomforts of shrooms can be avoided by using extracts (such as alcohol tincture or properly made tea) and will produce more of a "clean" psychedelic trip more akin to DMT or LSD. Puking will also make the trip feel more clean. Pure psilocybin synthesized in a lab can even be acquired. The mushroom matter and other trace quantities of alkaloids definitely effect the nature of the trip. Sorry if I talk about too many details, I feel like it spoils the fun in some ways.

[matt000024]

Wait so if you puke you won't be wasting any of the psychedelic parts? What if I ground or cut up the shrooms, mixed them in water, and then chugged it?

[NeverGoWest]

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Tactical Aerosol Can Of Rancid Old Unhygeinic Woman Farts And Gross Ass And Cunt Sweat For Use In Deterring Asshole Drunks

[.𓃉𓁿𓂎𓁿𓃉.]

[QUOTE=matt000024;51999251]Wait so if you puke you won't be wasting any of the psychedelic parts? What if I ground or cut up the shrooms, mixed them in water, and then chugged it?[/QUOTE]

from a lot of things i have read, from an entheogenic perspective vomiting is a part of the process, makes you feel like you are purging impurities and that kind of shit.

slightly related, but when i used to dex i know that after puking the trip would always go into overdrive

[lolita la vida]

[QUOTE=matt000024;51999251]Wait so if you puke you won't be wasting any of the psychedelic parts? What if I ground or cut up the shrooms, mixed them in water, and then chugged it?[/QUOTE]

If you puke immediately you fucked up. If it's an hour or 2 into the trip it won't matter.

The stomach thing varies from person to person. When I eat shrooms I have about 45-60 minutes of nausea until i can start burping all my stomach gasses out, I usually bring soda a soda to help with that. My friends stomach will hurt from start to finish.

[meowmynips]

might order some etizolam, aMT, 3-fpm, or ald-52? idk though

[editline]23rd March 2017[/editline]

maybe some 5-meo-dmt/mipt/dipt?

[Joseph Smith]

Yeah, do try shrooms for your first time. Perhaps you can start small and work your way up from there in the next trips.
Gotta say, i always loved shrooms more than LSD, so they are a firm yes from me.

As for the stomach pains, i suggest you do not fast, nut also to not eat shortly before. Two hours after eating should be enough to give you the right energy and not to overload your stomach.
Like spoon said, after the initial comeup it is fun, and probably one of the best experiences you can have. I recall that time me and my friends developed some kind of hive mind, we were thinking the same things.

[editline]23rd March 2017[/editline]

On a side note, it has been a while since i came in here. How is everyone holding up?

[stupid10er]

i remember the dedicated section and then when people started getting banned for pui in it. good times

[Hamsteronfire]

[QUOTE=matt000024;51998556]Shrooms are more sedative than stimulating right? How "fun" is the come up? With my acid trip, the come-up was one of the most energetic fun feeling I've ever had.

This, but in mind-form:
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIiYJRO7HAI[/media]

[editline]22nd March 2017[/editline]

imo Brian Wilson should've made the lyrics

Now how can I say it
And how can I come [b]up[/b]
When I know I'm guilty

instead of

Now how can I say it
And how can I come on
When I know I'm guilty

since the song is about acid after all[/QUOTE]

mike love forced brian to change it because the lyrics were too obvious

[LawnBriefing]

Waking up at 3pm feeling like it's 8am, my sleep schedule is fucked.
Time to start the day as I mean to go on, wake and bake.

[Crumpets]

[QUOTE=ISPYUDIE;52000349]Waking up at 3pm feeling like it's 8am, my sleep schedule is fucked.
Time to start the day as I mean to go on, wake and bake.[/QUOTE]

I hate waking up after midday.

[The bird Woman]

[QUOTE=ISPYUDIE;52000349]Waking up at 3pm feeling like it's 8am, my sleep schedule is fucked.
Time to start the day as I mean to go on, wake and bake.[/QUOTE]

A blunt a day, and your problems are away

[zenby]

Rolled two 2g joints yesterday.... They were like weed cigars, it was wonderful

[cis.joshb]

[QUOTE=ISPYUDIE;52000349]Waking up at 3pm feeling like it's 8am, my sleep schedule is fucked.
Time to start the day as I mean to go on, wake and bake.[/QUOTE]

honestly the best cure for that shitty tired painful feeling in your eyes is a nice bowl

[source]

amazing how much 2 days without smoking does to your tolerance. i smoked 3 blunts with my friends yesterday and i was so fucking baked

[NeverGoWest]

[QUOTE=sourcegamer101;52001667]amazing how much 2 days without smoking does to your tolerance. i smoked 3 blunts with my friends yesterday and i was so fucking baked[/QUOTE]

Two days

Amazing tolerance

Three blunts

Dude you need to take a months break if you think three fucking blunts to get baked is "low tolerance"

If I manage my tolerance and dosing properly I can literally get stupid high off a pile the size of six tic tacs, three, even, if it is good hash, or kief from the weed.

