• The Majority of United States Citizens are unaware that the government has no money.
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I don't understand what you're saying. What do you mean by having their "own" money? The government makes a profit from collecting taxes. It's one of the sources of income. Other sources include services or goods. The US government has a fuck ton of services it sells to other countries. It also profits from fines. There's also a trick it uses. If the government prints money at a rate that matches normal inflation, then the government can make money without hurting the economy. For those who bitch about taxes, it's like a landlord collecting rent. We live in the US and use it's services, therefore we have to pay a rent and service fee. If you don't like it, you can leave. The thing is, the US government uses the money we pay to provide us with better living conditions.
[QUOTE=Wolverunder;25854159]I really don't think we are on the same page.[/QUOTE] We're on page 1.
[QUOTE=Master117;25854162]I don't understand what you're saying. The government makes a profit from collecting taxes. That is one source of their income. It's like a landlord collecting rent. The thing is, the US government uses the money we pay to provide us with better living conditions.[/QUOTE] Yes. I get this. I'm not contesting that. I'm saying from what I've seen people think they government can just shit out money everywhere and make everything better. They don't understand where the money comes from.
[QUOTE=Wolverunder;25854159]I really don't think we are on the same page.[/QUOTE] You're in a different book. [editline]4th November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Wolverunder;25854202]Yes. I get this. I'm not contesting that. I'm saying from what I've seen people think they government can just shit out money everywhere and make everything better. They don't understand where the money comes from.[/QUOTE] Money comes from nowhere. It can be mass produced for literally no expense.
Your friends = Fuckwits.
[QUOTE=amcwatters;25854203]You're in a different book. [editline]4th November 2010[/editline] He's at the wrong library. Money comes from nowhere. It can be mass produced for literally no expense.[/QUOTE] Edit: Wait what
[QUOTE=d3450;25854228]Your friends = Fuckwits.[/QUOTE] Read the rest of the thread before you post, but yeah. Most of them are.
[QUOTE=Wolverunder;25854248]Read the rest of the thread before you post, but yeah. Most of them are.[/QUOTE] And you're the Master Race brilliant supreme person of your social group who knows everything?
[QUOTE=Coffee;25854270]And you're the Master Race brilliant supreme person of your social group who knows everything?[/QUOTE] It wasn't obvious?
[QUOTE=Wolverunder;25854309]It wasn't obvious?[/QUOTE] Nope, I think you're just a bigoted internet nerd who thinks he's better than his friends because he has an inferiority complex. Seriously, stop thinking you're better than everyone, you'll get nowhere in life like that.
Dont ask about national debt to middle schoolers :downs: Everyone knows that we're in debt, so we OBVIOUSLY dont have money. duurrr
Why should the government even be using money? They are the damn government for god sakes they should not have any economical link to citizens.
[QUOTE=Coffee;25854347]Nope, I think you're just a bigoted internet nerd who thinks he's better than his friends because you have an inferiority complex. Seriously, stop thinking you're better than everyone, you'll get nowhere in life like that.[/QUOTE] Or maybe I'm just observing the fact that the people I know don't know something that should be common knowledge, because people should know about their governments. There's plenty I don't know about. I'm not trying to be superior nor did I ever state that I was, so calling me a bigot is pretty uncalled for.
[QUOTE=amcwatters;25854203]Money comes from nowhere. It can be mass produced for literally no expense.[/QUOTE] hmm yeah that worked out great for Germany [media]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/German_Hyperinflation.jpg[/media] And Zimbabwe [media]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3c/Zimbabwe_Hyperinflation_2008_notes.jpg[/media]
[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;25854383]Dont ask about national debt to middle schoolers :downs: Everyone knows that we're in debt, so we OBVIOUSLY dont have money. duurrr[/QUOTE] Again... this isn't about debt. We could be the richest country in the world and have zero debt. The government still has no money to call their own, because it's the money from the people that they receive through taxation. Again, again, it's just how it works.
[QUOTE=Wolverunder;25854399]Or maybe I'm just observing the fact that the people I know don't know something that should be common knowledge, because people should know about their governments. There's plenty I don't know about. I'm not trying to be superior nor did I ever state that I was, so calling me a bigot is pretty uncalled for.[/QUOTE] Maybe your friends don't want to be boring and talk about politics and economics because they're young and want to enjoy the fruits of life while they can? [editline]4th November 2010[/editline] What you're aware of may be common knowledge - with 30 year old's, not high school kids.
[QUOTE=Coffee;25854437]Maybe your friends don't want to be boring and talk about politics and economics because they're young and want to enjoy the fruits of life while they can?[/QUOTE] Keep making your wild assumptions that I never even gave you any reason to come to, honestly I think you're just looking for a way right now to use big words to make yourself sound more intelligent. I really didn't belittle anyone, and you just came out of nowhere with that. Whatever works for you bro. By the way we're on page 2 now.
