Definitive Swine Flu Thread (POST ABOUT IT HERE ONLY) - General

[QUOTE=Kingy_who;14896670]the clouds are splitting and not raining where we are, strange for wales, some of us have evolved gills and webed hands and feet to cope with the weather[/QUOTE] No that's just because apart from the sheep the only thing you have to fuck is your cousin.

[QUOTE=RJ102;14896937]I wonder what'd it be like if a person with Swine Flu ran away coughing and sneezing on people on purpose, like a Ill-Terriost attack. :crossarms:[/QUOTE] God don't say that, I'm already paranoid about going on public transportation.

[QUOTE=markg06;14897001]God don't say that, I'm already paranoid about going on public transportation.[/QUOTE] Just go outside with some Fallout Armor, you'll be p. safe [img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4OYGjUrdllo/SWu0gtJzyDI/AAAAAAAAO8Q/V6ebLbArwmg/s400/power-armor4.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=RJ102;14897068]Just go outside with some Fallout Armor, you'll be p. safe [img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4OYGjUrdllo/SWu0gtJzyDI/AAAAAAAAO8Q/V6ebLbArwmg/s400/power-armor4.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] If only.

[QUOTE=markg06;14897089]If only.[/QUOTE] Hey, the T-51b Power Armor is 25 Radiation Resistance . . . You never know...

[img]http://www.zs-faellanden.ch/glossar/jpeg/projekte/abc_schutz_ausruestung.jpg[/img] This is what I'm gonna look when shit gets worse :cool:

[QUOTE=rosthouse;14897169][img]http://www.zs-faellanden.ch/glossar/jpeg/projekte/abc_schutz_ausruestung.jpg[/img] This is what I'm gonna look when shit gets worse :cool:[/QUOTE] \:buddy:

[QUOTE=rosthouse;14897169][img]http://www.zs-faellanden.ch/glossar/jpeg/projekte/abc_schutz_ausruestung.jpg[/img] This is what I'm gonna look when shit gets worse :cool:[/QUOTE] [b]If[/b]. Hopefully Mexico'll be closed and anyone with the virus dies/is cured.

[QUOTE=markg06;14897214][b]If[/b]. Hopefully Mexico'll be closed and anyone with the virus dies/is cured.[/QUOTE] Well the borders are closed, anyone with the flu in Mexico is Left 4 Dead

[QUOTE=RJ102;14897224]Well the borders are closed, anyone with the flu in Mexico is Left 4 Dead[/QUOTE] This seems cruel but, good, if a few hundred die for the rest of us then it'd be for the greater good.

[QUOTE=markg06;14897265]This seems cruel but, good, if a few hundred die for the rest of us then it'd be for the greater good.[/QUOTE] The WHO actually said that closing the borders is useless at this time, because the virus has already spread around the whole world.

[QUOTE=markg06;14897265]This seems cruel but, good, if a few hundred die for the rest of us then it'd be for the greater good.[/QUOTE] The left 4 dead bit was a joke, I don't know what they're doing myself, but the borders are closed and a few of my friends say you can't enter or leave the US. But I don't have lots of friends so I don't have lots of resources to trust.

[QUOTE=rosthouse;14897288]The WHO actually said that closing the borders is useless at this time, because the virus has already spread around the whole world.[/QUOTE] Yes, but it will stop moar spread from Mexico.

[QUOTE=rosthouse;14897288]The WHO actually said that closing the borders is useless at this time, because the virus has already spread around the whole world.[/QUOTE] I remeber seeing that earlier and I think that's it bollocks, but hey they're meant to be the people keeping us safe from this so they should know more than me.

I tried my best with the avatar meme.

America's illegal immigration problem has been solved.

[QUOTE=markg06;14897345]I remeber seeing that earlier and I think that's it bollocks, but hey they're meant to be the people keeping us safe from this so they should know more than me.[/QUOTE] Nah, I think closing borders doesn't affect the spreading of the virus anyway. I mean, today borders doesn't mean anything anymore. We can travel around the world in one day, 100 years ago this was impossible. There's also a big difference to the spanish flu. The spanish flu spread like a wave over the globe, but the swine flu, or even SARS is showing up punctual, anywhere around the globe. But we can also combine the various research institutes we have today, something that was not possible back then. If someone finds a cure, it will be avaiable around the globe really fast.

I was reading about the 1918 pandemic here: [url]http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/EID/vol12no01/05-0979.htm#Figure2[/url] What I read was worrying. The initial first wave of the pandemic was a mild influenza with a death rate not much above normal and was 'out of season', much like the strain we see today. The second wave was partly as well but was "highly fatal", and the third wave which occured in season was even more deadly. Apparently it is completely unknown why the waves were so close to each other (they were squeezed into about 9 months), as apparently in the pandemic prior to that (1889), the waves were spread across 3+ years.

[QUOTE=rosthouse;14897599]Nah, I think closing borders doesn't affect the spreading of the virus anyway. I mean, today borders doesn't mean anything anymore. We can travel around the world in one day, 100 years ago this was impossible. There's also a big difference to the spanish flu. The spanish flu spread like a wave over the globe, but the swine flu, or even SARS is showing up punctual, anywhere around the globe. [/quote] It's possible it spread like a wave due to the slow speed (by today's standards) that it travelled. Now we're able to go right from the epicentre of the virus and bring it to another continent in less than 24 hours. If it was spreading from person to person from the epicentre, it would likely spread out more slowly, instead of being pin pricked into different places. Remember that people were still travelling by boat so by the time they arrived in one continent, a large part of the one they came from would have been infected.

