• Fifty Shades of Grey Trailer
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[QUOTE=Noss;45486126]it literally is fanfiction lol "oh no he said it was written like a 14 year old he must literally mean it was written by a 14 year old!" i have read excerpts from it and it is truly terrible, and that isn't just because of my preconceptions of the genre[/QUOTE] You can post a link to your source of this info?
[QUOTE=Pelican;45486201]I'm applying your shocking logic to something else and - surprise! - it's pretty retarded the point, since you're unable to grasp what I'm saying, is that you're judging a book series based on snippits that you've read, and I'm going to guess they were mostly the detailed sex scenes. also, you're bring quite aggressive about a book (and now a movie), what's the go? and extremely arrogant too, "MY OPINIONS ARE FACTS XD"[/QUOTE] I wasn't explicitly negative about the movie, nor the book. I was simply saying that the book doesn't follow any of the classic narrative or writing techniques that make a quality book. That isn't to say that people don't enjoy it, because people also enjoy things like eating microwave meals over proper food. The snippits I read weren't actually from any of the sex scenes, and instead were from the regular interactions between Grey and the Protagonist. Of course I can get a feel from the rest of the book by reading extracts. [editline]24th July 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=CWalkthroughs;45486221]You can post a link to your source of this info?[/QUOTE] It is well known that 50 shades of grey is originally a Twilight fanfiction, but seeing as you refuse to Google here you go: [url]http://articles.latimes.com/2012/apr/17/entertainment/la-et-fifty-shades-of-grey-20120417[/url] There are many more sources online, including the original fan fiction itself.
[QUOTE=Noss;45486225]I wasn't explicitly negative about the movie, nor the book. I was simply saying that the book doesn't follow any of the classic narrative or writing techniques that make a quality book. That isn't to say that people don't enjoy it, because people also enjoy things like eating microwave meals over proper food. The snippits I read weren't actually from any of the sex scenes, and instead were from the regular interactions between Grey and the Protagonist. Of course I can get a feel from the rest of the book by reading extracts. [editline]24th July 2014[/editline] It is well known that 50 shades of grey is originally a Twilight fanfiction, but seeing as you refuse to Google here you go: [url]http://articles.latimes.com/2012/apr/17/entertainment/la-et-fifty-shades-of-grey-20120417[/url] There are many more sources online, including the original fan fiction itself.[/QUOTE] That's quite a suspicious source, since the same article writers posted this link not a month later [url]http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/jacketcopy/2012/05/the-origins-of-50-shades-of-grey-go-missing.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Noss;45486225]I wasn't explicitly negative about the movie, nor the book. I was simply saying that the book doesn't follow any of the classic narrative or writing techniques that make a quality book. That isn't to say that people don't enjoy it, because people also enjoy things like eating microwave meals over proper food. The snippits I read weren't actually from any of the sex scenes, and instead were from the regular interactions between Grey and the Protagonist. Of course I can get a feel from the rest of the book by reading extracts. [editline]24th July 2014[/editline] It is well known that 50 shades of grey is originally a Twilight fanfiction, but seeing as you refuse to Google here you go: [url]http://articles.latimes.com/2012/apr/17/entertainment/la-et-fifty-shades-of-grey-20120417[/url] There are many more sources online, including the original fan fiction itself.[/QUOTE] that's good to hear, and now you're saying that innovation is bad (I am not encouraging more of these kind of stories)? something has to follow "classic narrative and writing techniques" to be a good book? that's pretty depressing
[QUOTE=Pelican;45486252]that's good to hear, and now you're saying that innovation is bad (I am not encouraging more of these kind of stories)? something has to follow "classic narrative and writing techniques" to be a good book? that's pretty depressing[/QUOTE] There is a difference between innovation and thinly veiling the absence of talent under the guise of 'innovation'. [editline]24th July 2014[/editline] [img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/41117338/me.png[/img] Here is a drawing of me, it isn't the result of the absence of effort or talent - I'm innovating the art industry!
[QUOTE=Noss;45486262]There is a difference between innovation and thinly veiling the absence of talent under the guise of 'innovation'.[/QUOTE] of course there is - I redirect you to the phenomenon known as "modern art" who is to say that she lacks talent? because you don't like the book and you believe that she does not adhere to some "guidelines"? isn't the whole thing meant to be subjective? at least, that's what I thought opinions were meant to be!
