[QUOTE=milan755;51933538]I am appalled by this game's looks. I don't even remembering the expressions being that bad in Mass Effect 1-3, but it's been a while so I can't say for sure. I do remember some character's facial expressions being a lot worse than others (like Jacob) but that's about it. Was everything this bad in Mass Effect 1-3? I don't remember anyone looking this awful, I actually liked a lot of the looks of the characters. Can someone please jog my memory? It's been a while since I've played the whole series through.[/QUOTE]
They're all aging and everything is a bit wooden, voice acting ranges from gaming's best to gaming's worst and so does script writing in general. I'd say relative to to the time the previous games weren't nearly as worrying as this one.
[QUOTE=kariko;51933569]Damn, how the hell does a brand new game look like Oblivion facial animations? :v:[/QUOTE]
And I would say Oblivion's are [I]still[/I] better. At least characters in Oblivion can look angry, even only mildly so.
[QUOTE=milan755;51933538]I am appalled by this game's looks. I don't even remembering the expressions being that bad in Mass Effect 1-3, but it's been a while so I can't say for sure. I do remember some character's facial expressions being a lot worse than others (like Jacob) but that's about it. Was everything this bad in Mass Effect 1-3? I don't remember anyone looking this awful, I actually liked a lot of the looks of the characters. Can someone please jog my memory? It's been a while since I've played the whole series through.[/QUOTE]
I'm replaying Mass Effect right now and the facial animation is MUCH better than seen in that video. For one people actually move their eyes when talking.
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;51934729]I'm replaying Mass Effect right now and the facial animation is MUCH better than seen in that video. For one people actually move their eyes when talking.[/QUOTE]
The thing is that people in ME:A are moving their eyes, and blinking, and technically the lip sync is there. The problem is that they're not really contorting their mouths or their eyebrows for any sort of emotion. Everything is said as if everyone has the inability to emote whatsoever. They just go through the mouth motions and blink regardless of their tone, while staring blankly into space with the upper half of their faces almost entirely static. Something about the animations of ME:A in general are just.. off, like the positioning problems, the blatant lack of fucks given for clipping (the bartender's completely open hands, or the turian's eyes), the female Ryder's sheer animation fuck-ups in general, everyone dully standing around like no one could be bothered to even motion capture something for the random NPCs we've seen, and so forth.
We all know Bioware was never the best with their animations, but somehow they've gotten worse. I thought The Old Republic had some bad cutscene animations, and I thought Dragon Age Inquisition had its quirks, but bloody hell.
[QUOTE=Zeos;51928874][img]http://i.imgur.com/Fo4VdpX.gif[/img]
[img]http://i.giphy.com/cjv68i2E2Sjfy.gif[/img]
ME1 had better facial movements. The fuck is going on with this game?????[/QUOTE]
It is quite something that HL2's face animations stand up as amazing to this day thanks to stuff like this.
You ever wonder if they lost some key staff or something? Usually new hires can be trained up to baseline competency, but talent and style in these kinds of artistic endeavors probably takes time to develop...
Jesus fucking CHrist, this is making Fallout 4's animations look good. Everyone looks like they've seen some shit.
Apparently the recommended specs are only for 30 fps??
[QUOTE=Chonch;51929009]I still find it fucking unbelievable that pre-ME3 galactic civilization could find the time or resources to build up a single goddamn Nexus, let alone three or four, with a comparable quantity and quality of technology found on the [I]Citadel[/I].[/QUOTE]
Yeah it would have made sense if it was after ME3. Like what they build this shit and then go backwards with their tech.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/RLx54nY.png[/img]
With the makeup the mass effect chick looks like one of those shitty 'BETTER FEMALES' mods for fallout/skyrim
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;51935151][t]http://i.imgur.com/RLx54nY.png[/t][/QUOTE]
I would rate this 'Sad', if I could.
Actually related to Witcher 3, I think everyone who's ever played it or even seen some videos of it can confirm that the animations and, in general, the conversations seem much more lively, believable and just better.
Well not many know that those weren't even manually made. It's all just an algorithm that sets the base, minimal animations which lay the foundations for each scene. Animator and designers then use animation libraries to craft the whole thing to a finalized state.
What I'm sure Bioware did here is just drop all conversation scenes straight after their algorithm and called it a day.
[QUOTE=Zeos;51928874][IMG]http://i.giphy.com/cjv68i2E2Sjfy.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]
BABABABABABUBUBU
[QUOTE=Zeos;51928874][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Fo4VdpX.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]
WOMP WOMP
She looks like a fish.
[QUOTE=Zeos;51928874][img]http://i.imgur.com/Fo4VdpX.gif[/img][/QUOTE]
I just keep hearing NOOT NOOT
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I thought the bartender had glitched with only the mouth moving until she moved her arms.
