Walking Dead V.3 - "Carl get back in the house!" Edition
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In my opinion, it would be a very good twist and like you said, redeeming on her side.
Ricky
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C6tE4Mblks[/media]
On an unrelated note, one thing I like about this season is that Beth's character is slowly changing from "Maggie's sister" to "girl who helps with the baby and may be important." Hopefully she'll have some impact on the story.
Oh my god that Intro Credits is amazing
Currently watching this show - I was told it was pretty great and it is. Played the game beforehand, want to get into the comic books. Cheered a lot when Glenn and Hershel arrived.
I'm at Season 2 episode 4. Pharmacy scene was embarassing to watch yet really sweet. I'm guessing what Glenn was told to get will be explained later?
[QUOTE=WillerinV1.02;39768671]Most hatred for Andrea has nothing to do with the fact she's aligned with the town. [sp] If they did it right, it would of been a really cool concept and really built her character up. The problem is she's a complete and utter moron. She's lived with Michonne for nearly half a year and instantly trusts and starts fucking the Governor, then even when she sees the heads, the zombified daughter, the zombie fights, hears from Rick and the others what they've done to them...she still finds it in her to stay with them. It was a good concept for a plot, but they did it horribly and the already growing hatred for Andrea just got worse. [/sp][/QUOTE]
All that stuff is in character though, once you understand her character. She wants a normal life, she is not cut out for roaming the wasteland scavenging her next meal. Michonne, Daryl, Merle, people like that are more independent but not everyone is like that. So once she sees the town [sp]she wants to live there. She HAS to live there. She hooks up with the most powerful guy in town, which is exactly what you'd do if you're trying to secure a position in that town. Once she's invested in the town and has her place there, finding out stuff like the heads in the aquarium is no big deal. You seriously expected Andrea to walk back into the walker infested wasteland and live like an animal just because that guy was taking trophies? As for Rick and his group, what connection does Andrea have to them that would override living in a town with most of the real comforts of home? They are people she hung with for a while, that's all. The kind of friends you make when you work somewhere, but once you get another job they don't mean that much to you anymore.[/sp]
Ah, a [sp]pregnancy test[/sp].
That explains a lot I suppose.
[editline]2nd March 2013[/editline]
Mah automeurge, Shawn!
[QUOTE=Ricenchicken;39767046]Heres a quote:
"The Walking Dead fans will not feel cheated by the finale. It's not a soft close for sure. As [the season] starts to wrap up, it gets stronger, crazier and weirder. [b]Although you'll never see it coming, when it cuts to black at the end of season three, there will be millions of mouths agape.[/b]"
The last sentence is getting me really excited.[/QUOTE]
[sp]baby is gonna die, calling it now.[/sp]
"Ten things we learned from the panel"
1. Character development will play a big role in Season Four.
“I think there may be a wee bit less of the run and gun. And [we'll] get a little more into some of our characters,” Executive Producer Greg Nicotero told EW. “The challenge with a show like this, when you have a big ensemble, is you don’t want any of the characters to get lost; it’s important that we know what Carol’s story is and that we know what Beth’s story is. And when you’re trying to service a lot of characters, it becomes challenging. Watching the first season of Walking Dead and seeing how grounded it was, that’s really important to all of us. Andy Lincoln and I spent a lot of time going through the scripts and making sure we feel that they’re grounded. Because that’s what keeps our audience coming back. The walkers and the gore and the action and stuff, that’s fun, that’s the popcorn part of it. But if you don’t have characters that people are invested in, you lose your audience.”
2. Rick’s descent into madness won’t last for long
Even though Carl doesn’t seem to think that he’s fit to lead anymore, Andrew Lincoln assured EW that Rick isn’t going to be this way forever. “I think you’ll see in the next episode a turning point happens and he realizes his responsibilities. And hopefully he’ll come back from the brink. But certainly since the death of Lori and the pressure imposed by The Governor, he is in a state of shock, grief, and stress, and he has had a breakdown. It’s tough times for Rick, but it’s always tough times for him, isn’t it? He never gets a day off, this guy.” Later in the panel, Lincoln came back to Carl’s criticism: “He has a point. I have been making some terrible calls. So, you know, bless him. Parenting in the apocalypse.”
