Goldfish - One Million Views - General

That was very catchy. Never heard of these guys before.

I love Goldfish music videos.

[QUOTE=J!NX;40852731]the difference is making it on a computer in fruity loops or something similar without any real beat and pressing a button to make it live VS actually physically playing it and thats more mashing skillfully then pressing 1 button over and over :v: I'm sorry but flicking your guitar and lip syncing, and not even actually playing is kind of dishearting to see as well and just as bad as some dude simply playing the music rather than actually physically remaking most of it infront of everyone. It's meant to be live. [B]Fucking play the music.[/B][/QUOTE] Goddamnit man what are you even talking about.

[QUOTE=Larry_G;40866750]Goddamnit man what are you even talking about.[/QUOTE] actually playing a song VS lazily pressing play and just pretending to play if they're playing an already made song live they should actually be playing it or not just standing there and dancing like a dickhead.

[QUOTE=Kopimi;40857013]haha yes you've truly zinged me with that one are you saying they aren't intentionally painting popular electronic producers like deadmau5 and skrillex in a negative light by literally showing them pushing buttons and by having the DJ be shown to be a "fraud" for not playing live instruments? yeah its a cute video but you're being intentionally thick if you're going to pretend they didn't intentionally broadcast the message that electronic music made without live instruments is easy / a scam [editline]31st May 2013[/editline] this may shock you but lots of electronic artists sequence their instruments live rather than painting out notes on a piano roll which means they set a metronome and record themselves playing the synthesizer or a drum machine and layer those elements on top of eachother, performing each bit of the song if people enjoy an artist just pressing play and putting on a good light show so they can dance with their friends, or (more likely) doing a live remix of the track, why are you so ridiculously adamant about people needing to reconstruct their tracks live? what option do they have? do you want them to hire a live band to play each of the 6 synthesizer tracks they sequenced, and bring in a live drummer with an electronic kit or something? if people are having fun at the show who cares honestly[/QUOTE] But when did they say no one had a good time when the auto-DJ was playing? I'm pretty sure they all looked pretty happy in that video

[QUOTE=J!NX;40866826]actually playing a song VS lazily pressing play and just pretending to play if they're playing an already made song live they should actually be playing it or not just standing there and dancing like a dickhead.[/QUOTE] And why exactly should they? Look at guys like Zedd or Porter Robinson. All they do is bring their laptop and a DJ-controller to the stage and yet the 20,000 people in front of them go crazy. Many producers pick up DJ'ing so they can do gigs, as it is usually their main source of income, record sales aren't worth much nowadays. I'm a producer myself and this summer I got a few gigs coming up too so I'll probably be doing the exact same thing. People go to these kind of shows for the atmosphere and to have a good time in gerenal, not to see some incredibly nifty live performance (although there are exceptions IE Daft Punk, Deadmau5, Booka Shade...) And besides, good luck trying to play 5 keyboards and a drum machine at the same time when you're on your own, unless you can afford some crazy live band to follow you around, like Chase & Status and Netsky do.

What is even the argument against "button pushing"? Playing the piano is literally just "button pushing" as well, but the piano still rules

[QUOTE=Laserbeams;40867474]What is even the argument against "button pushing"? Playing the piano is literally just "button pushing" as well, but the piano still rules[/QUOTE] Pressing 1 button to play an entire song is not the same as pressing the keys on the piano in rapid succession if i could press one key then have the piano flip the fuck out and spew out an entire song then what's the point

Wow it seriously was the first comment and its already a fucking fight

Ok I'm going to disregard the video and I have to say the song is still not that great. There are only two verses and while they do put forward a point of "back in the day people had to work to become famous". Admittedly this is not entirely true, there were still people then (thinking 80's and later) who had their songs written for them and all they had to do was get on a stage and look pretty. This is not the point that I'm trying to make though. After those two verses the rest of the video is only "we got one million views" and it focuses heavily on the video, which just continues in the same fashion as the two first verses. Compare this song to "we come together" ,which is coincidentally the only other song I heard from them, the layout is kind of the same. The message in that song is slightly different however, I won't go into it thoroughly but it's about doing things that are against the norm. "We come together" also only have two verses but after you've heard them both and what they mean the chorus that goes on for the rest of the song says "We come together, no matter the weather, we're going to love each other to the end of time" and even though the chorus for that song is around half of the song it actually bears some meaning. That they will support each other and that they trust each other in what they do. This new songs chorus isn't really relevant to the song except for they got one million views. I guess you can parallel it to that they achieved fame through their work but the last verse doesn't suggest that. So I think the song is too long and if they wanted to continue with the chorus for that long they should have made some changes to it. This is my opinion entirely. I'd give this song 6/10.

[QUOTE=Zombie man70;40848354]So, what you're saying is you would pay for a ticket to watch someone hit a play button?[/QUOTE] EDM Concerts isn't all about the music by the way, it's the lights, the general atmosphere of the place.

I may be way off with this but whats so different about those live mashups and playing a piano? It all boils down to you pushing something in a given order.

[quote]Goldfish had the idea for a concept of Live Bands vs. DJs. [b]The idea revolves around the idea that many current successful DJs don’t possess a lot of musical skill and instead their success stems from marketing hype.[/b] This isn’t to be confused with ‘turntablism’ which is a separate and impressive skill. We’re concerned with [b]juiced-up DJs that play premixed sets or let the computer do most of the auto-sync work and spend the rest of their time pretending to mix, knob-twiddling and fist-pumping.[/b] They’re sometimes in it for the women (or men), ego and fame. [b]This is in stark contrast to skilled yet struggling musos who study music as well as an actual musical instrument for years and far-too-often don’t achieve anywhere near the level of success and fame that their (sometimes) far-less-skilled DJ counterparts achieve.[/b] We could get into a discussion about what defines success and whether a laptop is an instrument but [b]let’s stick with the idea that there are some serious musicians with incredible chops that play to a room of 10 people and some DJs with little or no musical skill that play in massive stadiums to thousands of people and get huge attention for playing other people’s music.[/b][/quote] [quote]We had quite a list of knob-twiddlng culprits (a knob-twiddler is a DJ that pretends to be making a sizeable contribution to the music by touching and twiddling knobs, sometimes not even turning them but just having one hand on the mixer so as to look like there’s not just a premix playing). In the end I went with an eclectic mix of DJ characterisations. To clarify – though some of these characterisations have awesome production skills many of them don’t play a live musical instrument in their sets, rather hiding behind the safety of pre-produced music. [b]Throwing cake and spraying champagne at an audience, or keeping one hand on a single mixer knob and fist-pumping doesn’t really count as a musical performance.[/b][/quote] this is from the animator's page [url=http://www.mikescottanimation.com/goldfish-one-million-views/]I'd recommend reading the rest of the page if you're both interested in how the video was made and for more bits about the video itself.[/url]. It's actually quite interesting.

Damn, every time a big new music video from them comes out I just fucking love it. Every single one of them. I can't say that about many other artists at all.