[QUOTE=Kopimi;40850478]not what im saying tho, i just mean i dont see why people aggressively complain about electronic producers "pressing play" as though it makes them a poor artist / disingenuous performer? its not like they have many options available (aside from a limited live reconstruction which lots of people already do), and as long as fans are going and having fun at the show i dont see why people like cl0ck and don are so adamant about "pressing play" being a bad thing.[/QUOTE]
i was just saying that's what i took from the song/video and what i agree with haha not talking about your post
is this how you pull attention to an otherwise boring and inoffensive song
I like the crackers more.
[IMG]http://carlaspeaks.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/goldfish-hand.jpg[/IMG]
I liked the song, Goldfish are pretty great
[video=youtube;7-tNUur2YoU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-tNUur2YoU[/video]
That was a very pretentious video, but I like the song and I like Goldfish.
Thanks for introducing me to this band, love almost everything I've heard so far
saw goldfish live in a very small venue a few months ago, they sample and play instruments live, like the bass, keyboard, flute and saxophone, which is awesome.
they barely ever play in the US, luckily I saw them in Boston, so see them if you can!
They are also super laid back and nice
[editline]31st May 2013[/editline]
my favorite one of theirs:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSBIEMonruE[/media]
This reminds me too much of Ray William Johnson's cartoon band.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;40850433]cool a shit music video for a shit song with a hyper-pretentious "REMEMBER WHEN MUSIC WAS REAL? LIKE IF YOU REMEMBER ZEPPELIN" message that completely oversimplifies modern music production
if you think making electronic music is just pushing a button you're really really naive / stupid and if you're complaining about live music being "push play" you're also stupid.
a. if you think all electronic artists just "press play" because deadmau5 said so you're delusional or haven't seen any live music. lots of electronic artists do a live remix of the track or construct it live, some will even perform the track with a live band
b. if you're honestly upset by your favorite electronic artist having to push play at a live show, dont go? who cares? if you're having fun at the show, dancing around with friends and listening to your favorite music live with a bunch of people does it really make a difference whether or not someone on stage misses a beat or plays the wrong chord?[/QUOTE]
hey guys we've got three and a half minutes of song and need a cute video to go with it, how about we do an informative "how it's made" video of skrillex arranging sample charts in a factually accurate manner with explanations as to what he's doing and how it all comes together in a final show
[QUOTE=Glitchman;40851440]saw goldfish live in a very small venue a few months ago, they sample and play instruments live, like the bass, keyboard, flute and saxophone, which is awesome.
they barely ever play in the US, luckily I saw them in Boston, so see them if you can!
They are also super laid back and nice
[editline]31st May 2013[/editline]
my favorite one of theirs:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSBIEMonruE[/media][/QUOTE]
Boston? Shit I didn't know they'd come here, I'm like an hour away from Boston!
I gotta keep an eye out now! Hope they come back up here again, would LOVE to see them live.
[editline]31st May 2013[/editline]
OH WAIT RIGH UHHHHH
THIS SONG IS UH..... PRETNETIJOUS AND... B-BADDDDDD.
Yeah.
Do I fit in now?
honestly if you're taking a video like this as serious commentary on the state of electronic music you're not really watching it right. I mean sure the message is there but it's played as a joke
Also if you enjoyed this song (or even if you didn't) you should listen to every single other goldfish song, starting with the ones already posted
[editline]31st May 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=The Janitor;40851861]This reminds me too much of Ray William Johnson's cartoon band.[/QUOTE]
because it's a music video that's a cartoon?
does Gorillaz remind you of RWJ's cartoon band too?
Seriously, Goldfish videos are all very lighthearted, its not like they're making a true, serious statement here.
I can see how they would be taken as such by someone who hasn't seen any of their other videos, if for some reason the fact that it's a cute little animation didn't make them think that it wasn't entirely serious
[QUOTE=daijitsu;40849793]I should add to the credit of 'button pushing'
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vC5TsSyNjU[/media]
but skill, effort and genre still isn't the point of the generic button pushing by electronic music idols in the music video. at all.[/QUOTE]
the difference is making it on a computer in fruity loops or something similar without any real beat and pressing a button to make it live VS actually physically playing it
and thats more mashing skillfully then pressing 1 button over and over :v:
I'm sorry but flicking your guitar and lip syncing, and not even actually playing is kind of dishearting to see as well and just as bad as some dude simply playing the music rather than actually physically remaking most of it infront of everyone. It's meant to be live. [B]Fucking play the music.[/B]
This band's sound is super catchy, why haven't I head of them before?
Goldfish also do remix albums of some of their songs so I really don't think they're genuine about this video.
