[QUOTE=Soukuw;42922180]Every time I think about doing this again I get a horrible feeling in my gut
I don't think I'm ever going to do dph again
Like honestly I don't think I'd ever tell anyone it's a good idea to at least try, I'd tell them its completely awful and only try it if you really really must know what it's like.[/QUOTE]
I honestly can't even compare the dysphoria to anything I've ever experienced before, it's that bad
you just want to fall asleep so badly and you can't, you just lay there for hours feeling horrible in every way
Welp I did it again, this time in pill form so I know for a fact I got 550mg, last time I think I was around 450mg.
Took the pills, played some games, looked up some science stuff and started to feel it coming on so I turned off my light... That's about the time when everything turned dreamy and I forget the order of things.
I walked back and forth in my room for what felt like forever I was tripping over stuff fell onto my futon and then got back up and did it again after forgetting what I did.
At some point during the night I heard meowing at my door (I have a cat that wants into my room sometimes) so I went and opened the door and my friend was standing there flipping me off for some reason before he vanished into thin air so I closed the door.
My cat walked over to my bed jumped up on it and climbed onto the window sill where my water bottle was so I grabbed my water bottle and put it on the floor so the cat wouldn't knock it over and then I did my loop across my room again and accidentally kicked the water bottle over I quickly moved everything out of the way of the water and went to get a towel from my basket before forgetting what I was doing and I walked back across and stepped in the puddle and went for the towel again, after a while I managed to get the towel and dry it up a bit before forgetting again.
Needless to say this was all was weird as hell, I hardly had any control unlike last time because of my memory dropping out every 10ish seconds.
I think somewhere in there I may have gone to the bathroom or hallucinated about going to the bathroom to take a shower but then stopped myself since it was 2 in the morning and my family might find that odd.
Also the day after has been a breeze compared to last time.
Is there some psychological explanation for why people see spiders on this drug?
There's a big explanation about how it affects the way your eye fixes the interpreted image and the anticholinergic effects and bullshit like that.
Basically, your head sees black spots in your vision and it likes to think those spots are bugs or something.
[QUOTE=cody8295;43272102]Is there some psychological explanation for why people see spiders on this drug?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, seems weird to me too. Even weirder is stuff like DMT though, where a large percentage of people report seeing elves/dwarves, even if they have no idea what to expect.
[QUOTE=blehblehbleh;43273150]Yeah, seems weird to me too. Even weirder is stuff like DMT though, where a large percentage of people report seeing elves/dwarves, even if they have no idea what to expect.[/QUOTE]
hell , i have even seen battlefield 4 on dmt. like the actual game playing played in my head with dmt visuals. strange brains sending out what i did earlier or something
[QUOTE=blehblehbleh;43273150]Yeah, seems weird to me too. Even weirder is stuff like DMT though, where a large percentage of people report seeing elves/dwarves, even if they have no idea what to expect.[/QUOTE]
It's because they're real man
Just need your 3rd eye to see them
[QUOTE=AppleJackson;43272200]There's a big explanation about how it affects the way your eye fixes the interpreted image and the anticholinergic effects and bullshit like that.
Basically, your head sees black spots in your vision and it likes to think those spots are bugs or something.[/QUOTE]
I figured it was because everyone is like "HURDURR SPIDER SPIDER SPIDER DPH SPIDERS" so your mind figures there will be spiders and there is because if it.
First time did it there was spiders but they weren't black, they were those scraggly house spiders, second time I only saw one spider but that's when I was looking for it.
Edit: Well I was in the dark the second time so that may have been it... maybe they were all over me. :tinfoil:
I just remember seeing black moving dots with legs. I didn't really accosciate them with spiders though. But there were thousands of them lol
Can someone who has done other hallucinogens describe the difference? I read about DPH feeling realer? I'm honestly almost afraid of trying anything else if its as bad as this shit.
[QUOTE=Soukuw;43280607]Can someone who has done other hallucinogens describe the difference? I read about DPH feeling realer? I'm honestly almost afraid of trying anything else if its as bad as this shit.[/QUOTE]
I haven't done DPH but basically most hallucinogens are really fun (some even euphoric) while DPH forces you to have a shit time. The only reason people do it more than once is that it's 'interesting'.
[QUOTE=Soukuw;43280607]Can someone who has done other hallucinogens describe the difference? I read about DPH feeling realer? I'm honestly almost afraid of trying anything else if its as bad as this shit.[/QUOTE]
Okay well your head is empty, so you don't get that insightful hallucinogenic thought process. You're just dumb lol. And you can barely walk, you can't talk, and every hallucination is as real as can be. Some people like the extreme body load (but I don't because it feels like a stim comedown lol). There also tends to be anxiety and dysphoria for the first part of the trip but after about 1-2 hours you shouldn't really be feeling anything.
i also tend to completely forget that i've ingested the drug, so i believe everything that i see to be completely real.
me and my buddys did dramamine a couple times.. we nicknamed it "drips" (lol). never doing this shit again. its too weird and insane
Alright guys. I might try DPH for the first time tonight. What's a good first time dose, and what does tolerance look like for DPH?
