My Mom's Cooler Than Yours - General

[QUOTE=Luke510;21278099]no. any drug can really fuck your life up if you let it. but a lot of prescription pills are addictive(prescription opiates).[/QUOTE] So now you're saying that ALL drugs fuck people's lives up? c'mon now... Let's not get sensational.

[QUOTE=Dan The Man;21278252]So now you're saying that ALL drugs fuck people's lives up? c'mon now... Let's not get sensational.[/QUOTE] Any drug is capable of being abused. Man if you want to hear about some weak people, go to marijuana annonymous. There are weak minded individuals out there with a high tendency for addiction.

[QUOTE=Luke510;21278277]Any drug is capable of being abused. Man if you want to hear about some weak people, go to marijuana annonymous. There are weak minded individuals out there with a high tendency for addiction.[/QUOTE] So you went from saying: [QUOTE=Luke510;21272206]Opiates fuck up lives![/QUOTE] to [QUOTE=Luke510;21272206]All drugs fuck up lives[/QUOTE] Now you're agreeing with me again. This is a fucking drugs discussion forum, why are you telling us drugs fuck up lives if you let them? We all know this. We're not retarded.

[QUOTE=Dan The Man;21278252]So now you're saying that ALL drugs fuck people's lives up? c'mon now... Let's not get sensational.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Dan The Man;21278333]why are you telling us drugs fuck up lives if you let them? We all know this. We're not retarded.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Luke510;21278277]Any drug is capable of being abused. Man if you want to hear about some weak people, go to marijuana annonymous. There are weak minded individuals out there with a high tendency for addiction.[/QUOTE] Careful with that penicillin man, don't wanna get addicted and fuck up your life.

I fail to see your point. You're saying opiates fuck up everybody's life. Without prejudice. This isn't true. I know plenty of Opiate users including myself and I've not fucked up my life as far as I can tell. The disparity between my posts is that I say opiates do not fuck up lives unless you let them. You indicate they fuck your life up without fail. It's like saying people who cross roads get run over. It's not a statement you can say. It's illogical.

[QUOTE=Dan The Man;21278431]I fail to see your point. You're saying opiates fuck up everybody's life. Without prejudice. This isn't true. I know plenty of Opiate users including myself and I've not fucked up my life as far as I can tell. The disparity between my posts is that I say opiates do not fuck up lives unless you let them. You indicate they fuck your life up without fail. It's like saying people who cross roads get run over. It's not a statement you can say. It's illogical.[/QUOTE] I was saying it can fuck up your life. i've done vics. i've done oxys. I know people who've been hardcore addicted to oxys and i've went to many drug addiction meetings where people come in with their sob stories, most of them consisting of prescription pills, alcohol, weed etc. It sounded like you were saying "oh no it can never be abused" when people abuse the most retarded drugs, like a guy came in who was abusing prescription and otc cough medicine. that's all he did. and he sounded fucked up mentally. people are weak. I think we just had a communication problem. my main point is any drug can get someone addicted. Just because it's easier to get addicted to coke, or meth, it depends on the person and how strong they are and how responsible they are. There's people that can just take some once in a while and there are others who have addictive personalities and won't put it down. There's people who know when to quit and there's people who don't. and I never said opiates WILL DEFINITELY 100% FUCK UP your life. I said it fucks up lives. [editline]02:16AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Meader;21278427]Careful with that penicillin man, don't wanna get addicted and fuck up your life.[/QUOTE] im so high off dis tylenol bro

[QUOTE=Luke510;21278547]I was saying it can fuck up your life. i've done vics. i've done oxys. I know people who've been hardcore addicted to oxys and i've went to many drug addiction meetings where people come in with their sob stories, most of them consisting of prescription pills, alcohol, weed etc. It sounded like you were saying "oh no it can never be abused" when people abuse the most retarded drugs, like a guy came in who was abusing prescription and otc cough medicine. that's all he did. and he sounded fucked up mentally. people are weak. I think we just had a communication problem. my main point is any drug can get someone addicted. Just because it's easier to get addicted to coke, or meth, it depends on the person and how strong they are and how responsible they are. There's people that can just take some once in a while and there are others who have addictive personalities and won't put it down. There's people who know when to quit and there's people who don't. and I never said opiates WILL DEFINITELY 100% FUCK UP your life. I said it fucks up lives. [editline]02:16AM[/editline] im so high off dis tylenol bro[/QUOTE] I'm not normally argumentitive but you're basically adding nothing to the drugs forum by telling us that any drug can ruin people's lives if they're weak. This is obvious to me.