[QUOTE=Jackald;45485306]The SJW explosion about this film is going to be something really funny to see. I honestly have no idea if Tumblr loves or hates 50 Shades of Grey.[/QUOTE] can you literally only think of things by proxy to tumblr or anime [editline]24th July[/editline] "hey did you hear about this new movie coming out" "[I][B]WHAT RELATION DOES THIS HAVE TO BOKU NO PICO OR MY TUMBLR FETISH YOU FUCKING PRIMORDIAL INSECT"[/B][/I]
[QUOTE=CWalkthroughs;45486251]That's quite a suspicious source, since the same article writers posted this link not a month later [url]http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/jacketcopy/2012/05/the-origins-of-50-shades-of-grey-go-missing.html[/url][/QUOTE] [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifty_Shades_of_Grey#Origin_as_fan_fiction[/url]
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;45486282][url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifty_Shades_of_Grey#Origin_as_fan_fiction[/url][/QUOTE] You'd trust Wikipedia?
[QUOTE=Pelican;45486279]of course there is - I redirect you to the phenomenon known as "modern art" who is to say that she lacks talent? because you don't like the book and you believe that she does not adhere to some "guidelines"? isn't the whole thing meant to be subjective? at least, that's what I thought opinions were meant to be![/QUOTE] She lacks talent because she uses an incredibly limited vocabulary, the interactions between the characters aren't even remotely believable, and the plot overall is nothing but a rehash of pre-existing concepts introduced by Twilight. Now I know you're going to argue now that any genre is a rehash of pre-existing concepts, but this novel was literally a Twilight fanfiction whose characters were renamed solely for the purpose of legal publication. And no, a lot of modern art does not require any talent.
[QUOTE=Noss;45485302]say what you want about the plot but the cinematography seems pretty good[/QUOTE] [url=http://i.imgur.com/aemP0C0.png]related[/url]
[QUOTE=CWalkthroughs;45486301]You'd trust Wikipedia?[/QUOTE] Oh god you're one of those people who goes "you can't trust wikipedia anybody can say what they like on there without any proof!" [editline]24th July 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=CWalkthroughs;45486301]You'd trust Wikipedia?[/QUOTE] Literally all you have to do is google in order to fact check and see that there are genuine sources, INCLUDING THE ORIGINAL FANFICTION, but you're either too retarded to do so or you just want to continue threadshitting because you can't think of a rational argument other than "CAN YOU SOURCE THIS FOR ME???????????"
[QUOTE=CWalkthroughs;45486301]You'd trust Wikipedia?[/QUOTE] ..... it's pretty well known that the story was originally a twilight fanfiction. contrary to your high school teacher's belief, wikipedia is a good source of information
Calling people retards won't make them willing, you know. We get that you wrote a thread on arguments, but that won't make everything you say correct.
[QUOTE=CWalkthroughs;45486340]Calling people retards won't make them willing, you know. We get that you wrote a thread on arguments, but that won't make everything you say correct.[/QUOTE] Well maybe if you stopped acting like one, you wouldn't be called one. You're replacing any semblance of an argument with 50 posts asking people to source for you instead of just accepting a well known fact or researching it yourself. I could pick out any post on this forum and go "CAN YOU PROVIDE A SOURCE?" and then cause 2 pages of threadshitting just through doing that. Pelican on the other hand, is actually trying to have a genuine debate rather than doing what you are, even if I do vastly disagree.
[QUOTE=CWalkthroughs;45486340]Calling people retards won't make them willing, you know. We get that you wrote a thread on arguments, but that won't make everything you say correct.[/QUOTE] calling someone a retard generally denotes that the person is wrong (in the case of an argument), and sorry bud but you refusing to believe that this series wasn't originally a twilight fanfic (which it is) is beyond my sphere of comprehension. why do you refuse to believe it?