[QUOTE=toxicpiano;14897705]It's possible it spread like a wave due to the slow speed (by today's standards) that it travelled. Now we're able to go right from the epicentre of the virus and bring it to another continent in less than 24 hours. If it was spreading from person to person from the epicentre, it would likely spread out more slowly, instead of being pin pricked into different places. Remember that people were still travelling by boat so by the time they arrived in one continent, a large part of the one they came from would have been infected.[/QUOTE] Yes, exactly what I wanted to say.

[QUOTE=rosthouse;14897736]Yes, exactly what I wanted to say.[/QUOTE] Ah okay. I misinterpreted what you said slightly.

[QUOTE=rosthouse;14897599]Nah, I think closing borders doesn't affect the spreading of the virus anyway. I mean, today borders doesn't mean anything anymore. We can travel around the world in one day, 100 years ago this was impossible. There's also a big difference to the spanish flu. The spanish flu spread like a wave over the globe, but the swine flu, or even SARS is showing up punctual, anywhere around the globe. But we can also combine the various research institutes we have today, something that was not possible back then. If someone finds a cure, it will be avaiable around the globe really fast.[/QUOTE] True, not to mention that the spanish flu spread rapidly with the mass amount of soldiers returning from the trenches which weren't the most hygenic places on earth.

[QUOTE=rosthouse;14897169][img]http://www.zs-faellanden.ch/glossar/jpeg/projekte/abc_schutz_ausruestung.jpg[/img] This is what I'm gonna look when shit gets worse :cool:[/QUOTE] that looks retarded

[QUOTE=WW_Veteran;14897858]that looks retarded[/QUOTE] Would that matter if everyone around you is carrying a deadly disease?

[QUOTE=Reborn9;14894491]Lolwut, Britain's already infected...[/QUOTE] I thought that at least 4 or 5 cases right?

[QUOTE=toxicpiano;14897651]I was reading about the 1918 pandemic here: [url]http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/EID/vol12no01/05-0979.htm#Figure2[/url] What I read was worrying. The initial first wave of the pandemic was a mild influenza with a death rate not much above normal and was 'out of season', much like the strain we see today. The second wave was partly as well but was "highly fatal", and the third wave which occured in season was even more deadly. Apparently it is completely unknown why the waves were so close to each other (they were squeezed into about 9 months), as apparently in the pandemic prior to that (1889), the waves were spread across 3+ years.[/QUOTE] Now you need to go read that they thought the same thing was happening in 73' and how it was nothing. Quit fear mongering, show both sides. Not to mention that was almost 100 years ago. I'm pretty sure we have advanced in medicine since then.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;14886528]Wait, so if it is your own mass that causes you to die when you fall, is that considered suicide?[/QUOTE] No, not in a logical sense, as suicide is the consious effort to kill one's self. Also, not dead yet, but I did feel a little sick today.

It's so close to me, it's right a few dozen miles north of me in Sacramento ><

[QUOTE=ketchup;14897992]Now you need to go read that they thought the same thing was happening in 73' and how it was nothing. Quit fear mongering, show both sides. Not to mention that was almost 100 years ago. I'm pretty sure we have advanced in medicine since then.[/QUOTE] Yeah, but modern medicine is useless unless preventative steps are taken. Unlike bird flu, swine flu is human-human transmissible. Factor in this: [quote]Recent reports of high mortality among healthy young adults in the 2009 swine flu outbreak point to cytokine storms as being responsible for these deaths[/quote] Cytokine storms are caused when a healthy and robust immune system gets confused and ends up inflaming areas of the body, which can damage tissues and block airways - leading to death. [quote]In April both the WHO and the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) expressed serious concerns about the situation. It had the potential to become a flu pandemic because the strain was novel, transmitted from human to human against little immunity, and the Mexican mortality rate was unusually high[/quote] Oh, and then look at this. [quote]While the seasonal flu kills less than 1% of those infected, the Mexican fatality rate represents a 7% rate. This compares to the global rate of more than 2.5% for the Spanish flu pandemic of 1918.[/quote] And to round off with this if you're a Brit. [quote]In the United States and Mexico the use of surgical facemasks has been recommended as being effective. However, in the United Kingdom, Health Secretary Alan Johnson told MPs on April 27 that "Although we are aware that facemasks are being given out to the public in Mexico, the available scientific evidence does not support the general wearing of facemasks by those who are not ill, whilst going about their normal activities." In addition, the Head of Pandemic Planning at the Royal College of General Practitioners, Dr Maureen Baker, stated on April 27 that "Masks become ineffective when they become damp or after a few hours. There has been a lot of debate on the use of facemasks and some authorities say that, in the community, the most effective use is to give to patients who may have symptoms when they present in the surgery — that should help reduce the infectivity of that patient to surgery staff and other patients. I expect the Department of Health will issue guidance on use of facemasks if we move into a pandemic phase." Masks may not protect the wearer from inhalation of the virus, but might protect other people from picking up the virus from the wearer. While there is insufficient actual evidence of the effectiveness of facemasks and respirators, the US Centres for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) advised in 2007 on the basis of the sparse evidence available that during a pandemic (not the case as of April 2009) the use of a facemask in public places (as distinct form workplaces) should be considered for people with flu, in contact with people with flu, or in crowded places; and a respirator if in contact with people known to be infected. This is general advice and relates solely to the infective agents and masks, with nothing specific to the US. Facemasks protect the wearer against droplets from sneezes and coughs from other people, and others from the wearer. They do not protect against inhalation of small virus particles. Masks might also protect the wearer indirectly by preventing accidental touching of the mouth and nose.[/quote] Now, personally, I'm starting to get a bit worried.

mum finally started noticing this little cold I have isn't funny. Co-workers made fun of me during lunch whilst I was hacking... "hurr- you has teh swine flu" -- they are 30+ years old mind you... -__- Sneezing has gotten worse. So has the coughing. Mum says I should stay home tommorow.