3. Daryl could lead, but he’d probably rather not
Norman Reedus immediately deflected the idea that he’s become the fan favorite. “We all have our people,” he said. But when asked whether or not he thinks Daryl has the capacity to step up and lead the group, Reedus was much more assured. “I don’t think he wants to be the leader in any way. Like with Randall, remember Randall? There’s a whole episode about ‘what do we do with Randall’ and Daryl just kind of quietly went in there and beat the s— out of him and came back with bloody knuckles and was like ‘yeah, what’s up?’ He wasn’t like ‘look at me, look what I did!” I think if he had to lead, it would be reluctantly,” said Reedus. “He doesn’t want to talk about feelings or make you feel better about the future. He just does stuff. He gets it done.”
4. What Glenn really wants
Steven Yeun said in Glenn’s perfect world, “The Governor would be dead and he would be happy with Maggie in a field full of…food.” He said his world would be like a savory Willy Wonka factory. With steak trees.
5. Everyone is scared of Carl the child soldier
Lincoln said of Carl’s recent changes: “I see a boy turning into a soldier, which is a terrifying thing. And I think that that story between the group, the family, and this seemingly wayward boy turning into a child soldier is a terrifying and very interesting arc that we follow in the last five episodes.”
6. Andrea does not have feelings for The Governor anymore
Laurie Holden told EW: “I think she thinks The Governor is disgusting at this point. She didn’t sleep with him because she was having a weak moment. She slept with him because she had every intention of doing what Carol suggested. But it’s not easy to just slit someone’s throat when they’re sleeping. She doesn’t have all the information. She doesn’t know about Maggie, but at this point it doesn’t matter. He’s gross to her.” In the panel discussion, Hardwick referred to the almost murder as “Carol’s creepy vagina warfare,” causing Reedus and Lincoln to fall apart laughing.
7. Shipping Daryl and Carol
An audience member asked if we’re ever going to see them make out. Reedus said, “I like these two damaged people gravitating towards each other. It might happen…I don’t want to make the first move.” Reedus added, “I don’t think he has much game.” Given the shrieks that comment solicited, either he actually does have game, or he doesn’t and his female fans just don’t care.
8. Andrea and Michonne: not a cat fight
Holden told the audience that “Andrea and Michonne are two adult women who wanted different things. Andrea did not choose a guy over her. After eight months she wanted a life and she wanted a community. I think this one [Michonne] could have ended up anywhere and she would have been unhappy.” She added, “I think that she didn’t want to share Andrea with anybody. She was happy when it was just the two of them. And I wish that they really had been able to have a deeper conversation before Michonne left those gates.”
8. If Season Two ended with a hopeful cliffhanger…
“I would say [the Season Three finale] is the opposite of last year. In every way,” Holden said.
9. Season Four is underway
Executive Producer Gale Ann Hurd told EW that “the writer’s room has cooked up the first eight episodes, and they’ll probably start writing next week. And we start shooting May 6. We’re still finishing the season finale – editing and music.”
10. If you’re a fan, they’re listening to what you have to say
Comic creator and Executive Producer Robert Kirkman told EW, “we have the best fans in the world. If you go to the site, you see the message boards and can find out what they like and what they don’t like. We look at that, so we know sort of what fans want and what we don’t. They’ve given us a lot of interesting ideas. We’re ultimately going to do something that’s entirely unique and ours, but the fans are going to be very happy.” Sometimes the suggestions aren’t entirely helpful, but amusing nonetheless. Kirkman said, “we get a lot of requests for zombie animals.” EP David Alpert added, jokingly, “I’m not going to rule out seeing a zombie polar bear in Season Four. Because you never know.”
Also episode 13 is listed as having "Explict sexual activity"
people are speculating that
[sp] The Gov. rapes Sasha [/sp]
[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;39774519]If you're liking the first half of season 2, just know that it gets much, much better later.[/QUOTE]
Was told the same about Breaking Bad and that promise held true - I feel like AMC has a certain quality to their programmes that either holds perfectly or just improves.
[editline]2nd March 2013[/editline]
Ooohhhh, that Portal reference...
Rick seems to have a tendency to keep one of his eyebrows raised at all times.
