[QUOTE=wewt!;22110167]Ok I guess the word ironic makes you butthurt. In that case the post is unintentionally funny beacuse you keep insinuating that I can't think from different perspectives when it's obvious that I was the only one considering them in this arguement. :v:[/QUOTE]
All of your posts are poorly constructed in this thread.
You have not provided a valid argument worth considering since you entered it.
You seem to not know the definition of basic English words like 'ironic'.
Tell me, why are you here?
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[QUOTE=wewt!;22110191]I don't know about his stance, but I do think that someone that risks his life for an animal is selfess, not selfish.[/QUOTE]
And I think them an idiot for not considering what they are risking throwing away for something that will have little to no impact on ANYONE'S life.
BmB is clearly trolling, or he's a social outcast, which is also completely possible.
[QUOTE=wewt!;22110191]I don't know about his stance, but I do think that someone that risks his life for an animal is selfess, not selfish.[/QUOTE]
Selfless? He could have caused the ruined lives of his parents, and the driver.
It would be selfless if he didn't have the large possibility of death.
[QUOTE=FreakyMe;22110202]And I think them an idiot for not considering what they are risking throwing away for something that will have little to no impact on ANYONE'S life.[/QUOTE]
Humans are not always logical creatures. I hope you will understand that some day.
[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22110234]Selfless? He could have caused the ruined lives of his parents, and the driver.
It would be selfless if he didn't have the large possibility of death.[/QUOTE]
I guess many life or death actions that could be avoided could be seen from that perspective. But pondering on these things is a bad excuse for not saving a life. Any valued life. If someone thinks a cat's life is valuable, then that is his perspective.
[QUOTE=Parakon;22110230]BmB is clearly trolling, or he's a social outcast, which is also completely possible.[/QUOTE]
Probably a social outcast.
OP did something stupid that could have been bad, we get it. We all have. Accidentally cutting off a car, or running a red light, or jay walking, or drifting, or forgetting your turn signal. We all do stupid shit, just leave it alone.
Also, why should a human have to save the life of a cat that was too fucking stupid to not cross a street with a speeding car on it?
First I'm illogical and now I'm trolling?
I think you should get a dictionary one of these days because something is backwards here.
[QUOTE=wewt!;22110243]Humans are not always logical creatures. I hope you will understand that some day.[/QUOTE]
No, they are not.
I have no fault with the OP's actions. He fell victim to impulse and I felt I would post in here warning him that he may want to get a handle on it.
Then people like you jump in making blanket statements that anyone who doesn't save the animal at the risk of their life is bad.
I only find fault with how unintelligent you are in the face of reasoned argument.
[QUOTE=BmB;22110273]First I'm illogical and now I'm trolling?
I think you should get a dictionary one of these days because something is backwards here.[/QUOTE]
Or, you know, you're just thick.
[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22110256]Also, why should a human have to save the life of a cat that was too fucking stupid to not cross a street with a speeding car on it?[/QUOTE]
They don't have to, but they want to.
Honestly, it's only a selfish and stupid if they do in fact die trying to save a cat. OP took his chances, he got lucky and he's the hero of the day. No point in pondering alternatives.
[QUOTE=Parakon;22110326]Or, you know, you're just thick.[/QUOTE]
or a social outcast who doesn't like humans because they don't like him
[QUOTE=wewt!;22110349]They don't have to, but they want to.
Honestly, it's only a selfish and stupid if they do in fact die trying to save a cat. OP took his chances, he got lucky and he's the hero of the day. No point in pondering alternatives.[/QUOTE]
Except next time he sees an animal in danger in which deciding to act may risk his life he might consider it a little differently.
I bet his parents would be really appreciative that he got Mr. Jingles out of the way before getting run down by that truck.
[QUOTE=FreakyMe;22110284]No, they are not.
I have no fault with the OP's actions. He fell victim to impulse and I felt I would post in here warning him that he may want to get a handle on it.
Then people like you jump in making blanket statements that anyone who doesn't save the animal at the risk of their life is bad.
I only find fault with how unintelligent you are in the face of reasoned argument.[/QUOTE]
Warning someone on controlling their impulses is not a stupid idea. Saying that just because he did an impulsive action makes him stupid or anything else is just plain mean spirited.
And to the other half of your post: I couldn't find an arguement worth responding to due to all that tasty ad hominem.
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[QUOTE=FreakyMe;22110385]Except next time he sees an animal in danger in which deciding to act may risk his life he might consider it a little differently.
I bet his parents would be really appreciative that he got Mr. Jingles out of the way before getting run down by that truck.[/QUOTE]
Every situation is different and while it is more likely from him to try and save a cat next time, it's also less likely since in the end the car did hit him slightly.