[QUOTE=Dan The Man;21269742] Silverhammer, why do you just keep posting stupid generalized remarks in threads? You could say "alcohol fucks up lives", it fucks up way more than coke, but you don't say that if someone says they gave their daughter a WKD. [/QUOTE] Uhmmmm fuck off? I can say whatever I please. and don't even try to tell me what's worse.

[QUOTE=Dan The Man;21297404]I'm not normally argumentitive but you're basically adding nothing to the drugs forum by telling us that any drug can ruin people's lives if they're weak. This is obvious to me.[/QUOTE] I'm not normally argumentitive but you're basically adding nothing to the drugs forum by telling me that i'm basically adding nothing to the drugs forum by saying that any drug can ruin people's lives if they're weak. :psyboom:

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[QUOTE=Luke510;21297574]I'm not normally argumentitive but you're basically adding nothing to the drugs forum by telling me that i'm basically adding nothing to the drugs forum by saying that any drug can ruin people's lives if they're weak. :psyboom:[/QUOTE] So your point was literally that any drug that can fuck up lives? Why pick on opiates? Why not pick on weed? Drug elitism is irritating as fuck. If you want to be condescending towards people for their use of drugs, you're in the wrong place. I don't understand what your point was. I'm not trying to rile you, but I question your motives in picking on opiates when they're actually rather safe long-term. People get addicted, but that's not the drug's fault. Nicotine is stipulated to be more addictive than Heroin, that kills a HUGE amount of people, why not use that as an example? My mum's boyfriend was on a £100 a day Heroin habit and when he withdrew the second time he said he could never give up ciggies, but could give up Heroin. Go figure. [editline]01:06AM[/editline] [QUOTE=SilverHammer;21297481]Uhmmmm fuck off? I can say whatever I please. and don't even try to tell me what's worse.[/QUOTE] Never said Alcohol was worse. But you cannot argue against my point that alcohol ruins more lives. The social acceptance of the drug doesn't help, but it's harmful acutely, chronically and is addictive. All the things that you don't want from a commonly abused substance.

[QUOTE=Dan The Man;21297823]So your point was literally that any drug that can fuck up lives? Why pick on opiates? Why not pick on weed? Drug elitism is irritating as fuck. If you want to be condescending towards people for their use of drugs, you're in the wrong place. I don't understand what your point was. I'm not trying to rile you, but I question your motives in picking on opiates when they're actually rather safe long-term. People get addicted, but that's not the drug's fault. Nicotine is stipulated to be more addictive than Heroin, that kills a HUGE amount of people, why not use that as an example? My mum's boyfriend was on a £100 a day Heroin habit and when he withdrew the second time he said he could never give up ciggies, but could give up Heroin. Go figure. [editline]01:06AM[/editline] Never said Alcohol was worse. But you cannot argue against my point that alcohol ruins more lives. The social acceptance of the drug doesn't help, but it's harmful acutely, chronically and is addictive. All the things that you don't want from a commonly abused substance.[/QUOTE] dude Dan, Luke wasn't really generalizing. He's just stating that anything really has the potential to be addictive. He's not saying [I]it is[/I], he's saying [I]it could[/I].

[QUOTE=Dan The Man;21297823]So your point was literally that any drug that can fuck up lives? Why pick on opiates? Why not pick on weed? Drug elitism is irritating as fuck. If you want to be condescending towards people for their use of drugs, you're in the wrong place. I don't understand what your point was. I'm not trying to rile you, but I question your motives in picking on opiates when they're actually rather safe long-term. People get addicted, but that's not the drug's fault. Nicotine is stipulated to be more addictive than Heroin, that kills a HUGE amount of people, why not use that as an example? My mum's boyfriend was on a £100 a day Heroin habit and when he withdrew the second time he said he could never give up ciggies, but could give up Heroin. Go figure.[/QUOTE] Look man. I saw silverhammer saying coke fucks up lives, so I just said another drug that could fuck up lives. I don't care if you use any drug from weed to meth, i'm not judgemental. Chill. [editline]12:13AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Aaronn;21297938]dude Dan, Luke wasn't really generalizing. He's just stating that anything really has the potential to be addictive. He's not saying [I]it is[/I], he's saying [I]it could[/I].[/QUOTE] pretty much. too blazed to be cohesive.

