[QUOTE=Zeke129;30188037]In Quebec you'll do fine in pretty much any urban centre if you know either. Knowing French is definitely an asset in places like Quebec City but in Montreal it doesn't matter as much. As for rural Quebec, I'm going to guess that it's almost exclusively French but I don't know.[/QUOTE]
I see. I know of French communities here (Saint-Denis, Bellegarde, etc.) and they seem to really flourish once they are around other Francophones. There are French areas in Saskatoon, especially near Broadway and Victoria school, and they might have a bit more difficulty, but it's still definitely do-able.
Though I find that people who speak languages like French, Ukrainian, etc. are better off in rural areas because they can easily find a small community that speaks their language of choice.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;30188037]In Quebec you'll do fine in pretty much any urban centre if you know either. Knowing French is definitely an asset in places like Quebec City but in Montreal it doesn't matter as much. As for rural Quebec, I'm going to guess that it's almost exclusively French but I don't know.[/QUOTE]
Well in my small assed town, it's possible.
I just want to see a Canadian Civil War. The maple syrup of the dead would coat the streets. The bags of milk would burst in mourning for the loss of a united Canada. And all the other countries would have a good laugh.
So for everyone who isn't from Quebec and didn't read the whole thread:
- We do learn english, I started learning it when i was 4 years old..
- Most of us aren't separatist
- Last time we voted to separe it was 50/50, but now it would be 20% yes 80% no
- Yes you can survive here without knowing english, but it does make a big difference when you are getting chose in most summer jobs, ex: restaurent, cinemas, etc. Because there is a minority of people who only speaks english.
Les Québécois sont drole. (The Quebecois are so funny.) But I'm neutral.
[QUOTE=kaine123;30188266]I just want to see a Canadian Civil War. The maple syrup of the dead would coat the streets. The bags of milk would burst in mourning for the loss of a united Canada. And all the other countries would have a good laugh.[/QUOTE]
As long as it doesn't interrupt the hockey eh
Quebec separatists are separating for shallow reasons, they really at large just hate having to learn English, and hate the English in general.
[QUOTE=Funktastic Dog;30189096]Quebec separatists are separating for shallow reasons, they really at large just hate having to learn English, and hate the English in general.[/QUOTE]
No that isn't it at all
It's leftover from british oppression, like pretty much everything
[QUOTE=Soviet Russia;30170110]Quebec trying to be its own country is almost as bad as the natives who are still butthurt about how we tricked them over 200 years ago.[/QUOTE]
...As well as spent the next 160-175 years keeping them within Residential Schools in the care of Catholic priests who abused them physically, emotionally, and mentally, as well as sexually molested them. No big deal though, they're JUST natives, right?
:downs:
[QUOTE=MaveDustaine;30189342]...As well as spent the next 160-175 years keeping them within Residential Schools in the care of Catholic priests who abused them physically, emotionally, and mentally, as well as sexually molested them. No big deal though, they're JUST natives, right?
:downs:[/QUOTE]
The issue isn't even the past, they're still being treated poorly [i]today[/i] and they have a damn good reason to be angry
[quote]Most of you have probably heard about Quebec nationalism at some point in your life, even if you aren't Canadian. [/quote]
No.
This shouldn't happen and will not. Quebec succeeding will hurt the Canadian Economy too much for starters.
[QUOTE=Baldr 2.0;30189593]I heard there terrible at speaking French, never bothered to check if it was true.[/QUOTE]
They aren't terrible at it, it's a different dialect of French that varies. There are different regions to many countries, and they have different dialects. For example, there's many different places that speak Ukrainian, all over the world. Saskatchewan-Ukrainians will speak and pronounce differently compared to Ukrainian Argentine.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;30189416]The issue isn't even the past, they're still being treated poorly [i]today[/i] and they have a damn good reason to be angry[/QUOTE]
Being Aboriginal myself I know this all too well. Just pick up any newspaper and it's obvious, if an article involves the treaties, native people, or government plans for aboriginals there WILL be an obvious bias/slant against them. It's fucking pathetic. And they say this shit only happens to blacks in America.
[QUOTE=MaveDustaine;30189765]And they say this shit only happens to blacks in America.[/QUOTE]
Who says this? Native Americans got fucking raped here, it was the worst.