[QUOTE=daijitsu;40852077]hey guys we've got three and a half minutes of song and need a cute video to go with it, how about we do an informative "how it's made" video of skrillex arranging sample charts in a factually accurate manner with explanations as to what he's doing and how it all comes together in a final show[/QUOTE]
haha yes you've truly zinged me with that one
are you saying they aren't intentionally painting popular electronic producers like deadmau5 and skrillex in a negative light by literally showing them pushing buttons and by having the DJ be shown to be a "fraud" for not playing live instruments? yeah its a cute video but you're being intentionally thick if you're going to pretend they didn't intentionally broadcast the message that electronic music made without live instruments is easy / a scam
[editline]31st May 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=J!NX;40852731]the difference is making it on a computer in fruity loops or something similar without any real beat and pressing a button to make it live VS actually physically playing it
and thats more mashing skillfully then pressing 1 button over and over :v:
I'm sorry but flicking your guitar and lip syncing, and not even actually playing is kind of dishearting to see as well and just as bad as some dude simply playing the music rather than actually physically remaking most of it infront of everyone. It's meant to be live. [B]Fucking play the music.[/B][/QUOTE]
this may shock you but lots of electronic artists sequence their instruments live rather than painting out notes on a piano roll
which means they set a metronome and record themselves playing the synthesizer or a drum machine and layer those elements on top of eachother, performing each bit of the song
if people enjoy an artist just pressing play and putting on a good light show so they can dance with their friends, or (more likely) doing a live remix of the track, why are you so ridiculously adamant about people needing to reconstruct their tracks live? what option do they have? do you want them to hire a live band to play each of the 6 synthesizer tracks they sequenced, and bring in a live drummer with an electronic kit or something? if people are having fun at the show who cares honestly
[QUOTE=Zombie man70;40848354]So, what you're saying is you would pay for a ticket to watch someone hit a play button?[/QUOTE]
generally speaking, live mixes are vastly vastly different than album content, so yeah, i probably would because do you pay money to go see someone hit play in a movie theater? same concept.
[QUOTE=FFStudios;40858606]generally speaking, live mixes are vastly vastly different than album content, so yeah, i probably would because do you pay money to go see someone hit play in a movie theater? same concept.[/QUOTE]
No it isn't. A movie has much more production in it and you pay the see it because you can't watch it elsewhere. I'd be pissed if I paid money to see a person perform live and all they would do is dance around and not actually perform the song, but a pre recorded version of it that you could just listen to at home.
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;40858739]No it isn't. A movie has much more production in it and you pay the see it because you can't watch it elsewhere. I'd be pissed if I paid money to see a person perform live and all they would do is dance around and not actually perform the song, but a pre recorded version of it that you could just listen to at home.[/QUOTE]
cool? so then don't go and let everyone else have a great time dancing around to their fav music with friends
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;40858739]No it isn't. A movie has much more production in it and you pay the see it because you can't watch it elsewhere. I'd be pissed if I paid money to see a person perform live and all they would do is dance around and not actually perform the song, but a pre recorded version of it that you could just listen to at home.[/QUOTE]
there is a literal ton of music that couldn't even possibly be reproduced live on spot
why do you care so much if someone wants to go see their favourite artist presenting their music to a lively crowd that are enjoying themselves
[editline]1st June 2013[/editline]
No one is forcing you to buy the ticket, if you want to be a sour prick then go ahead and stay at home
somebody needs to alert all the people that thought they had a good time at live electronic shows and inform them that they were duped
Another misconception that people are making in this thread is that electronic artists (using Deadmau5 and Skrillex as an example here) have gigs in the same format as a band, i.e they play their own music. I don't think any of you understand what DJ'ing is. Electronic artists don't just go into a club and and press play on their latest album, heck the majority of them don't even DJ their own music. I don't think Deadmau5 or Skrillex have ever done a live set (understandable because the majority of the time there aren't any "real" instruments).
However, there are electronic artists like Disclosure and Rudimental most recently and of course older acts like Pendulum and Chase & Status that do play live and do a very good job of it.
[media][URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci4LluhefS4[/URL][/media]
Original, electronically pre-produced version: [URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oABEGc8Dus0[/URL]
Basically the argument in this thread boils down to people that don't follow electronic music, is all.
People always get so pissy about electronic music. Who cares how it's made or performed; all that matters is how it sounds.
You guys should post some more "Goldfish" so I can figure out whether or not I wanna buy all their stuff :v:
[QUOTE=papaya;40852612]
because it's a music video that's a cartoon?
does Gorillaz remind you of RWJ's cartoon band too?[/QUOTE]
I think Gorillaz are good. So no.
To do with the button pressing argument, I like to think it's more of a "ride". I mean when you go on a rollercoaster someone is just pressing the button to make it go not building the entire track for you while you get pulled along. But it's still fun and a good experience.
I don't think a live band a live DJ should be put in the same category. One does one thing the other does something else.
[QUOTE=ewitwins;40859377]You guys should post some more "Goldfish" so I can figure out whether or not I wanna buy all their stuff :v:[/QUOTE]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cjwoit91SxU[/media]
My afroamerican brother
[QUOTE=daijitsu;40849793]I should add to the credit of 'button pushing'
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vC5TsSyNjU[/media]
but skill, effort and genre still isn't the point of the generic button pushing by electronic music idols in the music video. at all.[/QUOTE]
I find this highly impressive but then again, I'm easily entertained. I really like electronic music so that helps as well.
[editline]1st June 2013[/editline]
Even this
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXLL46xkdlY[/media]
It's true though, alot of DJ's these days play mixtape, And everyones playing Electro House / Progressive / Dubstep. Electronic music has become bastardized. But I know for a fact that Steve Aoki doesnt play mixtapes, But he mixes very horribly, I've been to one of his shows once. Respect for Goldfish!
[QUOTE=turkeysandvich;40864744]It's true though, alot of DJ's these days play mixtape, And everyones playing Electro House / Progressive / Dubstep. Electronic music has become bastardized. But I know for a fact that Steve Aoki doesnt play mixtapes, But he mixes very horribly, I've been to one of his shows once. Respect for Goldfish![/QUOTE]
What does your opinion on Aoki's live shows have to do with the video? And what's wrong with electro house, dubstep, and progressive? The contents of your post don't really make any sense to me. Also, alot of dj's do mixtape but that doesn't discredit the ones who don't, thats just plain generalization.
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