I almost died trying to save a cat's life - General

[QUOTE=Xylem;22099726]I was walking down the streets in the middle of night, and I see a little animal on the side of the concrete path, as I come closer to the animal I discover that it's a cat, I assumed that it had an owner because the house the cat was infront of had left the gate open which leads to the backyard. I went to go pat the little cute thing when suddenly a car in the distance starts beeping it's horn, the cat got scared and just ran in the middle of the road. The car was going over the speed limit and was just about a couple of metres away from the cat and then the cat just stayed in the same spot, I jumped infront of the cat trying prevent the car from hitting it. The man in the car floors the brake and the car hit me but luckily I only got bruises. I get up and see the man screaming at me and saying that I was trying to commit suicide, I tell him that I was just trying to prevent the cat from being run over, then, a woman and a man steps out of a house, who were the owners of the cat. I got up and told them what had happened. They were relieved that I was okay and that the cat was, they offered me $1000 for doing such a life-threatning thing but I refused to take the money. I soon found out that the cat's name was "AJ" which is the same name as mine. [B]EDIT 2:[/B] To all the people who think I'm stupid for saving the cat and turning down the money, I turned down the money because I thought it was just selfish to take hard-earned cash from an elderly couple. The cat was really close to them and they've had him for a couple of years. I really couldn't watch the cat get crushed, I had to risk my life to save it. I do not regret anything. tl;dr - Read the thread title[/QUOTE] Congratulations, you're now a certified dumbass!

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[QUOTE=PivotDJ;22110877]You know, being with the same person and the same people everyday for 3 years (1095 days) would make me attached to the people I am with, why wouldn't it recognize the people the owner are friends/family with and stay with them? I get the feeling you're younger then 12 BmB.[/QUOTE] Allow me to reiterate; cats do not form relationships the same way humans do. We're flock animals, they are lone wolves. You'd have to be a bird to get anymore alien than that. That's not to say you don't have a point, it might seek the company of other people too of course. But I can assure you it would find dissapointment of some sort in the lack of the person it is looking for.

[QUOTE=BmB;22110814]Chances are it would keep coming back only to find that the person it is looking for is no longer around yes. [editline]12:24AM[/editline] Occams razor suggests none of the sort. Occams razor simply suggests you should make a minimum of assumptions. It doesn't even say that is alwaysthe correct course of action, but it does say that you will be more likely to get it right or at the least have a workable base theory. But since we're not really dealing with theories at all here it's completely irrelevant.[/QUOTE] I meant that it's easier to associate walking away with lack of affection than otherwise.

BmB's gotta be trolling. I don't think such a stupid person can exist unless it was just trolling.

[QUOTE=PivotDJ;22110418]IMHO Cats = something that, at best, cares about you as much as a brick wall. (A stray cat once bit my moms finger because we took it in.) Dogs = Something that cares about you. Proof: -sad pics- even if you're dead, it will still stay by your side. Cats would probably walk away without a second thought.[/QUOTE] I haven't felt so sad since I found out about that dog from futurama. Agree xInfinity.

[QUOTE=BmB;22110966]Allow me to reiterate; cats do not form relationships the same way humans do. We're flock animals, they are lone wolves. You'd have to be a bird to get anymore alien than that. That's not to say you don't have a point, it might seek the company of other people too of course. But I can assure you it would find dissapointment of some sort in the lack of the person it is looking for.[/QUOTE] You aren't getting the set up here. I said the cat stayed with the same owner and his family. In the same house. Meaning that the cat would at least know and recognize the same people the owner, and essentially, the same family that the owner is with. Sure it would find disappointment (you spelt that wrong btw) in not finding its owner, but the same faces that the cat has been with for over 1,000 days would at least make the cat stay with them.

I was sort of assuming a bachelor garfield-ish man + cat thing from the get go you know.

[QUOTE=BmB;22111113]I was sort of assuming a bachelor garfield-ish man + cat thing from the get go you know.[/QUOTE] :downs:

[QUOTE=PivotDJ;22111090]You aren't getting the set up here. I said the cat stayed with the same owner and his family. In the same house. Meaning that the cat would at least know and recognize the same people the owner, and essentially, the same family that the owner is with. Sure it would find disappointment (you spelt that wrong btw) in not finding its owner, but the same faces that the cat has been with for over 1,000 days would at least make the cat stay with them.[/QUOTE] The cat recognized where food and pleasure was. It came back for more food and pleasure. When that is gone, it goes elsewhere for food and pleasure.

