Creative Work That Doesn't Deserve A Thread - Detlef's Detlef edition
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[QUOTE=k00lwhip;29428978]how incredibly narcissistic[/QUOTE]
So it's narcissistic every time an artist does a self-portrait?
Last year I did nothing but self-portraits for months. :v:
thought the same, maybe remove them both and make it a simple scene?
the angle of the shadows is wrong
[editline]27th April 2011[/editline]
if that's a sun
[QUOTE=Xephio;29461790][img_thumb]http://gyazo.com/f74be3e08b4fdab2c5b67355e96ff44e.png[/img_thumb]
critique anyone?[/QUOTE]
poorly composed, flat values, wrong perspective and light doesn't work that way.
I strongly suggest you starting doing photostudies, they help alot
I love the way you made the sun work like a close spotlight.
The sun is pretty fucking far from earth itself. The difference between 3-4 meters down on earth does not make a difference where the light falls.
photostudies it is.
[QUOTE=T.F.W.O.;29457723][img_thumb]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20799748/kidneythieves_concert_flyer2.jpg[/img_thumb]
Trying a new design. Please excuse the image quality, I cannot find any high res photos of the band.[/QUOTE]
use the same photo, just don't crop it in so much
[img_thumb]http://kidneythieves.com/wp-content/gallery/kidneythieves/dean-karr.jpg[/img_thumb]
might wanna do some level altering on it too, it's a bit flat/blue at the moment
[img]http://i.cubeupload.com/GoFVrp.png[/img]
I'm planning on doing the shading in black and white and then colouring it.
It's looks a bit sloppy right now, though. Any help? I don't even know if the shading -> colouring thing is the right way to go.
I just sketched my great grandfather just a few minutes ago.
[media]http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu119/ryanwarguy/Benjisketch.png[/media]
Here's the ref
[media]http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu119/ryanwarguy/Benjiref.png[/media]
Critique please.
The hat is so messed up.
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"UR RATING EVERYONE!!"
[QUOTE=Detlef;29463276]:3[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=wewt!;29463203][img_thumb]http://i.cubeupload.com/GoFVrp.png[/img_thumb]
I'm planning on doing the shading in black and white and then colouring it.
It's looks a bit sloppy right now, though. Any help? I don't even know if the shading -> colouring thing is the right way to go.[/QUOTE]
To be honest you'd be better off getting proportions down before doing any shading or coloring.
The lines are really scribbly and at first glance it's a bit awkward to immediately recognize it as a girl (most likely just me), the eyes are rather dead and creepy looking, everything beyond her neck turns into a mess.'
maybe it'll look nicer when finished but at the moment it's not really that good.
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Damn that's creepy
[QUOTE=Oblivious1;29463205]I just sketched my great grandfather just a few minutes ago.
[media]http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu119/ryanwarguy/Benjisketch.png[/media]
Here's the ref
[media]http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu119/ryanwarguy/Benjiref.png[/media]
Critique please.[/QUOTE]
You should draw the frame and values first, then focus on the specific facial features like the eyes, mouth and nose.
[QUOTE=Back_Slash;29463232]The hat is so messed up.[/QUOTE]
Ok, I re-did the hat and hopefully at the same time, not damage the quality of the sketch.
[media]http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu119/ryanwarguy/Benjisketch-1.png[/media]
[QUOTE=Ehanced_AI;29463310]To be honest you'd be better off getting proportions down before doing any shading or coloring.
The lines are really scribbly and at first glance it's a bit awkward to immediately recognize it as a girl (most likely just me), the eyes are rather dead and creepy looking, everything beyond her neck turns into a mess.'
maybe it'll look nicer when finished but at the moment it's not really that good.[/QUOTE]
Cool, I have the shading on a separate layer, I can just trash that and fix the proportions. Can you be more specific on what's up with her proportions?
Hold on, did a quick draw over. How's this? (eyes are really lady gaga, but the face silhouette is what I focused on at the moment)
[IMG]http://i.cubeupload.com/1JEPrc.png[/IMG]
Thanks for your help, by the way :buddy:
[QUOTE=wewt!;29463319]You should draw the frame and values first, then focus on the specific facial features like the eyes, mouth and nose.[/QUOTE]
I did.
study head anatomy.
study it alot
[editline]27th April 2011[/editline]
goes for both of you
[QUOTE=wewt!;29463333]Cool, I have the shading on a separate layer, I can just trash that and fix the proportions. Can you be more specific on what's up with her proportions?[/QUOTE]
Most I can say is "it looks off", you could always go look at some faces and compare.
I'm horrible at being specific
[QUOTE=Detlef;29463367]study head anatomy.
study it alot
[editline]27th April 2011[/editline]
goes for both of you[/QUOTE]
So... Nothing specific?
Really? I'd like to know which part I got wrong.
[QUOTE=Detlef;29463367]study head anatomy.
study it alot
[editline]27th April 2011[/editline]
goes for both of you[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Oblivious1;29463329]Ok, I re-did the hat and hopefully at the same time, not damage the quality of the sketch.
[media]http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu119/ryanwarguy/Benjisketch-1.png[/media][/QUOTE]
I'm going to be very frank with you, because sometimes people just don't get told the truth about their work.
It's pretty bad. Look at it yourself and ask, does this accurately represent a person?
I think you know that just about everything is off, and while it's great that you tried, I just think it's important to know just how much improving you need to do.
Just like everybody else says in the thread, you will need to do a lot of study. Particularly anatomy. Study the way the human body works, the muscles, the bones. Just get a good grasp of what you're drawing before you just doodle a buncha lines and hope it looks human.
And don't post incremental updates of your work here. Go off and work on it yourself. And if you want to get good, don't stop. And when you know you've improved through all of your study, you should come and post some of it.
But for now, people are just going to get mad and frustrated at you for posting the same horrible drawing over and over, knowing there's no way you can improve it. Don't keep altering your drawings to be perfect, they never will be. Just keep drawing new things. Do it again and again, move on from one thing to another.
and good luck
[QUOTE=Ehanced_AI;29463399]You could try this guy, helped me a lot
[media]http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs40/f/2009/018/e/3/Face_Tutorial_by_alexds1.jpg[/media]
Really though just practice.[/QUOTE]
stylized head anatomy :/
[editline]27th April 2011[/editline]
not good, they should do some loomis studies
[QUOTE=Ehanced_AI;29463399]You could try this guy, helped me a lot
[media]http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs40/f/2009/018/e/3/Face_Tutorial_by_alexds1.jpg[/media]
Really though just practice.[/QUOTE]
This shit is really dumb. Don't STUDY cartoon anatomy.
the whole idea is to fully grasp real human anatomy, and from there, construct your own cartoon style. Not copy off someone elses and then still have no idea how to draw a real person.
ok, bad advice, earlier in the last thread kevlar jens posted a link to download loomis' book on head anatomy, i don't know where but I could try finding that again, that helped more.
[editline]27th April 2011[/editline]
Got it
[url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1050638-Creative-Work-That-Doesn-t-Deserve-A-Thread-V6-lt-3v3ryb0dy-Hypocrite-Critiques-Edition-gt?p=29243801&viewfull=1#post29243801[/url]
[quote] well, for a start get your proportions right
here download this book by Andrew Loomis
[url]http://www.alexhays.com/loomis/[/url]
also be confident with your strokes
use long ones
not tons of small ones
+ [url]http://www.theartofanatomy.com/phpBB...cd7b81e544786c[/url]
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