[QUOTE=Squeaken;21521471]I respect our soldiers, but it annoys me how we are obsessed by our greatest failure that was a completely senseless waste of life. We did organize one of the greatest and most efficient retreats of all time though.[/QUOTE]
This is the same way I feel about it.
[QUOTE=Squeaken;21521471]I respect our soldiers, but it annoys me how we are obsessed by our greatest failure that was a completely senseless waste of life. We did organize one of the greatest and most efficient retreats of all time though.[/QUOTE]
That's not the point. It was the first time that we fought not as individual colonies, but as a single nation, it was an event that united the whole country for the first time since federation albeit under fairly sad circumstances. The day is not really about the battle but to honour the fact that the men endured things no man should have to endure, and about the cornerstones of the Anzac spirit: mateship, courage, ingenuity, sacrifice.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kki1kpFCBh0[/media]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gmgwx77osw[/media]
Couple of Aussie songs about Gallipoli and Vietnam.
[QUOTE=Best4bond;21520238]Because Australia has one because it is out worst war...
And it was Winston Churchill idea for the invasion...
ANZAC lost alot of its army in the invasion, Planned by england...
The retreat, Planed by Australia didn't kill one person[/QUOTE]
The main reason is because the intel was poor.
The map they used was a tourist map.
[QUOTE=gnoob;21521156]Today my school had an ANZAC assembly thing. I felt sad that I was the only student in the school who didn't fall asleep in it, and that no one but me was actually moved by the speech that a visiting WWII veteran was delivering.[/QUOTE]
At out school in Australia, We had a past Capitan of a English Royal Navy and he talked about how he was 8 in London during the battle of Britain
Lest we Forget.
What I dont approve of this thread is that [i] thousands [/i] of other troops from France, British India and Canada all fought and died in the same theater of war.
Not to mention all the other Australian troops who died on the Western Front. We only seem to honor those Australians who died in ONE conflict on that ONE cliff side for ONE objective.
Also Best4Bond the British weren't stupid, Winston Churchill didn't control the Gallipoli Campaign. The British made one mistake landing the troops on the wrong cliff face, the whole idea that the Brits didnt care about the Aussies is a complete farce.
[QUOTE=hehe;21523157]Lest we Forget.
What I dont approve of this thread is that [i] thousands [/i] of other troops from France, British India and Canada all fought and died in the same theater of war.
Not to mention all the other Australian troops who died on the Western Front. We only seem to honor those Australians who died in ONE conflict on that ONE cliff side for ONE objective.
Also Best4Bond the British weren't stupid, Winston Churchill didn't control the Gallipoli Campaign. The British made one mistake landing the troops on the wrong cliff face, the whole idea that the Brits didnt care about the Aussies is a complete farce.[/QUOTE]
Then why didn't they decide to drop the anchors, and instead float upwards as they knew a strong, South Northerly wind was coming in that morning?
Also we do celebrate all troops who died/served in all wars that Australia has been apart of, And yes the French, Ect died in the same war, But Anzac day is Australia's largest lost of life
never heard of this before
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfDI2ZjXwK8&feature=related[/media]
Another great Aussie song dedicated to Vietnam Veterans...
Lest we forget.
[QUOTE=SBD;21522656]That's not the point. It was the first time that we fought not as individual colonies, but as a single nation, it was an event that united the whole country for the first time since federation albeit under fairly sad circumstances. The day is not really about the battle but to honour the fact that the men endured things no man should have to endure, and about the cornerstones of the Anzac spirit: mateship, courage, ingenuity, sacrifice.[/QUOTE]
We had plenty of victories in that war.
Australians are doing a good job at defending the country from invading icebergs
[QUOTE=Jessesmith1;21523904]Australians are doing a good job at defending the country from invading icebergs[/QUOTE]
Do you mean the Japs by that?
This is weird for me, I'm Turkish, but I live in Australia.