Even Garfield stayed with Jon. Your logic is "cat = loner = doesn't stay with same faces its known."

Try not feeding your outdoor cat for a day and see if it ever comes back.

[QUOTE=PivotDJ;22110950]holy page breaking post Strongbad[/QUOTE] I was unaware cutting the shit and stating your honest opinion of someone was something to be surprised about.

[QUOTE=FreakyMe;22111178]The cat recognized where food and pleasure was. It came back for more food and pleasure. When that is gone, it goes elsewhere for food and pleasure.[/QUOTE] I realize that. But the family should have given it food and pleasure along with the owner.

[QUOTE=PivotDJ;22111197]Even Garfield stayed with Jon. Your logic is "cat = loner = doesn't stay with same faces its known."[/QUOTE] I never said anything of the sort.

[QUOTE=FreakyMe;22111202]Try not feeding your outdoor cat for a day and see if it ever comes back.[/QUOTE] you're assuming that the family (and owner) doesn't feed the cat and lets it outside (where it could chase something away from the home and get lost)?

[QUOTE=FreakyMe;22111202]Try not feeding your outdoor cat for a day and see if it ever comes back.[/QUOTE] I actually had a cat that occasionally would disappear for weeks or months, it always came back. At one point it was even gone for almost a year. Came back.

Op, you are good people.

[QUOTE=BmB;22111230]I never said anything of the sort.[/QUOTE] [quote=BmB]We're flock animals, they are lone wolves[/quote] thats basically what you said I only came here to post my opinion of cats anyway.

:golfclap: You're a good man.

[QUOTE=BmB;22111265]I actually had a cat that occasionally would disappear for weeks or months, it always came back. At one point it was even gone for almost a year. Came back.[/QUOTE] That cat sure sounds like it was into your family /notrly

"They are lone wolves" doesn't translate into "they have no emotions", in fact if you were paying attention, thats the point I was making; they do have emotions, but they come to expression in a different way.

[QUOTE=BmB;22111351]"They are lone wolves" doesn't translate into "they have no emotions", in fact if you were paying attention, thats the point I was making; they do have emotions, but they come to expression in a different way.[/QUOTE] I never said they didn't have emotions.

[QUOTE=PivotDJ;22110418]even if you're dead, it will still stay by your side. Cats would probably walk away without a second thought.[/QUOTE] Certainly sounds like it to me, maybe I misread something here?

[QUOTE=BmB;22111418]Certainly sounds like it to me, maybe I misread something here?[/QUOTE] That doesn't say anything about emotions. What i was saying there is that a dog would most likely stay with the owner, then come under the owners friend/relative while a cat would feel sadness/grieving (most likely) but wouldn't come under x's wing because it isn't the owner, but x would probably keep them and feed it the exact same way as the owner did.

You're a hero in my books, Xylem. Assuming this is true of course.

Then why did you put "without a second thought" in there?

[QUOTE=BmB;22111572]Then why did you put "without a second thought" in there?[/QUOTE] That's my [b][i]opinion[/i][/b]. I never said "in reality" or did I put something in there that did not make it my opinion. I even put "IMHO" at the top.

[QUOTE=PivotDJ;22111246]you're assuming that the family (and owner) doesn't feed the cat and lets it outside (where it could chase something away from the home and get lost)?[/QUOTE] I think it would be rather cruel to keep such a wandering animal inside. It is the same to keep a tiger in a zoo pen, how depressing it is. Dogs really are not wanderers, they learn a territory and stick with it. Cats always roam, and in no way is your house big enough for it to be happy. [editline]04:02PM[/editline] I'd rather my cat be happy and die in the road wandering than die at 17 arthritic and in pain.

[QUOTE=FreakyMe;22111656]I think it would be rather cruel to keep such a wandering animal inside. It is the same to keep a tiger in a zoo pen, how depressing it is. Dogs really are not wanderers, they learn a territory and stick with it. Cats always roam, and in no way is your house big enough for it to be happy.[/QUOTE] I don't think it would be cruel if they fed it and kept it supervised outside. (during the day)