[source]

[QUOTE=NeverGoWest;52001717]Two days

Amazing tolerance

Three blunts

Dude you need to take a months break if you think three fucking blunts to get baked is "low tolerance"

If I manage my tolerance and dosing properly I can literally get stupid high off a pile the size of six tic tacs, three, even, if it is good hash, or kief from the weed.[/QUOTE]

yeah 2 days is piss poor in terms of break compared to a month :D but it clearly made a discernible difference. also to note, i was pissing like a motherfucker those past 2 days because i downed like 3 cups of coffee in the span of an hour

i still remember the days where id get fucking baked off of 4 pipe hits, like seriously baked. i clearly remember it kicking in while i was walking across the street. intense tunnelvision, super forgetful of everything, im pretty sure i escaped reality too, because i didnt feel like my mind was connected to my body. it was sooo intense and id like to get that baked again. closest i could get to that feeling was after 10 dabs.

[NeverGoWest]

I had a crazy fucking day, huge fucking trippy high from edibles and gravity bong hits. Deeply introspective, constantly changing in mood, very, very uncomfortable but doesnt seem to leave any lasting impact on me, at least if I process the aftershocks correctly. It's fucking weird and while I am not having acute memory loss anymore I still have very emotionally loaded thoughts, very deep and contemplating. I had flashbacks from last time I had a shitty trip like that which was around the weeks where I ended up attempting suicide by short drop noose, failing and seeking refuge at my dads place. Now that I think about it I think it might leave a lasting impact on me, but not necessarily bad or traumatic. But traumas are definitely being dealt with subconsciously from what I could interpret of my "voyage"

The worst part is my "friend" who was mad over dumb shit and being an impatient, self righteous and hot headed cunt, as he is sometimes. When the worst part of my trip hit I just wanted to fucking stab him because he did fucking nothing about it and outright said to me that he "didnt give a shit" He has generally been more and more of a dick lately and less and less tolerating of differences. He is pushy and forceful, this is defo. negative side effects of cannabis usage, which in individuals with mild personality disorders - "outstanding personality trait" Honestly I worry more for him than for myself because while I am a weak cripple I always recover. I am sitting here, it's a guy I have known since I was a toddler in god damn daycare and he was one of the very few people in my childhood who actually gave a shit about me and put aside prejudices. I am honestly a bit mad at myself over how I didn't react and take control over my own fucking flat, give him ultimatums, put my boot in the ground, whatever you wanna call it. Not dumb shit like "shanking em' all" or "blasting him" with my crude improvised firearms, but get the fucking cunt to stop being a cunt and start being the wonderful, helpful and healthy friend that actually is in there behind the intoxicated jeerness and animosity.

Back to the trip, at some point I tried listening to my favorite album and I somehow managed to find lyrics to the songs, I gained a whole new understanding of the album and art in general and discovered that my interpretation of the music fits its actual message. Here is the first song from the album(which is WARGUTS by eyeswithoutaface by the way) I only got the lyrics in image form so bear with me.

[t]http://i.imgur.com/H68L1Pz.png[/t]

[url]https://eyeswithoutafacehq.bandcamp.com/[/url] <- give em' a listen, I can recommend WARGUTS(of course) and the song "War will set you free" the lyrics above are from that song.

The atmosphere of this album keeps persisting inside of my head.

This day has been cumbersome and tiring, cool, painful, mind numbingly irritating and extremely odd.

[editline]23rd March 2017[/editline]

[t]http://i.imgur.com/6TYYjI0.png?1[/t]

This one catches the general feel of the trip very well too.

Edit: Tagged images

[matt000024]

[QUOTE=kaskade700;51999526]If you puke immediately you fucked up. If it's an hour or 2 into the trip it won't matter.

The stomach thing varies from person to person. When I eat shrooms I have about 45-60 minutes of nausea until i can start burping all my stomach gasses out, I usually bring soda a soda to help with that. My friends stomach will hurt from start to finish.[/QUOTE]

I'm good at burping so hopefully that will assist me. As a party trick I sometimes swallow weed smoke and burp it out a minute later.

[QUOTE=Hamsteronfire;52000204]mike love forced brian to change it because the lyrics were too obvious[/QUOTE]

I knew he made him change the hold onto your ego line, but i thought the original line was always come on not come up

[editline]23rd March 2017[/editline]

wtf just remembered part of my dream last night.

I made a G-bong in my kitchen using a beer can as the part that moves up and down, but for some reason I put a cig on the top and used it purely for that. Also made out with some girl in the dream which was nice.

[NeverGoWest]

I wan't to talk to someone but everyone are either people I can't talk to about drugs, are busy or not interested.

I feel like I have come home from something awesome(in it's traditional meaning) and nobody gives an everloving shit about it(rightfully so, I took a drug and got fucked up by it, in other news the fucking sky is blue holy shit) Makes me sad that instead of talking, which rapidly improves my mood right now for some reason I might have to take a few quetiapines and sleep it all off.

[editline]23rd March 2017[/editline]

[QUOTE=matt000024;52001954]I'm good at burping so hopefully that will assist me. As a party trick I sometimes swallow weed smoke and burp it out a minute later.

I knew he made him change the hold onto your ego line, but i thought the original line was always come on not come up

[editline]23rd March 2017[/editline]

wtf just remembered part of my dream last night.

I made a G-bong in my kitchen using a beer can as the part that moves up and down, but for some reason I put a cig on the top and used it purely for that. Also made out with some girl in the dream which was nice.[/QUOTE]

I feel currently that I can perfectly translate the subconscious meaning of that dream(because it is familiar to dreams I used to have) but I can't put the description into human words and for some reason I think it might be a bit rude