[QUOTE=Wolverunder;25854512]Keep making your wild assumptions that I never even gave you any reason to come to, honestly I think you're just looking for a way right now to use big words to make yourself sound more intelligent.[/quote] And here we have the inferiority complex kicking in again. [quote] I really didn't belittle anyone, and you just came out of nowhere with that. Whatever works for you bro. By the way we're on page 2 now.[/QUOTE] You're saying your friends are stupid because they don't know about economics even though they probably don't care. You're then assuming that the rest of the world is stupid because they don't care about it. When in actual fact, you're just being blind to that fact that people shouldn't care about it at that age.
[QUOTE=Coffee;25854566]And here we have the inferiority complex kicking in again. You're saying your friends are stupid because they don't know about economics even though they probably don't care. You're then assuming that the rest of the world is stupid because they don't care about it. When in actual fact, you're just being blind to that fact that people shouldn't care about it at that age.[/QUOTE] Pretty sure I didn't make the claim that anyone was stupid aside from in the OP about the circle jerk thing, and I wasn't directing that at anyone. Coffee, we don't need to be banter each other. I see a bright future for us, together. [editline]4th November 2010[/editline] I've never been with a Scalie. Will it hurt?
[QUOTE=Wolverunder;25854618]Pretty sure I didn't make the claim that anyone was stupid aside from in the OP about the circle jerk thing[/QUOTE] That means you did make the claim. [quote] Coffee, we don't need to be banter each other. I see a bright future for us, together.[/QUOTE] Yes we do, you're being bigoted and I'm trying to hammer some sense into you. Oh and flattering your opponent isn't the best way to win a debate. [editline]4th November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Wolverunder;25854618] I've never been with a Scalie. Will it hurt?[/QUOTE] I'm not a Scaly, my avatar is of a Pokemon.
[QUOTE=Coffee;25854669]That means you did make the claim. Yes we do, you're being bigoted and I'm trying to hammer some sense into you. Oh and flattering your opponent isn't the best way to win a debate.[/QUOTE] I'm not debating with you anymore. I'm not trying to win anything. Hell my point wasn't even to debate to start with. It was a question.
Define not having money. Because we are still pouring money into the war, and government things. However we are in debt, so if for some reason being in debt means not having money then you are right.
[QUOTE=Wolverunder;25854687]I'm not debating with you anymore. I'm not trying to win anything. Hell my point wasn't even to debate to start with. It was a question.[/QUOTE] "The Majority of United States Citizens are unaware that the government has no money." That is your point. Your point is wrong because you're generalising a bunch of teenagers for the rest of your country. You're now pretending you never had a point because you know that you have lost the debate, so you're going to lie your way out of it. That's almost as bad as when people say something stupid like "hurr all fags must burn" then afterwards saying you were being sarcastic. It doesn't make you look smarter, it makes you look dumber. Do you comprehend? [editline]4th November 2010[/editline] I think my work here is done.
This is like my old Barrack Obama thread. What kind of name is Barrack anyway??
[QUOTE=Mattofwiles;25855009]This is like my old Barrack Obama thread. What kind of name is Barrack anyway??[/QUOTE] Does it really matter?
[QUOTE=Coffee;25854761]"The Majority of United States Citizens are unaware that the government has no money." That is your point. Your point is wrong because you're generalising a bunch of teenagers for the rest of your country. You're now pretending you never had a point because you know that you have lost the debate, so you're going to lie your way out of it. That's almost as bad as when people say something stupid like "hurr all fags must burn" then afterwards saying you were being sarcastic. It doesn't make you look smarter, it makes you look dumber. Do you comprehend? [editline]4th November 2010[/editline] I think my work here is done.[/QUOTE] Sorry. Was washing windows. Yes I made a generalization at the start but then I corrected myself. It is my belief that people should be informed about their government, and I'm surprised from the people I've associated with so many of them don't. That's why I went on to rephrase my question. You insist on continuing to argue though, and I don't understand why. I'll go ahead and let you have the last word. [editline]4th November 2010[/editline] Mods you can have my thread now, it's obvious it isn't going anywhere because Coffee wanted to derail everywhere.
[QUOTE=Coffee;25854566]And here we have the inferiority complex kicking in again. [/QUOTE] I agree with you about him being a moron and all, but get it right. Inferiority complex is someone that feels lesser than other people, and you are obviously making him sound that he thinks he's better than everyone, ergo a Superiority Complex.
[QUOTE=mr.killa;25854387]Why should the government even be using money? They are the damn government for god sakes they should not have any economical link to citizens.[/QUOTE] Uh, because they have to pay for things like roads and services?
[QUOTE=Fycix;25855144]I agree with you about him being a moron and all, but get it right. Inferiority complex is someone that feels lesser than other people, and you are obviously making him sound that he thinks he's better than everyone, ergo a Superiority Complex.[/QUOTE] I'm fine with being a moron, Coffee was just unintentionally being a meanie.
All national governments have massive debts...
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