[QUOTE=Solomoncrunch;43445681]Alright guys. I might try DPH for the first time tonight. What's a good first time dose, and what does tolerance look like for DPH?[/QUOTE]
I've heard two opposing arguments. Join the 700 club from the outset, be too fucked up to care about the bad side effects, or a low dose to have a (slightly) better grip on reality, but be hit pretty hard on the shit side effects. Depends really if you're alone in your house or you have family. Go ask /del/.
Alright so I did it. Last night I took 550mg and I had a pretty okay time! I didn't mind the body load, and none of the hallucinations were really awful. I was in a skype call with two of my buddies, who were playing minecraft, so I kept thinking I was playing with them but then I'd realize I was just laying in bed, listening to music. I only saw one spider, and it was gone when I looked closer, so not that scary. When I went to the restroom I thought the hallway nightlight was moving, and I panicked and sprinted back to my room. (I was really more like stumbling) It was not as awful as everyone said it would be. My motto - respect the chemical and it will respect you. I came into it with the right mind set and had an OK experience. It wasn't really fun, and my friends were laughing at me because I couldn't finish sentences I was so confused and forgetful, but overall I'll probly do it again!
[QUOTE=Solomoncrunch;43452824]but overall I'll probly do it again![/QUOTE]
That's about the time you gain a phobia for opening doors in the dark, I'm honestly uneasy now when I open them.
Next time I do DPH I'm joining the 700 club, have to wait until I'm home alone or something though.
If you do take a recreational dose of DPH, I would recommend having a laser pointer with you at all times. It will allow you to distinguish what is and is not a hallucination.
[QUOTE=Solomoncrunch;43452824]Alright so I did it. Last night I took 550mg and I had a pretty okay time! I didn't mind the body load, and none of the hallucinations were really awful. I was in a skype call with two of my buddies, who were playing minecraft, so I kept thinking I was playing with them but then I'd realize I was just laying in bed, listening to music. I only saw one spider, and it was gone when I looked closer, so not that scary. When I went to the restroom I thought the hallway nightlight was moving, and I panicked and sprinted back to my room. (I was really more like stumbling) It was not as awful as everyone said it would be. My motto - respect the chemical and it will respect you. I came into it with the right mind set and had an OK experience. It wasn't really fun, and my friends were laughing at me because I couldn't finish sentences I was so confused and forgetful, but overall I'll probly do it again![/QUOTE]
you would have probably had a way more intense experience if you hadn't been in your room. i once did it in the middle of a forest at nightime with a bunch of friends and that shit was intense as fuck.
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thanks to Mac2468 for daring me to do it back then haha :v:
Just took 150mg DPH as a sleep aid... Does anyone else do this? You guys know that ZZZquil and related products the active ingredient is DPH but it costs like 10x more than just getting DPH pills.
[QUOTE=firestorm0;43542237]If you do take a recreational dose of DPH, I would recommend having a laser pointer with you at all times. It will allow you to distinguish what is and is not a hallucination.[/QUOTE]
This sounds more and more like alan wake
[QUOTE=Gogi;43698905]This sounds more and more like alan wake[/QUOTE]
Diphenhydramine induces an experience that Alan Wake is derivative of. Delirium is essentially a state of dreaming while awake, while heavily cognitively impaired and physically hindered. I watched a chip in the paint on the wall move upwards for 8 minutes, torn in the paradox that it was perpetually moving but never getting any closer to the ceiling.
I was reduced to prayer (as an atheist) by the delusion that there was a mangled dead woman in the bath tub and that I had murdered her. I stumbled to my bed and recited a clumsy mixture of every prayer I'd ever heard, honestly believing there was someone there who would listen.
I never saw many spiders, but shadows in a dark room would defy perspective. My brain would struggle with interpreting whether they were protruding from the wall into the third dimension or flat on the wall, and they fascinated me for quite a while.
My arms were always heavy, and my lungs felt as if I were breathing a dense, dense atmosphere. This would often induce a state of melancholy, of idle daydreaming of mundane things that would occasionally become completely real (I repeatedly thought I was texting somebody only to find my hands empty and my phone on the charger) before jarringly dropping you back into reality, as if you awoke from the verge of sleep. The floor felt like the mattress and the mattress felt infinitely deep, where my arms and legs would fall into it and keep falling until I was lying down, giving the impression I had fallen from a great height.
The body load was most bearable while sitting upright. When laying down it felt as if an ocean were resting atop my body and I had to breathe the densest liquid conceivable and the floor when standing was far too unstable to rely on.
Various things would shake, and i would accept that they were shaking and wonder why. The large overstuffed chair in the living room was vibrating silently in every direction and cups and bottles that weren't there would fall from shelves that didn't exist to never reach the floor. The state of fear was palpable. It was that feeling when you misstep on a curb or while walking and the ground is rushing up, except it went on for hours.