[QUOTE=Derp Y. Mail;39775067]Ooohhhh, that Portal reference...[/QUOTE]
Was terrible and really forced.
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;39774250]All that stuff is in character though, once you understand her character. She wants a normal life, she is not cut out for roaming the wasteland scavenging her next meal. Michonne, Daryl, Merle, people like that are more independent but not everyone is like that. So once she sees the town [sp]she wants to live there. She HAS to live there. She hooks up with the most powerful guy in town, which is exactly what you'd do if you're trying to secure a position in that town. Once she's invested in the town and has her place there, finding out stuff like the heads in the aquarium is no big deal. You seriously expected Andrea to walk back into the walker infested wasteland and live like an animal just because that guy was taking trophies? As for Rick and his group, what connection does Andrea have to them that would override living in a town with most of the real comforts of home? They are people she hung with for a while, that's all. The kind of friends you make when you work somewhere, but once you get another job they don't mean that much to you anymore.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp] But...but she sees how incredibly unstable this man is. She has to realize that someone this unstable and insane cannot hold this towns survival forever. Furthermore, in her perspective, she's not even allowed to leave. If she can be surrounded by all these indicators that this man is insane and keeps secrets from her, she's deluding herself, and that makes her character very very flawed, and annoying. [/sp]
This is really late, but was that a Tom Waits song at the end of last week's episode?
At the Season 2 finale right now.
[sp]That's an awful lot of zombies. How come they're all headed the same direction? It can't be the helicopter noise, by the time they reach Hershel's it must've been days since that flew off.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Derp Y. Mail;39778255]At the Season 2 finale right now.
[sp]That's an awful lot of zombies. How come they're all headed the same direction? It can't be the helicopter noise, by the time they reach Hershel's it must've been days since that flew off.[/sp][/QUOTE]
(slight comic spoilers, but nothing that'll spoil anything major if you're just looking for an explanation)
[sp] In the comics they describe that the zombies move in massive hordes almost constantly, Im guessing that what you saw at the end of season 2 was just an unlucky time for a horde to pass through [/sp]
[QUOTE=Derp Y. Mail;39778255]At the Season 2 finale right now.
[sp]That's an awful lot of zombies. How come they're all headed the same direction? It can't be the helicopter noise, by the time they reach Hershel's it must've been days since that flew off.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp] It could of been that they were still walking in the direction the helicoptor was heading just didn't stop even though they couldnt hear it anymore.
And more zombies walked together after that, and even though the helicoptor probably passed herschel's farms days before the horde was in the forest, they were still walking in the direction the helicoptor was going. [/sp]
[QUOTE=Derp Y. Mail;39778255]At the Season 2 finale right now.
[sp]That's an awful lot of zombies. How come they're all headed the same direction? It can't be the helicopter noise, by the time they reach Hershel's it must've been days since that flew off.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]zombies generally follow the direction of a sound they hear until they either find it or something else gets in their way. at least, the typical zombie does, which is what's in TWD.[/sp]
I just realized last weeks episode ended with Hold On by Tom Waits.
[video=youtube;WPnOEiehONQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPnOEiehONQ[/video]
I fucking adore Tom Waits.
