• Dispatches: Hunted: Documenting Russian Neo-Nazi's Anti-Gay "Safaris"
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[QUOTE=Silly Sil;43836916]What are you even saying? That everyone who does this doesn't have have his own opinion? Are you refusing to believe someone can actually think that homosexuality is wrong or evil? What about all the homophobes who never beat anyone up? What about homophobes over 30? Are they all following the latest trend that hatred of certain group of people is considered cool? I told you I know people like that too yet you're constantly trying to explain to me what they are like I have no idea and repeating yourself.[/QUOTE] Dammit, we were arguing over prevalence of the group I'm describing, or if there're other people acting like that? Because I've never said that street brawlers are THE ONLY PEOPLE out there who can do that. Certainly, there're people who believe homosexuality is a bad thing and act on their beliefs, but they are a minority. That's literally all I was saying. I may have worded a couple of my phrases vaguely enough to be somewhat misleading, but I made sure to to exclaim "most of" at every opportunity. I also said that those in the video almost certainly belong to the category I'm talking about, which was the relevance of my post.
As the school teacher said, they're unhappy and need to focus their hatred on something, and it's in the government's best interest to help direct it somewhere. Else they will come to the realization that it's their own government which is the cause of their depression. It's the same for any other country, just not nearly at this disgusting magnitude.
[QUOTE=gudman;43837052]Dammit, we were arguing over prevalence of the group I'm describing, or if there're other people acting like that? Because I've never said that street brawlers are THE ONLY PEOPLE out there who can do that. Certainly, there're people who believe homosexuality is a bad thing and act on their beliefs, but they are a minority. That's literally all I was saying. I may have worded a couple of my phrases vaguely enough to be somewhat misleading, but I made sure to to exclaim "most of" at every opportunity. I also said that those in the video almost certainly belong to the category I'm talking about, which was the relevance of my post.[/QUOTE] Most certainly these people are in any militant groups. But those "street brawlers" are fucking retarded, they wouldn't be handling "presents" and shit, they wouldn't try to make a point or argue at all. I just feel like the fact that both the church and state support this, you have more people from the second group. I might be wrong. But like I said, I wouldn't go as far and say that vast majority of them are the "don't care who I beat up today" type. At least not when it comes to the anti-gay russian groups.
[QUOTE=Cjk592;43836614]Call me sensationalist, but the people perpetrating these acts of savagery deserve to be killed.[/QUOTE] You think just like them, don't you find?
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;43837324]Most certainly these people are in any militant groups. But those "street brawlers" are fucking retarded, they wouldn't be handling "presents" and shit, they wouldn't try to make a point or argue at all. I just feel like the fact that both the church and state support this, you have more people from the second group. I might be wrong. But like I said, I wouldn't go as far and say that vast majority of them are the "don't care who I beat up today" type. At least not when it comes to the anti-gay russian groups.[/QUOTE] Vast majority of the actual thugs, who do the dirty shit, are "don't care" types. That's straignt fact. Same for neo-nazis and stuff like that. The fact that you can get one talking to you, spewing shit he doesn't really understand, doesn't mean a thing. But yeah, the more government... it's not like they actually support it I don't think, the violence. I'd say they [/i]don't really discourage[/i], know what I mean? Like, they don't mind it all that much. Anyway, the more government and church do that, the more actual bigots start acting on their beliefs, yes, that is unquestionable.
Pardon me interrupting this argument, but I'd just like to add one thing. The reason the "looking for someone to beat up" types are so attracted to neo-nazi/fascism is because those ideologies are founded upon violence for violence's sake. All the ideals of Fascism can be summed up as "looking to beat up someone". To them, violence is and end, and not (just) the means.
[QUOTE=staticman;43837998]Pardon me interrupting this argument, but I'd just like to add one thing. The reason the "looking for someone to beat up" types are so attracted to neo-nazi/fascism is because those ideologies are founded upon violence for violence's sake. All the ideals of Fascism can be summed up as "looking to beat up someone". To them, violence is and end, and not (just) the means.[/QUOTE] This is correct, yes. They want to fight, and/or beat someone up, and they group up around stuff that provides them the target and organization.
Yo, this is pure evil.
[QUOTE=gudman;43838041]This is correct, yes. They want to fight, and/or beat someone up, and they group up around stuff that provides them the target and organization.[/QUOTE] Even before/during World War 2, that's what Fascism was about nothing but violence. See: Forever War ideology.
[QUOTE=Cjk592;43836614]Call me sensationalist, but the people perpetrating these acts of savagery deserve to be killed.[/QUOTE] And, to be fair, that's the identical pipeline of thought that some of the people in the video have.
[QUOTE=Crazy Ivan;43835079] Jesus though this made me sad. I study Russian Language very seriously. I have a boyfriend. Oh well, guess I'll have to choose one or the other.[/QUOTE] If that's honestly what you think then you probably aren't very serious about either.
[QUOTE=Rixxz2;43838321]And, to be fair, that's the identical pipeline of thought that some of the people in the video have.[/QUOTE] I'd argue there's a pretty distinctive difference between using lethal force in the prevention of an assault/kidnapping, to beating and torturing people for having different sexual tastes.
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;43839680]I'd argue there's a pretty distinctive difference between using lethal force in the prevention of an assault/kidnapping, to beating and torturing people for having different sexual tastes.[/QUOTE] Hm, yes, I misinterpreted Cjk592's post, I thought he meant it in the way that he believed that anyone who share their opinions deserve to die.
Meanwhile, the entire internet goes "LOL Putin's such a badass"
[QUOTE=Number-41;43840066]Meanwhile, the entire internet goes "LOL Putin's such a badass"[/QUOTE] It's a joke same way NK is called Best Korea.
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I went through the whole thing and now I feel like shit. I am glad for not being part of a minority and hope for my life that I never end up being part of one. Btw these 'occupy pedophilia' are the real scum of the earth. And don't get me started on that fucking swine son of a bitch priest.
I regret watching this. I'm going to go hide under my blankets and cry or something.
Jesus christ, I never knew it was this bad. I kinda feel guilty for not looking it up earlier..
[QUOTE=Dysgalt;43841074]I regret watching this. I'm going to go hide under my blankets and cry or something.[/QUOTE]Be afraid. Russian gay hunters will travel far distances to get your ass.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;43849262]Be afraid. Russian gay hunters will travel far distances to get your ass.[/QUOTE] Get his ass? Gay hunters being gays themselves, twist of the century.
I've never been so angry watching a video in my life.
[QUOTE=gudman;43849319]Get his ass? Gay hunters being gays themselves, twist of the century.[/QUOTE]They want all that manass to themselves.
hey soleeedus i cant tell if you are a troll or just pure scum [editline]9th February 2014[/editline] the whole time they were torutring that man in their "HQ" i wanted nothing more than for the room to explode or burn that evil woman's red hair should make her easy to spot
[QUOTE=notlabbet;43850183]hey soleeedus i cant tell if you are a troll or just pure scum [/QUOTE] I think he's genuinely being an asshole.
[QUOTE=gudman;43849319]Get his ass? Gay hunters being gays themselves, twist of the century.[/QUOTE] That's actually pretty common, a lot of people turn to excessive homophobia out of a fear of their own homosexual tendencies.
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;43851359]That's actually pretty common, a lot of people turn to excessive homophobia out of a fear of their own homosexual tendencies.[/QUOTE] It is obvious they are gay. So many men with one girl and nothing happened? Gay.
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