Welp, I've always dumped them into a boiling pot. Doesn't really matter much to me anyways.
[QUOTE=VagueWisdom;38829018]I'm pretty sure that was just the twitching of the frog being dead at the end of it, without it's organs I can't really see it being alive through that. Oddly enough I wasn't really disgusted looking at the video, it didn't look half bad really, I've eaten some pretty weird stuff before, like this:
[img]http://www.gpwa.org/forum/attachments/eatting-filipino-balut-2019d1308525737-balut1.jpg[/img]
As long as you don't look at what you're eating, it isn't half bad with some salt added onto it.
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Hell if people really think this is bad I wonder what they think of when you cook Crabs or Lobsters, you have to put those little guys in boiling pots of water while they're still alive.[/QUOTE]
My mother had a farm once and we had ducks, the laid eggs all the time.
And I was doing egg and bacon and on the frying pan that came out.
I was quiet for a long time.
"This kills the frog"
[QUOTE=Matrix374;38830085]Sorry dead cows aren't capable of feeling pain
You could eat any taboo animal for all I care as long as its not feeling pain and self-conscious[/QUOTE]
So eating an animal that was killed feeling immeasurable pain and self-conscious is your taboo.
What you said is just dumb and egocentric.
[QUOTE=Cypher_09;38830659]So eating an animal that was killed feeling immeasurable pain and self-conscious is your taboo.
What you said is just dumb and egocentric.[/QUOTE]
So I can abuse animals and people if I was raised in a different culture?
[QUOTE=Matrix374;38830711]So I can abuse animals and people if I was raised in a different culture?[/QUOTE]
...
If you were born and raised into this specific Japanese culture, then what you would call abuse would not be the same as what they define as abuse. Abuse is frowned upon everywhere, but the difference is what's classed as abuse. A similar analogy is the legal age of consent. What would be pedophilic rape in one country would be perfectly acceptable in another.
stop with the "it's a different culture" bullshit. frog ikizukuri is not commonplace in japan. ask the average japanese person how they feel about it and I guarantee you they'll think it's gross
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at 0:14, the frog's spinal cord is severed. it doesn't feel anything
[QUOTE=Dori;38830835]stop with the "it's a different culture" bullshit. frog ikizukuri is not commonplace in japan. ask the average japanese person how they feel about it and I guarantee you they'll think it's gross
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at 0:14, the frog's spinal cord is severed. it doesn't feel anything[/QUOTE]
So the girl eating it and smiling is actually a horrible person? my point still stands. you can't guarantee me that the average person will think it's gross at all. (i'm not so ignorant that i don't know it isn't controversial in every country it's practiced, but many japanese [I]do[/I] argue that it's a 'cultural heritage')
[QUOTE=Cypher_09;38830822]...
If you were born and raised into this specific Japanese culture, then what you would call abuse would not be the same as what they define as abuse. Abuse is frowned upon everywhere, but the difference is what's classed as abuse. A similar analogy is the legal age of consent. What would be pedophilic rape in one country would be perfectly acceptable in another.[/QUOTE]
Okay how about I change it to "torture"?
slicing,dicing and gutting something and leaving it alive.
Its okay if I was raised in a different culture right?
I could also kill homosexuals because my culture says so,its all fine right?
the frog is practically dead. I don't have any strong feelings about her eating it
[QUOTE=Matrix374;38830950]Okay how about I change it to "torture"?
slicing,dicing and gutting something and leaving it alive.
Its okay if I was raised in a different culture right?
I could also kill homosexuals because my culture says so,its all fine right?[/QUOTE]
No it's not ok because we have human rights are you insane
Delicious.
[QUOTE=Dori;38830978]the frog is practically dead. I don't have any strong feelings about her eating it[/QUOTE]
Well there wouldn't be any problem if thats the case.
You people are a bunch of pansys. How do you think food even ends up on the dinner plate at home. They're cut to pieces brutally.
Just saying I'd eat it. I've been in starving-to-death conditions before.
[QUOTE=Dori;38830978]the frog is practically dead. I don't have any strong feelings about her eating it[/QUOTE]
[quote]stop with the "it's a different culture" bullshit.[/quote]
[quote]I'm not so ignorant that I don't know it isn't controversial in every country it's practiced, but many japanese do argue that it is a 'cultural heritage'[/quote]
whether you agree with it or not it's true.