Oh right I see. I thought your post was unrelated. I can understand your point now. Apologies. Were you just mocking Silverhammer's silly quote then?

Pretty much.

[QUOTE=Aaronn;21297938]dude Dan, Luke wasn't really generalizing. He's just stating that anything really has the potential to be addictive. He's not saying [I]it is[/I], he's saying [I]it could[/I].[/QUOTE] It's just reading "Opiates fuck up lives." on it's own irritated me. I inferred that he was just spreading redundant propaganda. I now realise he was just highlighting the pointlessness of saying that drugs fuck up lives. Or at least that's what I've inferred. [editline]01:35AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Luke510;21298255]Pretty much.[/QUOTE] Good good. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

[QUOTE=Dan The Man;21297823] Never said Alcohol was worse. But you cannot argue against my point that alcohol ruins more lives. The social acceptance of the drug doesn't help, but it's harmful acutely, chronically and is addictive. All the things that you don't want from a commonly abused substance.[/QUOTE] Argue against? lol I only have one parent because of the wonder tonic I know all about alcohol abuse.

[QUOTE=SilverHammer;21297481]Uhmmmm fuck off? I can say whatever I please. and don't even try to tell me what's worse.[/QUOTE] I know you can say what you please. It's just it's not really very informative for you to say coke fucks up lives. I agree it does, but what are your arguments against it? What makes it worse than other drugs? That's the sort of thing I expect in a serious discussion about a serious subject. Obesity fucks up lives. Probably more than drugs. I don't dislike you SilverHammer, I don't want any animosity with ANYONE here. I like you guys (except frank g) and feel as though we actually have quite a strong repore with one another so let's leave this here. I'm also sorry to hear about your family drinking problems. My mum has a drinking problem and I know how hard it can be to deal with it. Anyway. to try and bring this back on topic. My mum is FAIRLY cool with drugs and knows I have MDAI but it's clear she's quite upset I'm using it. I do feel bad about using it but to be honest she's had a huge track record of drug abuse her entire life so it's hypocrisy for her to preach me, and she understands that. Thankfully.

I'm not arguing against it did you read that part?? All I said was coke fucks up lives. lol

[QUOTE=SilverHammer;21301892]I'm not arguing against it did you read that part?? All I said was coke fucks up lives. lol[/QUOTE] That's like me saying cancer kills people. It's a completely redundant statement to make. Everybody KNOWS this. If you don't quantify your statements people get confused. The majority of Cocaine users don't abuse it and it's not the worst drug out there either. If anything, Cigarettes fuck up a lot of families. My dad has lung cancer and smoked like a chimney. I can't imagine the guilt he feels for causing his own death because of stubbornness. His new family are going to find it hard and for this very reason, I find claims that Cocaine and Opiates "fuck up people's lives" disproportionate when compared to some of the more commonly used drugs. Let me just clarify I have no problem with you on a personal level. I find most of your posts interesting but disagreements are almost always progressive. If you never disagreed with people then the star wars films would have ALL been like episode 1.

Well, sorry I make redundant statements? I'll try to explain every little detail of my opinion from now on. because i'm sure everyone cares.

It's just a pet hate of mine. Unsubstantiated blanket statements piss me off royally. It's where prejudices are born and it doesn't do anybody any good. It's no worry anyway, I'm not really an argumentative person.

cocaine is not a drug

I'm in Michigan. Give me some prease.

I'd agree alcohol is fucked up drug. It makes you ignorant, slow and causes so many cars accidents. I could drive better on 2C-I. My two friends crashed into tree because of it. Both survived, but one has massive earbleeding, and memory loss for 30 minutes. Guess what, the driver was drunk a bit, and he was all fine. Nothing happened to him. But passenger, he could almost lost his head.

I don't see why people drive shitfaced. I just feel so disfunctional the LAST thing i'd do is attempt to drive a motor vehicle.

My half sister has a medical card, Id have her hit yall up but shes already got a medical dude out in Lansing that delivers.

[QUOTE=jonashappy;21326470]My half sister has a medical card, Id have her hit yall up but shes already got a medical dude out in Lansing that delivers.[/QUOTE] But does he have delicious edibles?