Also, regarding Dale: [sp]Dale's death still gets under my skin. All he did was try to be good, to keep everyone as humane as possible, then ended up painfully dying with everyone around him in tears. They didn't even let him know that they let Randall live, to give him some sort of comfort before they shot him. I just feel like he went out in the worse circumstances in a way.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Ripvayne;39779816]Also, regarding Dale: [sp]Dale's death still gets under my skin. All he did was try to be good, to keep everyone as humane as possible, then ended up painfully dying with everyone around him in tears. They didn't even let him know that they let Randall live, to give him some sort of comfort before they shot him. I just feel like he went out in the worse circumstances in a way.[/sp][/QUOTE]
season 2 spoiler: [sp]Not to mention Dale's death made no sense as in, even if the zombie's fingers were filed down to points, it would have been too busy trying to prevent getting thrown off to be able to rip into his stomach like that. As well, what kind of person's stomach just rips apart like butter at the slightest attack?[/sp]
[QUOTE=ColossalSoft;39776823]Was terrible and really forced.[/QUOTE]
how do you not force a reference
there is literally not an acceptable situation where it would make sense and be relevant to include it, and i, as well as my friends, got a slight chuckle out of it, which is what it was intended to do
[editline]3rd March 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Gar;39779840]season 2 spoiler: [sp]Not to mention Dale's death made no sense as in, even if the zombie's fingers were filed down to points, it would have been too busy trying to prevent getting thrown off to be able to rip into his stomach like that. As well, what kind of person's stomach just rips apart like butter at the slightest attack?[/sp][/QUOTE]
the human stomach isnt exactly weak, but that's entirely plausible, ive dug my hands into my friends stomach so deep it made small holes by accident, and if i'd put some force behind it/followed through, it wouldn't have been hard
I really like The Walking Dead season 3 commercial on Fox TV Serbia. It's kinda goosebumpy when Beth sings and all that. I remember seeing it on TV every day prior to Episode 1 premier it got me so hyped :v:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JMx8O9lI_I[/media]
I'm not sure I understand why [sp]the governor had all those soldiers shot down. Couldn't they be useful in the community...?[/sp]
[QUOTE=Yahnich;39782802]i didn't get that either actually, [sp]they're military professionals and their arsenal would go to the community anyway[/sp][/QUOTE]
The only reason I get [sp]would be if they would be a waste of resources and all they wanted were the guns so they could seem stronger to the people they were already protecting.[/sp]
or something.
[QUOTE=Yahnich;39782802]i didn't get that either actually, [sp]they're military professionals and their arsenal would go to the community anyway[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]Yeah but the Governor sees anyone with power as a huge threat. He probably thought there was a chance that they might want to have a part in the running of Woodbury so it was easier to just kill them and take their stuff.[/sp]
It's probably just me but [sp]the scene where Rick finds out Lori is dead is really strangely acted. Like, when he leans down looking at Carl the way he goes "oooh noooo" almost seemed like he was taunting Carl as if he was gonna end it with "your mommy's dead boohoo", even though I knew he wasn't. It's just the way he did it that sounded and looked so weird.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Yahnich;39782934][sp]iunno they're soldiers so they're used to getting orders but i guess you have a point[/sp]
[editline]3rd March 2013[/editline]
tbh i think they did it that way so the viewer instantly realizes [sp]that the governor is a huge fucking dick[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]Yeah but who says that those soldiers will follow a guy who they've just met? They might want to establish military order in Woodbury or something.[/sp]
[sp]the soldiers could stage a coup if they ever found out some of the nastier things about woodbury. i'm sure blake didn't want to have to deal with that, considering they had a lot of firepower, and well-trained (well, uh, maybe i'll take that last part out) men.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Derp Y. Mail;39782775]I'm not sure I understand why [sp]the governor had all those soldiers shot down. Couldn't they be useful in the community...?[/sp][/QUOTE]
That's the whole thing about the Governor. If you read the comics you kind of have a better idea of why he does what he does in the show. Basically [sp]the governor is one of those people that prospers in a world without structure. He took the opportunity and now he does questionable things in order to keep his own group alive. The more groups he takes out and the more supplies he finds, the longer he'll last without competition or running out of supplies[/sp]
also
[QUOTE=Derp Y. Mail;39783209]It's probably just me but [sp]the scene where Rick finds out Lori is dead is really strangely acted. Like, when he leans down looking at Carl the way he goes "oooh noooo" almost seemed like he was taunting Carl as if he was gonna end it with "your mommy's dead boohoo", even though I knew he wasn't. It's just the way he did it that sounded and looked so weird.[/sp][/QUOTE]
When I saw it, I thought that Rick [sp]wasn't FULLY hit with the fact at first, but then when he saw Carl he realized that he had to witness the whole thing and then started reacting the way he did. The acting was still a little funny though.[/sp]
[QUOTE=halflife_123;39783464][sp]Yeah but who says that those soldiers will follow a guy who they've just met? They might want to establish military order in Woodbury or something.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp] And that many military men, how would the Gov keep an eye on all of them without being caught. It was better for him to kill them and take all their stuff. The citizens of woodbury more or less believe in the Govenor. Newcomers might see through to his true colors. [/sp]
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