• Best Korea releases film about Western Propaganda
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I feel like I'm watching the into to a crappy Deus Ex TV spinoff
[QUOTE=Hiruty;36381486]I know, i saw the Facebook page and her comments on part 4. Is she still in SK or are American police trying to detain her?[/QUOTE] I'm not sure, wouldn't surprise me either way. Could I get a link to the FB page please?
There are many valid points, but this is irony at it's finest. They said we eat too much toxic food at one point, which is quite fucked up saying seeing as how most North Koreans aren't even able to eat most food because of the way things are run over there. [editline]18th June 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Clementine;36189834]Well hey I don't know man, the culture of about 40 countries (or less idk) that has about 500 million inhabitants...or the single country with little to no connection to the outside world, and has only about 30 million population...jeez, I wonder! This video is pure propaganda, yes western nations aren't the least violent, there are some things wrong with them, but uh, look at North Korea, they are 10000x worse off than us, if their viewpoint was in the position of the western nations, we would be the slaves they so say we are. Also, their definition of slave is someone who buys stuff, almost literally, damn us for enjoying items. People who are anti-stuff societies literally next to never will have a better alternative, and will NOT want to actually change the way they work, because they fucking enjoy stuff, we enjoy the things we can create, we enjoy cool games, cool phones, cool toys, all that shit...why the fuck wouldn't we?[/QUOTE] Yeah, when I got to the slave part and they said we were slaves to buy shit, it got even more ridiculous from there. At least we're able to actually attain shit for ourselves, unlike them. [editline]18th June 2012[/editline] [img]http://gyazo.com/4fd94b88a3c7857f85361eef05074f9b.png?1340030111[/img] This guy pretty much states exactly what I was thinking when I watched all the current parts.
I'd suggest watching the film, completely ignoring the fact that it was made by North Korea.
[QUOTE=Stopper;36382302]I'd suggest watching the film, completely ignoring the fact that it was made by North Korea.[/QUOTE] But you cant really ignore that. North Korea is basically finding all bad things about western population, and putting them on display like they dont do any of it. Considering most of their population is starving, and the fact that they worship their leader like a goddamn deity. Id say that they are much worse off then we are.
I was slightly amused when they quoted Dawnkins in the second video. [editline]18th June 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=dvc;36382444]But you cant really ignore that. North Korea is basically finding all bad things about western population, and putting them on display like they dont do any of it. Considering most of their population is starving, and the fact that they worship their leader like a goddamn deity. Id say that they are much worse off then we are.[/QUOTE] Completely missing the point of what I said. Watch the video, ignore North Korea altogether. Imagine a third party made the film. Apply the content to whichever nation you want.
Democracy is the worst form of government except for all those others that have been tried. -Churchill And it's true, this society is the lesser evil. [editline]18th June 2012[/editline] [quote]Here is the formal statement I gave to Police on 16 June, 2012: On a trip to visit family in Seoul in April, I was approached by a man and a woman who claimed to be North Korean defectors. They requested a meeting the following day to hand over a film that needed to be translated, and I agreed to meet with them. They presented me with a DVD disc that recently came into their possession via the recent arrival of a defector into their group. They asked me to translate the film and "make sure the world saw it" and an agreement was made to protect their identities (and mine). Despite my concerns about what I was viewing when I returned home, I proceeded to translate and post the film on You Tube because of the film's extraordinary content. I have made public my belief that this film was never intended for a domestic audience in the DPRK. Instead, I believe the 'defectors' specifically targeted me because of my reputation as a translator and interpreter. Furthermore, I now believe these people work for the DPRK. The fact that I have continued to translate and post the film in spite of this belief does not make me complicit in their intention to spread their ideology. I chose to keep posting this film because - regardless of who made it - I believe people should see it for the issues it raises, and I stand by my right to keep sharing and discussing this film. If you have questions for me or want to discuss the content further, please go to: [url]http://www.facebook.com/pages/Propagandafilm/427263763965283[/url] Thanks, Sabine[/quote]
The problem with all this information no matter how true. Is that I know i'll look like 'that guy' and a totally cynical douche if I ever bring up most of these points in a conversation/argument.
