[QUOTE=Llivavin;16084370]Every post i've seen has had some [B]inacuraccy[/B], i've posted some facts, yet they go ignored, and as such, everyone in here should take 2-3 hour hatius and go research everything about the topics at hand, otherwise nothings going to get changed.
hell even researching it probably won't change, but atleast it will make for more interesting arguments.[/QUOTE]
Such as?
Well, I've waged my war, I'm out.
[QUOTE=sp00k!;16084268]If they want to get married at a church, which is sponsored by the government, they should be allowed to do that. Civil union might be the same, but that doesn't matter. They should have the same rights as heterosexuals to get married at a church. It's no different from saying that blacks or asians etc, can't get married at a church.[/QUOTE]
This is the argument I get PO'd about. Gay marriage is NOT the same as colored marriage. Colored people didn't have the option to become partners period, homosexuals do. If there are states that don't allow gay partnership under a civil union, then they should fight for that. It very much matters.
[QUOTE=Kybalt;16084353]Right. Except churches are tax exempt and because of this their discrimination against marring gays is discrimination as if it were done by the government.[/QUOTE]
You've said that before and i rated you agree on that post, no need to reiterate what you said.
[QUOTE=tomahawk2;16084401]This is the argument I get PO'd about. Gay marriage is NOT the same as colored marriage. Colored people didn't have the option to become partners period, homosexuals do. If there are states that don't allow gay partnership under a civil union, then they should fight for that. It very much matters.[/QUOTE]
Gay people don't choose to be gay. Gay people want to same benefits of being in a marriage or civil union as straight people. They don't get them.
Get rid of all the liberals. Then the world would be awesome.
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[QUOTE=Kybalt;16084424]Gay people don't choose to be gay. Gay people want to same benefits of being in a marriage or civil union as straight people. They don't get them.[/QUOTE]
Yes they do what the fuck are you talking about-
[QUOTE=Kybalt;16083310]:Dawkins102:
Yeah. Actually, if people are EDUCATED as to what drugs to do them, they wont start using them.[/QUOTE]
Right, because that's totally working now, even with people having to risk getting shot.
[QUOTE=It.;16084435]Get rid of all the liberals. Then the world would be awesome.
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Yes they do what the fuck are you talking about-[/QUOTE]
No they don't.
[QUOTE=Kybalt;16084353]Right. Except churches are tax exempt and because of this their discrimination against marring gays is discrimination as if it were done by the government.[/QUOTE]
So? Who cares if the churches are tax exempt? Churches aren't government run, so it isn't being done by the government. This isn't an issue about gay churches, this is an issue about gay marriage.
[QUOTE=Kybalt;16084388]Such as?[/QUOTE]
No one seems to be bringing up Animals in nature that have been seen to be natually gay (i have twice, everyone ignores)
No one seems to realise that the only state in the US with civil unions being the exact same as marriage is california.
No one seems to realize exactly how drug cartels/gangs/simple dealers work, and they have their idea heavily influenced by hollywood.
There's a ton more.
[QUOTE=Kybalt;16084424]Gay people don't choose to be gay. Gay people want to same benefits of being in a marriage or civil union as straight people. They don't get them.[/QUOTE]
Straight people can't have same-sex marriages either, so it's equal.
[QUOTE=lmaoboat;16084453]Right, because that's totally working now, even with people having to risk getting shot.[/QUOTE]
Yeah but with how drugs are now, there's more peer pressure to be a rebel and do something illegal and then there's misinformation...
[QUOTE=Kybalt;16084376]People also have a right to know how the universe actually works, not as told by desert people in robes 2500 years ago.[/QUOTE]
Yes, people do have that right.
[QUOTE=It.;16084435]Get rid of all the liberals. Then the world would be awesome.
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Yes they do what the fuck are you talking about-[/QUOTE]
You do know most liberals in the US are considered conservative by the worlds standards right?
A totalitarian society. Sort of like the one in mirror's edge, not the one in China.
[QUOTE=Llivavin;16084466]No one seems to be bringing up Animals in nature that have been seen to be natually gay (i have twice, everyone ignores)
No one seems to realise that the only state in the US with civil unions being the exact same as marriage is california.
