Tropes vs Women in Video Games - Damsel in Distress

[ayejayjay]

[QUOTE=Shadaez;39848553]fuck off shitty jokes like that are awful is basically saying
"oh man this dude who shows emotion and such = a woman LOL"
you are part of the problem

[editline]8th March 2013[/editline]

also I have a new title THANKS[/QUOTE]

I used to think posts like "YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM" were ironic, but this is real, holy shit.
I had to double check my URL to see if I was on Tumblr.

[IM BATMAN]

Also can we take this shit to Mass Debate already, I think we're pretty tired of seeing this arguement on the front page 24/7 instead of funny/interesting videos.

{(Damn you post merge!)

[Shadaez]

[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;39848598]But I wasnt calling roxas a women due to anything.

I just said it to throw people off, but thanks for saying it was a misogynistic stereotype, maybe if you throw those works around enough you will get it right.[/QUOTE]

right, okay

he doesn't look stereotypically male though, and looks quite effeminate totally sure that has nothing to do with it tho right ok
[QUOTE=IM BATMAN;39848625]Also can we take this shit to Mass Debate already, I think we're pretty tired of seeing this arguement on the front page 24/7 instead of funny/interesting videos.

{(Damn you post merge!)[/QUOTE]

no, while a real debate would be cool because these trolls would be banned, this is about a video you know you can control yourself and *not* click this if you dont wana see it

[QUOTE=AJisAwesome15;39848624]I used to think posts like "YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM" were ironic, but this is real, holy shit.
I had to double check my URL to see if I was on Tumblr.[/QUOTE]

explain how jokingly misgendering someone in a debate having to do with sexism is at all appropriate though? it's totally not

[yawmwen]

and if you are trying to make a logical argument(laughable considering the drivel you were giving earlier), then why would you insert some random ass "joke" to throw people off?

it just makes you look sorta dumb.

[thisispain]

[QUOTE=IM BATMAN;39848625]Also can we take this shit to Mass Debate already, I think we're pretty tired of seeing this arguement on the front page 24/7 instead of funny/interesting videos.

{(Damn you post merge!)[/QUOTE]

if you dont like it then dont go into the thread

[editline]8th March 2013[/editline]

[QUOTE=yawmwen;39848634]and if you are trying to make a logical argument(laughable considering the drivel you were giving earlier), then why would you insert some random ass "joke" to throw people off?

it just makes you look sorta dumb.[/QUOTE]

yeah i dont understand at all

[Last or First]

[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;39848598]But I wasnt calling roxas a women due to anything.

I just said it to throw people off, but thanks for saying it was a misogynistic stereotype, maybe if you throw those works around enough you will get it right.[/QUOTE]
But why Roxas instead of Axel or Goofy? Or even some random guy from another game, like Master Chief? Hell, at least then you could say the joke is that we've never seen his face.

This [I]on top of[/I] my point before.

[HoodedSniper]

1 joke and you can see how tight people asses are, who then go apeshit for a page and a half

Just realized how big of a joke of the people ive been arguing with are.

[kanesenpai~]

[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;39848655]1 joke and you can see how tight people asses are, who then go apeshit for a page and a half

Just realized how big of a joke of the people ive been arguing with are.[/QUOTE]

Yo bro, you're kinda digging yourself into a mighty deep hole here.

[Last or First]

[QUOTE=IM BATMAN;39848593]Lol you've had that title since yesterday and IMO its been fitting so far.[/QUOTE]
get a load of this guy
they don't like sexism

what a fucking asshole

[ChestyMcGee]

all feminists are tight asses who can't take really shit jokes made about characters in video games not everyone has played

[thisispain]

[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;39848655]1 joke and you can see how tight people asses are, who then go apeshit for a page and a half

Just realized how big of a joke of the people ive been arguing with are.[/QUOTE]

no im just confused because i dont know what your point is you didnt answer my totally reasonable question and you threw in some random "joke" (what was the joke?) and now everyones like "what?"

if you dont like talking to us then dont no-ones forcing you to post, id much rather debate with JeanLuc761 anyway lmao

[HoodedSniper]

[QUOTE=Last or First;39848650]But why Roxas instead of Axel or Goofy? Or even some random guy from another game, like Master Chief? Hell, at least then you could say the joke is that we've never seen his face.