Anyway, the they both fought hard. Trying to attack/defend their countries.
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I don't mind the japanese, as long as they don't bullshit about killing whales 'for scientific reasons'.
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Or is it chinese?
[QUOTE=QueenElizebeth;21523423][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfDI2ZjXwK8&feature=related[/media]
Another great Aussie song dedicated to Vietnam Veterans...
Lest we forget.[/QUOTE]
Hey, wasn't it your birthday the other day?
[QUOTE=QueenElizebeth;21523423][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfDI2ZjXwK8&feature=related[/media]
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that is a great song, too bad it wasn't played on air after a couple months of its release. [quote=Wikipedia]In August 1978, censors gave it an A Classification, meaning that it was "not suitable for airplay", because of sex and drug references (the line "their legs were often open, but their minds were always closed" was seen as particularly offensive [/quote]
Lest we forget.
[QUOTE=Squeaken;21523853]We had plenty of victories in that war.[/QUOTE]
Did I say we didn't?
[QUOTE=Best4bond;21523250]Then why didn't they decide to drop the anchors, and instead float upwards as they knew a strong, South Northerly wind was coming in that morning?[/QUOTE]
What are you talking about? It was a lack of intelligence and a mistake in the cartography of the maps which made the Australians land on on the wrong beachhead.
I should know, both of the Great Grandfathers fought at Gallipoli.
possibly a song
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SAODf8JPpU[/media]
I love how Turkey was totally cool about what happened, they're one of our bros now.
:love: ANZACs
Lest we forget.
I have an Iron Cross in my cupboard atm.
Before you say anything, it was taken from a dead german.
[QUOTE=PopLot;21540662]Lest we forget.
I have an Iron Cross in my cupboard atm.
Before you say anything, it was taken from a dead german.[/QUOTE]
That's pretty cool
My Great Grandfather was on the HMAS Sydney
Able Seaman Ernest Remfry
Lest we forget
I will give a little background to the guys who do not know what happened at Gallipoli on April 25th 1915...
ANZAC troops arrived at ANZAC Cove (As it's now known) in Turkey, in Australia's first ever mission as an independent country. The task was simple - surprise the Turks, break through their lines and get to Constantinople, opening up a supply route for the Triple Entente members through the sea.
The mission completely backfired, with thousands of Australian and New Zealand troops dying per DAY...in some instances, British troops were as close as 200m away on beaches reportedly sipping tea while Australians died...
At certain points throughout the Gallipoli campaign, ceasefires were called and troops would go into the "no man's land" to collect bodies... During these times, the opposing troops would meet up and trade cigarettes and cards and all sorts of stuff...And then hours later trying to blow each others heads off...
Through the Gallipoli campaign, ANZAC troops got a name and reputation for themselves as being dedicated, hard working, friendly troops, who always developed a strong sense of mateship and always looked out for each other...
In the retreat of ANZAC troops, not one person was injured...They set up an ingenious system of automatic gun firing to make it seem as though they weren't retreating...
I say it again - lest we forget...It was a suicidal mission that the British refused to let go, and the casualties were very high as a result..
Don't forget the ANZAC bravery in North Africa.
Alongside fellow British and Commonwealth troops, ANZACs helped deliver stinging defeats to even the best of German armies. The Battle of Tobruk for example.
[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Tobruk[/URL]
[QUOTE=Best4bond;21519212]
[release]They went with songs to the battle, they were young.
Straight of limb, true of eyes, steady and aglow.
They were staunch to the end against odds uncounted,
They fell with their faces to the foe.
They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning,
We will remember them.[/release][/QUOTE]
I love the Ode of Remembrance
What the shit. NSW premier doesn't know the anthem
:argh:
Lest We forget
And if people are wondering why we have a poppy for ANZAC day id because when the troops arrived in Gallipoli there was a huge field of red poppies and that's why we have a poppy as our ANZAC symbol.
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