[QUOTE=Pelican;45486357]calling someone a retard generally denotes that the person is wrong (in the case of an argument), and sorry bud but you refusing to believe that this series wasn't originally a twilight fanfic (which it is) is beyond my sphere of comprehension. why do you refuse to believe it?[/QUOTE] I liked the story :(
[url]http://www.mediabistro.com/galleycat/fifty-shades-of-grey-wayback-machine_b49124[/url] here you go bud, [QUOTE]James’ agent told Deadline Hollywood: “This did start as Twilight fan fiction, inspired by Stephenie Meyer’s wonderful series of books.[/QUOTE] third result from google. are you TRYING to make yourself look like a dong? [editline]25th July 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=CWalkthroughs;45486365]I liked the story :([/QUOTE] I did as well (as you can probably tell) but that shouldn't mean that you should mindlessly ignore factual truths about it
Also, Pelican, to continue the argument about [quote]classic narrative or writing techniques [/quote] I don't mean that every book should follow the conventions of classics such as Dickens. To use a metaphor, a book is like a cake. You have the basic ingredients, such as flour, sugar, and eggs which are used in order to make the basic cake. Now you can deviate away from this by changing the measurements or adding your own ingredients, but you can't make a [U]good[/U] cake with baking soda, ashes, and tomatoes. That still doesn't mean people won't eat the cake, it just means that to the people who do know about the cake industry, it is relatively shit.
[QUOTE=Pelican;45486373][url]http://www.mediabistro.com/galleycat/fifty-shades-of-grey-wayback-machine_b49124[/url] here you go bud, third result from google. are you TRYING to make yourself look like a dong? [editline]25th July 2014[/editline] I did as well (as you can probably tell) but that shouldn't mean that you should mindlessly ignore factual truths about it[/QUOTE] I can't believe something if the original source doesn't exist though. I usually take facts with grains of sand and since it's a popular book, I wouldn't listen to Wikipedia due to public opinion. I don't know, maybe it is just me.
I remember quite clearly watching a morning talkshow the author was on where she was like "yeah it did start as a twilight fanfiction" Source : The Author Herself I think that should be a good enough source to believe right? Like why would anyone be lying about this when it is such an astronomically dumb topic to begin with?
[QUOTE=Noss;45486391]Also, Pelican, to continue the argument about I don't mean that every book should follow the conventions of classics such as Dickens. To use a metaphor, a book is like a cake. You have the basic ingredients, such as flour, sugar, and eggs which are used in order to make the basic cake. Now you can deviate away from this by changing the measurements or adding your own ingredients, but you can't make a [U]good[/U] cake with baking soda, ashes, and tomatoes. That still doesn't mean people won't eat the cake, it just means that to the people who do know about the cake industry, it is relatively shit.[/QUOTE] I like that comparison and to what you said before, yes it is a twilight fanfic rebranded with new names - so what? sure it's a bit questionable, but that aside it's a new story. I have read the twilight series, and the two are nothing alike - plotwise. she created a new story - that's what fanfics are
[QUOTE=Joem1k;45485193][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4nJX8snP4s[/media] oh boy here we go[/QUOTE] Valentine's Day 2015. I pity the men who get dragged to see it.
[url]http://abcnews.go.com/Travel/reporters-notebook-interviewing-50-shades-of-grey-author-e-l-james/blogEntry?id=16149855&ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F[/url] "Rapid rise from fan fiction e novel to new york times bestseller" If that isnt a good enough source for you then you're just silly.
[QUOTE=CWalkthroughs;45486301]You'd trust Wikipedia?[/QUOTE] Are you a highschool teacher
[QUOTE=Pelican;45486447]I like that comparison and to what you said before, yes it is a twilight fanfic rebranded with new names - so what? sure it's a bit questionable, but that aside it's a new story. I have read the twilight series, and the two are nothing alike - plotwise. she created a new story - that's what fanfics are[/QUOTE] Sure, it's a new story, but she's recycling the concepts and characters from the Twilight series in order to make it - which takes considerably less effort and talent than building your own universe. I don't object to people enjoying the book, I just don't like them holding it to high regard and criticising anybody who says that it isn't good from an artistic/literary standpoint.
[QUOTE=gk99;45486457]Are you a highschool teacher[/QUOTE] If I had a Wikipedia page and it said that I was, would you believe it?
[QUOTE=CWalkthroughs;45486502]If I had a Wikipedia page and it said that I was, would you believe it?[/QUOTE] Oh my god just fucking stop.
[QUOTE=Noss;45486488]Sure, it's a new story, but she's recycling the concepts and characters from the Twilight series in order to make it - which takes considerably less effort and talent than building your own universe. I don't object to people enjoying the book, I just don't like them holding it to high regard and criticising anybody who says that it isn't good from an artistic/literary standpoint.[/QUOTE] well if you'd have said that to begin then I wouldn't have (much of) a problem with it. it's what I've been saying all along: O P I N I O N S
How does a re-purposed Twilight fanfic get a movie?
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