I'm pretty sure it's human nature to do most of the things they mentioned here; it's just so prevalent and advanced in the West because the people are free to do so. However they make points of every country that's free in the world...
"Consumer slaves who work harder and harder to buy things they don't need" *Shows clip of an iPhone costume* I need one :(
part 5: [media][URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMxKXPJBB6s[/URL][/media] "Fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power."
part 6: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJw_-6H-N1k&feature=share[/media]
Although there are plenty of very good points made in this video, I don't think North Korea is in any position to criticise Western Governments. Western Governments are mainly composed of liars and incompetent people, but so is the Government of North Korea. The West may have caused more harm worldwide, but if North Korea was powerful enough, it would be doing exactly the same thing. I find this video to be much more useful if you just ignore the context of it being North Korean propaganda. That way, you can view it as a very powerful commentary on corrupt 'democracies' worldwide.
Indeed it is best to forget it is made by North Korea when watching it :P
Consumerism isn't some tool developed and maintained by the government to control the masses. It's because of how free markets and advertising evolved and changed society. It's not ideal, and still pretty stupid, but it's not the result of some sort of government conspiracy.
Part 7 [video=youtube;3Y33VpqHnIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y33VpqHnIA&feature=relmfu[/video] Part 8 [video=youtube;a-zdURmXkTY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-zdURmXkTY[/video] [editline]11th July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Clavus;36554827]Consumerism isn't some tool developed and maintained by the government to control the masses. It's because of how free markets and advertising evolved and changed society. It's not ideal, and still pretty stupid, but it's not the result of some sort of government conspiracy.[/QUOTE] There aren't any free markets, massive government intervention stops those from developing. Either way, consumerism is hilariously terrible
[QUOTE=JustExtreme;36720065]Part 7 There aren't any free markets, massive government intervention stops those from developing. Either way, consumerism is hilariously terrible[/QUOTE] What is this "massive government intervention" exactly?
Man they just don't stop showing clips of dying children out of nowhere, do they? "People are slaves buying phones...Meanwhile, this kid has no right side of his face!" Oh hey, the section about violence in the public eye didn't have any. But then they brought up history and a kid got shot in the back by a helicopter. "Kim Kardashian wears furs because they are luxurious in the west" and then shots of wolves being slaughtered for fur because why not
Nothing in here I havn't already seen, but at least somebody saw fit to sum it all up for us.
Ignoring the hypocrisy of the film it seems to be a pretty accurate analysis of what is going on.
The entire video makes the assumption that all media sources are controlled by the government and used to enforce government interests, and it's all an interconnected conspiracy. This is completely untrue. Moving on.
[QUOTE=King Tiger;36726779]The entire video makes the assumption that all media sources are controlled by the government and used to enforce government interests, and it's all an interconnected conspiracy. This is completely untrue. Moving on.[/QUOTE] Yeah thats right, move along sheep... nothing for you to see here.
Part 9 [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Irw7SRv-l44[/media]
Yay video games got a part
[video=youtube;6NMr2VrhmFI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NMr2VrhmFI[/video]
pretty accurate film.
[QUOTE=Axelius;36772362]pretty accurate film.[/QUOTE] Except for when they agreed with 9/11 truthers and think that Hoover wanted Pearl Harbor. It's pretty good socially, but whenever they bring up history, specifically related to the Korean war, they kinda fuck it up.
Thanksgiving: celebrating the genocide of natives since 1600
They pretty much view our standard practice of "marketing" as "propaganda". interesting Although this film has a lot of things that are true about our society, it also makes ridiculous connections that say that we are all basically slaves and what not. Interesting analysis of our culture, especially in such a hypocritical form. This movie is depressing...
The whole thing seems to be a paraphrased version of Manufacturing Consent by Chomsky and Orwell's 1984, and whilst I agree with the observation in Manufacturing Consent I find the whole idea of 1984 to be silly, and in this case hypocritical. If the tone had been less "Orwellian" and more in line of Huxley's [I]Brave New World[/I] theorem, that what we love will destroy us, I think it would have been more interesting from an ideological stand point. Still the documentary itself is interesting as it tells a lot about manufactured North Korean culture as well as their perception of manufactured western culture (blatantly). I guess it's another example of a work that tells more about the author than the actual subject.
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