No one seems to realize exactly how drug cartels/gangs/simple dealers work, and they have their idea heavily influenced by hollywood.[/QUOTE]
I've noticed all of those points.
[QUOTE=Kybalt;16084457]No they don't.[/QUOTE]
Yeah they do. I'm pretty sure Susy doesn't have a baby and the doctor says, "Yup, that is one gay baby."
[QUOTE=tomahawk2;16084513]Yeah they do. I'm pretty sure Susy doesn't have a baby and the doctor says, "Yup, that is one gay baby."[/QUOTE]
Doctors also don't go "Yep, this ones gonna die of cancer in 60 years." Do you choose to die of cancer?
[QUOTE=Kybalt;16084506]I've noticed all of those points.[/QUOTE]
No one has once responded to a point i've made, and i actually favor you in this debate more then anyone else simply because you actually know more then what the media feeds you.
[QUOTE=Kybalt;16084483]Yeah but with how drugs are now, there's more peer pressure to be a rebel and do something illegal and then there's misinformation...[/QUOTE]
When they lifted the ban on alcohol, I'm pretty sure teenagers didn't give up alcohol because it wasn't "cool" anymore.
[QUOTE=tomahawk2;16084513]Yeah they do. I'm pretty sure Susy doesn't have a baby and the doctor says, "Yup, that is one gay baby."[/QUOTE]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohfJCYobSkk[/media]
[QUOTE=tomahawk2;16084513]Yeah they do. I'm pretty sure Susy doesn't have a baby and the doctor says, "Yup, that is one gay baby."[/QUOTE]
It's a mixture of Environmental and biochemcial effects that ultimatly lead someone to being gay, not something you can pick up at birth, it's something you start see between ages 12-16
[QUOTE=tomahawk2;16084578]When they lifted the ban on alcohol, I'm pretty sure teenagers didn't give up alcohol because it wasn't "cool" anymore.[/QUOTE]
True, however, gangsters didn't keep making however much they were making off of alcohol at the time. Also, alcohol isn't as life ruining as other hard drugs.
[QUOTE=Llivavin;16084492]You do know most liberals in the US are considered conservative by the worlds standards right?[/QUOTE]
No, they aren't. Not at all. And "the world standard of conservatism" is not conservatism. Jesus...world standards. Liberals.
Shit shit shit.
[QUOTE=tomahawk2;16084578]When they lifted the ban on alcohol, I'm pretty sure teenagers didn't give up alcohol because it wasn't "cool" anymore.[/QUOTE]
the drinking age back then was 18, and it was far more laxed and it was like that upuntill late 70's early 80's even then the drinking age in some states is still 18 it's just illegal for people to buy it under 21.
I want everybody to shut the fuck up, chill the fuck out, stop fighting, and live in harmony. Then legalize marijuana so we can all get together and chill some more.
But religion and retarded fanboys/girls gone would be great too.
[QUOTE=Kybalt;16084548]Doctors also don't go "Yep, this ones gonna die of cancer in 60 years." Do you choose to die of cancer?[/QUOTE]
Yes. :smug:
Seriously though, cancer is a disease. Homosexuality is a lifestyle.
[url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7456588.stm[/url]
So people just [B]choose[/B] to change a part of their brain?
When did you ever choose you wanted to be heterosexual?
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And the animals, do they choose to be homosexuals too?
[QUOTE=tomahawk2;16084623]Yes. :smug:
Seriously though, cancer is a disease. Homosexuality is a lifestyle.[/QUOTE]
Yet neither are a conscious decision.
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[QUOTE=sp00k!;16084642][url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7456588.stm[/url]
So people just [B]choose[/B] to change a part of their brain?
When did you ever choose you wanted to be heterosexual?
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And the animals, do they choose to be homosexuals too?[/QUOTE]
the anims do it 2 fuk with us becuz of god turst me i know i went 2 highschool
[QUOTE=It.;16084608]No, they aren't. Not at all. And "the world standard of conservatism" is not conservatism. Jesus...world standards. Liberals.
Shit shit shit.[/QUOTE]
I was simply stating that the US is far more conservative compared to the rest of the world.
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