It was as if all of my life had driven me mad in a manner specifically catered to torture me and me alone. I knew it was all mad, but it was all so real that I couldn't honestly say I didn't believe it at the time.
For days after I was afraid that things would turn out to not be real, that a person who passed was likely never there, and that I had lost my mind. I suffered severe HPPD afterwards, with the word 'DEMO' often imprinted on the inside of my eyelids on spreading fractals that would yield only in sleep, which would be characterized by lucid dreams that were never able to go well.
I suffered existential death after existential death, feeling lost from reality and time in a sense that I couldn't bear to be aware of the ticking clock. My anxiety became a constant. I no longer could bear to take risks or even sit in a car without fearing inevitable death. The knowledge of what true madness is like is scarring to the mind and spirit. It challenges every notion of reality in the worst ways and leaves you at the end with a million questions that will pester you for a lifetime and no chance at an answer.
It was like vacationing in schizophrenia and catching a case of PTSD from the locals. Even though none of it was real, I believed a million things I don't remember believing and came to doubt everything that was real in a single night, in the worst way.
Holy shit. How much did you take? That's a pretty incredible description of DPH.
[QUOTE=FreakyMe;43707170]long quote.[/QUOTE]
Whoa... Good thing I've not even have though on trying this. That sound crazy, a little too crazy for me.
The only type of delirium I've experienced was when I tried 4HO-Something, I was laughing at cars when walking home, and thought there was a motocross race or something in the forest closeby.
My girlfriend's recently gotten me into using Benadryl just simply as a sleeping aid, I've never gone past 100-150mg simply because I've read shit that's happened in this thread. I get a little bit of confusion every now and then and I can't really distinguish what was a dream and what wasn't during the night, but other than that, I sleep pretty well.
Meanwhile, I'm doing it again in a few hours.
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Damn, last night was crazy. I hung out with my buddy this time and there wasn't anything too crazy until we got in the car. We just sat in my car listening to music for like an hour, and it was perfect. I saw a massive, smokey spider dancing on the hood and what I thought was a childhood friend out shoveling snow at 1:00am. I kept waving at him until my buddy pointed out that it wasn't a person, but a stone column in somebody's front yard. The suspension of the car parked in front of us kept bouncing around and spilling car pieces on the ground, and there were so many amazing patterns in the street and the snow. I actually enjoyed it, as I felt safe in my car, and all of the hallucinations were very interesting. The only part that was unpleasant was when I tried to get to sleep last night. DPH makes me so restless, agitated, and uncomfortable that I can't sleep on it. This resulted in over an hour of tossing and turning with a racing mind. Still though - I don't understand why everyone else thinks this drug is so awful; I kinda like it!
Tried this ages ago, did the stupid thing by going to school after taking a 800mg dose. Had to go walk between buildings for something, hit me while i was looking over a grassy field at 9AM. It was kinda like momentarily going into tunnel vision and everything went to shit. It wasn't pleasant at all, i was paranoid as hell. When i got back inside, i took my seat and stared at the window and watched it multiply into a 3x3 grid of windows. I'd rather take a bunch of DXM than do that ever again, at least i enjoyed DXM. Would recommend that you not ever try this, it's very dangerous, especially if you need to do things.
[QUOTE=zombini;43794189]It wasn't pleasant at all, i was paranoid as hell....Would recommend that you not ever try this, it's very dangerous...[/QUOTE]
Really guys? My motto - "Respect the chemical and it will respect you." No shit you had a bad time - you were stupid about it and didn't go into it with the proper knowledge and preparation. I really think that DPH is a cool drug for cool people, as I had a lot of fun just sitting in my car and HALLUCINATING. All you guys that are like "don't do this pl0x itz a bad drug lol I did so much and then tried to give surgery in the woods in the middle of the night and it sucked balls" just didn't have the right mindset. If you're curious about this drug, try it. Do your research and give yourself a safe environment where you feel secure and comfortable. It's as if a really unsafe driver gets in an accident, so he tells everyone else that driving is terrifying and dangerous. Just drive safely, kids. Also don't drive on DPH.
[QUOTE=Solomoncrunch;43827794]Really guys? My motto - "Respect the chemical and it will respect you." No shit you had a bad time - you were stupid about it and didn't go into it with the proper knowledge and preparation. I really think that DPH is a cool drug for cool people, as I had a lot of fun just sitting in my car and HALLUCINATING. All you guys that are like "don't do this pl0x itz a bad drug lol I did so much and then tried to give surgery in the woods in the middle of the night and it sucked balls" just didn't have the right mindset. If you're curious about this drug, try it. Do your research and give yourself a safe environment where you feel secure and comfortable. It's as if a really unsafe driver gets in an accident, so he tells everyone else that driving is terrifying and dangerous. Just drive safely, kids. Also don't drive on DPH.[/QUOTE]
Dude, even highly experienced drug user report shit times on DPH. It's not just a matter of set and setting, it's in large part due to it's effects lending themselves towards dysphoria and other negative emotions.
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