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[QUOTE=Craptasket;38831003]Delicious.[/QUOTE]
maybe, but i'd find it way too strange to eat any ikizukuri food :v: i do wonder about the taste though
[QUOTE=Cypher_09;38831022]whether you agree with it or not it's true.[/QUOTE]
okay cool, that has nothing to do with my post. and whether or not "many japanese" (bullshit) claim it's a cultural heritage doesn't change the fact that people think it's gross. if they didn't think it's gross, it would be commonplace
[QUOTE=Dori;38831065]okay cool, that has nothing to do with my post. and whether or not "many japanese" (bullshit) claim it's a cultural heritage doesn't change the fact that people think it's gross. if they didn't think it's gross, it would be commonplace[/QUOTE]
no shit?
[QUOTE=Rampage147;38831019]You people are a bunch of pansys. How do you think food even ends up on the dinner plate at home. They're cut to pieces brutally.
Just saying I'd eat it. I've been in starving-to-death conditions before.[/QUOTE]
European laws are pretty strict on slaughterhouses, and UK laws are even stricter. Conditions are still a bit laxer than they should be in my personal opinion, but it's not the same as eviscerating and flaying whilst still alive.
[QUOTE=Cypher_09;38831118]no shit?[/QUOTE]
um okay, if you agree then what is your point?
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no idea why there's so much animosity if we essentially believe the same thing
[QUOTE=Dori;38831154]um okay, if you agree then what is your point?[/QUOTE]
my point again is that it actually is a cultural thing, at least for the most part in Japan. it becomes a cultural thing when they're exposed to it repeatedly in their area or parents hand it down generation-to-generation
[QUOTE=Cypher_09;38831269]my point again is that it actually is a cultural thing, at least for the most part in Japan. it becomes a cultural thing when they're exposed to it repeatedly in their area or parents hand it down generation-to-generation[/QUOTE]
I literally never said it wasn't cultural
i'm just retorting to your "bullshit" quote when i said it's mostly a culture difference :v:
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[QUOTE=Dori;38831280]I literally never said it wasn't cultural[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]stop with the "it's a different culture" bullshit.[/quote]
[quote]okay cool, that has nothing to do with my post. and whether or not "many japanese" [B](bullshit)[/B] claim it's a cultural heritage doesn't change the fact that people think it's gross. if they didn't think it's gross, it would be commonplace[/quote]
??
you're literally picking apart my posts in order to continue arguing by being a pendant
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we both have the same feelings about this as far as I can tell, so just stop
Argument
[B]THE END[/B]
No Kermit!
[QUOTE=Platinumcs;38826087]To be fair, it would have died as soon as the knife went through its spine/cut its head off...
Still this is messed up[/QUOTE]
Not necessarily instantly, but probably a few seconds afterwards (although I am no expert at frog anatomy).
It does remind me of that [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillotine#Living_heads]"living heads" thing in humans though..[/url]
Is this really a cultural difference? I know a bit about Japan as I've done some research bla bla but eating frogs in such manner was not a part of their food culture last I checked.
Japan does have a lot of "experimental" shit others might(will) find weird so this could be one of them.
[QUOTE=Cypher_09;38827713]The way we kill our cattle and poultry behind closed doors is hardly any different, only we eat it a lot later[/QUOTE]
Still, if we were asked to eat a steak straight after witnessing the cow being killed and gutted I doubt we'd do it with a smile on our face
[QUOTE=RobbL;38831621]Still, if we were asked to eat a steak straight after witnessing the cow being killed and gutted I doubt we'd do it with a smile on our face[/QUOTE]
true, it would shock us because it's not something we're used to seeing regularly
[QUOTE=itisjuly;38831607]Is this really a cultural difference? I know a bit about Japan as I've done some research bla bla but eating frogs in such manner was not a part of their food culture last I checked.
Japan does have a lot of "experimental" shit others might(will) find weird so this could be one of them.[/QUOTE]
the media likes to make a circus out of east asian culture, especially of japan's. people have such a distorted view of their culture because that's all they're exposed to
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and cypher, the reason I took issue to "it's a different culture" is because that takes agency away from japanese people. another way people like to do this with japan is to (just an example off the top of my head) bring up the age of consent, which paints japanese people as child-preying perverts. almost all prefectures have the aoc set to at least 16
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another example is texmex, which hijacks and misrepresents mexican food culture
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