-snip-
I'm Canadian and I appose it, I think we can work together instead of separating, as long as we respect each others culture
[QUOTE=Zeke129;30188037]In Quebec you'll do fine in pretty much any urban centre if you know either. Knowing French is definitely an asset in places like Quebec City but in Montreal it doesn't matter as much. As for rural Quebec, I'm going to guess that it's almost exclusively French but I don't know.[/QUOTE]
I've only ever been to Quebec City and I can say that all the tourist places, the fast food places, and most of the convenience stores speak English, and at a Subway somewhere on the highway the employees there mentioned something about English being required for retail service in Quebec. Not sure if that was company-specific or province-wide, but everyone in Quebec City that a tourist would need to talk to spoke English fine.
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;30191816]I've only ever been to Quebec City and I can say that all the tourist places, the fast food places, and most of the convenience stores speak English, and at a Subway somewhere on the highway the employees there mentioned something about English being required for retail service in Quebec. Not sure if that was company-specific or province-wide, but everyone in Quebec City that a tourist would need to talk to spoke English fine.[/QUOTE]
If I'm a tourist I'm most certainly not going to be in a fast food restaurant
[QUOTE=Zeke129;30191837]If I'm a tourist I'm most certainly not going to be in a fast food restaurant[/QUOTE]
Well they speak English too, and I was there on a school trip, we didn't exactly have a long time for lunch to find a fancy restaurant and wait 40 minutes to ask for a waiter who speaks English, then another 5-20 minutes to be served (probably an exaggeration, I'm sure most waiters speak English too). There was one dinner where the teachers told the waiters at the restaurant not to serve us unless we spoke in French though.
Anyways, to order food you only need a really simple knowledge of the French language.
[QUOTE=yaik9a;30185341]Here is a idea give them the part in the red
[img]http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/6928/quebec1.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Nothing Wrong with this play ether because Canada is still linked to Atlantic and the French get there country.
LE QUÉBEC AUX FRANÇAIS!
Would this actuially provide any benefits
Quebec getting independence is silly. Nations should be merging and working together instead of dividing for petty reasons.
Like Scotland wanting independence. SNP is all about promoting Scottish culture and shit, when most Scots minus a few farmers have been speaking English for the past 1000 years. Independence creates more paperwork, more bullshit and wastes time.
Oh look Quebec wants independence, nothing new here folks. If they did get independence, gg to their nation.
[QUOTE=Acrono;30200291]Oh look Quebec wants independence[/QUOTE]
Didn't realize a geographical region is capable of want
if Quebec did become indepenedent, what of the other bits of canada on the other side of quebec (like newfoundland)?
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[QUOTE=Sobotnik;30199396]Quebec getting independence is silly. Nations should be merging and working together instead of dividing for petty reasons.
Like Scotland wanting independence. SNP is all about promoting Scottish culture and shit, when most Scots minus a few farmers have been speaking English for the past 1000 years. Independence creates more paperwork, more bullshit and wastes time.[/QUOTE]
actually, the middle ground between independence & dependece is the worse. If they split, the wouldnt be totally fucked (like when Pakistan split from India, now pakiland looks like the clock stopped 50 years ago), just would be like greenland in the terms of power.
[QUOTE=Eltro102;30202230]if Quebec did become indepenedent, what of the other bits of canada on the other side of quebec (like newfoundland)?[/QUOTE]
we'd just be over here chillin'
catching some fish, saltin' some cod.
making money off of muskrat falls when it gets built. No big deal.
[editline]2nd June 2011[/editline]
plus we're an island, so were already pretty isolated from Canada as it is, sort of.
A lot of the original support for Quebec Independence was derived from French-Canadians feeling that they were second-class citizens in Canada. This was particularly true in much of the 1800s where French culture was more or less discouraged and a policy of forced assimilation took place. One such example was the colonial government forbidding construction permits to French-Canadians- or at least making it ridiculously hard to get them- while streamlining those for English settlers.
Into the 1900s the discrimination began to subside a bit but it was still present in some ways and French-Canadians found it hard to get their demands expressed in political life. With economic conditions the way they were, many French areas were underdeveloped compared to English-speaking areas- so there was impetus for independence because it was felt to be the only way where they could have a chance at getting what they 'rightfully' deserved.
With changes over the past few decades regarding the use of French language and more even economic development, lot of the original support for Quebec independence I think is not there any more, or at least as strong. I wouldn't support Quebec independence at this juncture (though I would have in say the 1800s), but I think some form of autonomy might be a good compromise.
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