IMHO Cats = something that, at best, cares about you as much as a brick wall. (A stray cat once bit my moms finger because we took it in.) Dogs = Something that cares about you. Proof:
[img]http://4gifs.com/gallery/d/43141-1/Dead_owner_dog.jpg[/img]
even if you're dead, it will still stay by your side. Cats would probably walk away without a second thought.
[QUOTE=wewt!;22110389]Warning someone on controlling their impulses is not a stupid idea. Saying that just because he did an impulsive action makes him stupid or anything else is just plain mean spirited.
And to the other half of your post: I couldn't find an arguement worth responding to due to all that tasty ad hominem.[/QUOTE]
That wasn't really ad hominem at all. I was stating the observation that your lack of intelligence makes you impervious to common venues of logical argumentation so therefore I should stop trying to convince you of anything and just wait until I am reading a news article of your death while trying to rescue a pet hamster from a demolition site.
[QUOTE=PivotDJ;22110418]IMHO Cats = something that, at best, cares about you as much as a brick wall. (A stray cat once bit my moms finger because we took it in.) Dogs = Something that cares about you. Proof:
*image*
even if you're dead, it will still stay by your side. Cats would probably walk away without a second thought.[/QUOTE]
I don't know about cats (I don't find it hard to believe that they aren't as emotionally attatched), I definetly agree that dogs can care about their owners. Anyone remember that dog that waited at the train station each day at the same time?
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[QUOTE=FreakyMe;22110445]That wasn't really ad hominem at all. I was stating the observation that your lack of intelligence makes you impervious to common venues of logical argumentation so therefore I should stop trying to convince you of anything and just wait until I am reading a news article of your death while trying to rescue a pet hamster from a demolition site.[/QUOTE]
lol
[QUOTE=PivotDJ;22110418]IMHO Cats = something that, at best, cares about you as much as a brick wall. (A stray cat once bit my moms finger because we took it in.) Dogs = Something that cares about you. Proof:
[img]http://4gifs.com/gallery/d/43141-1/Dead_owner_dog.jpg[/img]
even if you're dead, it will still stay by your side. Cats would probably walk away without a second thought.[/QUOTE]
Walk away? Sure, cats are loners by definition.
But I somehow doubt it wouldn't miss you in some capacity or other.
[QUOTE=BmB;22110530]Walk away? Sure, cats are loners by definition.
But I somehow doubt it wouldn't miss you in some capacity or other.[/QUOTE]
I meant "walk away" as in it has been with you for a long time, you die, and it just walks away.
Hearing about that cat biting my mother, I somehow doubt that entire post
also lrn2img_thumb
Guys BmB is actually 12
You gotta keep in mind that cats aren't human. They don't form relationships in the same way. So just walking away isn't necessarily a display of lack of emotion.
[QUOTE=Parakon;22110620]Guys BmB is actually 12[/QUOTE]
That is both true and completely relevant :wom:
[QUOTE=BmB;22110625]You gotta keep in mind that cats aren't human. They don't form relationships in the same way. So just walking away isn't necessarily a display of lack of emotion.[/QUOTE]
Hey guys keep in mind that wolverines aren't human. They don't form relationships in the same way. So just gnawing your face off isn't necessarily a display of aggression.
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Why form an irrational bond with something that will never return your feelings?
If a owner dies and the cat has been with it for, let's say, 3 years, wouldn't it have some type of relationship from being with the owner for so long to at least stay with his/her family? Your logic confuses me.
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ninjas
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i was replying to BmB
[QUOTE=FreakyMe;22110702]Hey guys keep in mind that wolverines aren't human. They don't form relationships in the same way. So just gnawing your face off isn't necessarily a display of aggression.[/quote]
I sorta agree with this, cats may not be showing a lack of affection by walking away, but occams razor suggests they do. I also don't know if a cat would walk away or not in the first place.
[quote]Why form an irrational bond with something that will never return your feelings?[/QUOTE]
Are you talking about cats or dogs? Dogs definetly do, cats I don't know.
Chances are it would keep coming back only to find that the person it is looking for is no longer around yes.
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Occams razor suggests none of the sort. Occams razor simply suggests you should make a minimum of assumptions. It doesn't even say that is alwaysthe correct course of action, but it does say that you will be more likely to get it right or at the least have a workable base theory. But since we're not really dealing with theories at all here it's completely irrelevant.
OP, you sound like a morally awesome guy. Have a heart.
You're awesome
[QUOTE=ItchyBarracuda;22100005]The owners didn't belong to an Oriental restaurant by any chance, did they?[/QUOTE]
I hear cats are a delicacy and they pay thousands of dollars for them.
You know, being with the same person and the same people everyday for 3 years (1095 days) would make me attached to the people I am with, why wouldn't it recognize the people the owner are friends/family with and stay with them?
I get the feeling you're younger then 12 BmB.
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