[QUOTE=froztshock;51935026][B]You ever wonder if they lost some key staff or something?[/B] Usually new hires can be trained up to baseline competency, but talent and style in these kinds of artistic endeavors probably takes time to develop...[/QUOTE]
They have, and they've been replacing their experienced staff with complete amateurs who are better known for their views on social justice than their ability with coding or basic story structure. Like, outrage on twitter aside, check out the portfolios of some of these people.
[QUOTE=Hidole555;51933244]Forget Witcher 3, it'd be more fair to compare this with the potato faces of Oblivion.
[video=youtube;jq9TnI7ssTU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq9TnI7ssTU[/video][/QUOTE]
Off-topic, but I remember when Oblivion was one of the best looking games I'd ever seen
[editline]9th March 2017[/editline]
Then again the same goes for both Quake and Half-Life
[QUOTE=Rixxz2;51935525]Off-topic, but I remember when Oblivion was one of the best looking games I'd ever seen
[editline]9th March 2017[/editline]
Then again the same goes for both Quake and Half-Life[/QUOTE]
As industry standards change, so do yours. I still think Oblivion is quite pretty, when you're not looking at the writhing spuds the unhumans at Bethesda thought resembled human faces.
[QUOTE=eatdembeanz;51935656]As industry standards change, so do yours. I still think Oblivion is quite pretty, when you're not looking at the writhing spuds the unhumans at Bethesda thought resembled human faces.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, back in the day I didn't even notice the horrific tuber men that had seemingly taken over cyrodiil, but now it's kinda the elephant in the room.
I think part of it was also how I, as someone who had never played morrowind, was completely and utterly blown away by the idea of an open world game that was that detailed and expansive. I'd never played a game like that in my life.
This kills my soul a little... I feel like this is going to be a massive train wreck because it was rushed by EA
Also the new race (the Kett, I think ?) look goofy as fuck
[img]https://68.media.tumblr.com/6b970d2b8bdc88c28f671ebc6bb48e30/tumblr_omim565jko1vm1b8uo3_1280.png[/img]
Those are angarans
No, those are retarded cave trolls. Especially the female (?) one, it looks fucked, like if someone made a model for it with shoulders narrower than the male one and then stuck it onto the same skeleton base.
[QUOTE=gudman;51936053]No, those are retarded cave trolls. Especially the female (?) one, it looks fucked, like if someone made a model for it with shoulders narrower than the male one and then stuck it onto the same skeleton base.[/QUOTE]
Don't forget botox lips.
[QUOTE=Combine 177;51936068]Don't forget botox lips.[/QUOTE]
That's how you know they're women!
[QUOTE=Combine 177;51936068]Don't forget botox lips.[/QUOTE]
Its face looks like someone hit it with a sledgehammer and it caved in, lips don't make it any more offputting.
I'm probably being speciesist as fuck here.
they gave females bigger heads, broader shoulders, but skinnier bodies and it just looks wrong when you put the two genders next to eachother
in general she just looks fucked. this is what happens when you design yet another humanoid alien species but run out of ideas on how to make them different from humans.
the fact of the matter is, everyone that had any talent or experience left bioware long ago. [url=http://archive.is/Zxahb]they hired a bunch of nobody losers that admit they haven't coded for three years before being hired for this project[/url]. no wonder nobody can model, animate, write, or design anything good.
[QUOTE=TheJoey;51936136]
the fact of the matter is, everyone that had any talent or experience left bioware long ago. [url=http://archive.is/Zxahb]they hired a bunch of nobody losers that admit they haven't coded for three years before being hired for this project[/url]. no wonder nobody can model, animate, write, or design anything good.[/QUOTE]
[quote]There’s no short answer. There are two major facets—there’s the editing to make words pretty, including [b]dialogue[/b], [b]marketing materials[/b], voice-over, and internal work. The other side is production, as we interface between writers and localization teams.[/quote]
Well afraid to say, you're pretty shit at your job, Karin. Is this how AAA games are made now?
[QUOTE=Rossy167;51933769]They're all aging and everything is a bit wooden, voice acting ranges from gaming's best to gaming's worst and so does script writing in general. I'd say relative to to the time the previous games weren't nearly as worrying as this one.[/QUOTE]
I recently started playing ME2 again, and you're spot on. The game itself has not aged well, but some of the voice acting is phenomenal, like Martin Sheen kills it as the Illusive Man, and Mordin is so good I find myself wanting more. Obviously though, a lot of the minor characters aren't all that great, and in the case of the Batarians, they are almost all pretty bad/boring.
Having said all that, considering the previous critically acclaimed games have aged so poorly and are still incredibly fun to play through, I honestly believe ME4 will be great regardless of its issues in animations and voice acting.
I don't mean to shit on this too hard before release but I hope Bioware get called out hard for this because this is just unacceptable.
I don't want to shill too hard but the Witcher 3 raised the bar and Bioware clearly don't have the talent to match it.
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