This [I]on top of[/I] my point before.[/QUOTE]

Why does it matter who it is?

[yawmwen]

[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;39848692]Why does it matter who it is?[/QUOTE]

i agree, no matter who the character was the joke would have still been pretty terrible.

[Shadaez]

[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;39848692]Why does it matter who it is?[/QUOTE]

Look, it's obvious why you did it. Stop backpedelling.
You chose an effeminite looking dude and said he was a girl because the way he looked, which IS seriously a problem.
[QUOTE=Last or First;39848683]get a load of this guy
they don't like sexism

what a fucking asshole[/QUOTE]

pls stop being mean to the 'nice guys'

for real I think this is why people who think the friendzone is a legit thing and how us 'assholes' always get women

[thisispain]

[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;39848692]Why does it matter who it is?[/QUOTE]

this is an awful joke
two old jewish ladies were sitting at a restaurant. one says to the other "My god the food here is just terrible!" the other old lady responds with "I know, and such small portions too!"

[editline]8th March 2013[/editline]

[QUOTE=Shadaez;39848721]Look, it's obvious why you did it. Stop backpedelling.[/QUOTE]

maybe he legit thought he was just making a terrible joke and it backfired lol

[IM BATMAN]

[url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1252520[/url]

There, a new thread on Mass Debate JUST for you guys. Because you're that special :smile:.

[HoodedSniper]

[QUOTE=Shadaez;39848721]Look, it's obvious why you did it. Stop backpedelling.
You chose an effeminite looking dude and said he was a girl because the way he looked, which IS seriously a problem.

pls stop being mean to the 'nice guys'

for real I think this is why people who think the friendzone is a legit thing and how us 'assholes' always get women[/QUOTE]

I chose Roxas because I was thinking of KH characters, I know laxerine is 1 but I dont know enough to say anything about her since she doesnt have a role in 1 or 2, Kairi is a bad choice, so I just said Roxas, its that fucking simple.

So it actually has nothing with looks, so get your fucking head out of your ass and stop assuming and thinking its a problem, it was just a retarded joke.

Who the fuck are you to say whos a problem?

[thisispain]

[QUOTE=IM BATMAN;39848750][url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1252520[/url]

There, a new thread on Mass Debate JUST for you guys. Because you're that special :smile:.[/QUOTE]

and you totally fucked up because you didnt read the rules of that section

[Shadaez]

[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;39848756]I chose Roxas because I was thinking of KH characters, I know laxerine is 1 but I dont know enough to say anything about her since she doesnt have a role in 1 or 2, Kairi is a bad choice, so I just said Roxas, its that fucking simple.

So it actually has nothing with looks, so get your fucking head out of your ass and stop assuming and thinking its a problem, it was just a retarded joke.

Who the fuck are you to say whos a problem?[/QUOTE]

OK, it's just a bit suspect.

[IM BATMAN]

[QUOTE=thisispain;39848767]and you totally fucked up because you didnt read the rules of that section[/QUOTE]

From what I remember from reading them a day ago the only thing I missed is a good arguement, which honestly I'd much rather have one of you start the arguement since mine is not that good. Also could you stop being such a hardass :v:

[HoodedSniper]

[QUOTE=Shadaez;39848774]OK, it's just a bit suspect.[/QUOTE]

You shouldnt be calling people out and assuming shit left and right and saying others are a problem, it makes you look retarded.

[Last or First]

[QUOTE=yawmwen;39848714]i agree, no matter who the character was the joke would have still been pretty terrible.[/QUOTE]
The joke would still be terrible, yes. But there's something else:
[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;39848692]Why does it matter who it is?[/QUOTE]
The thing is, you've been saying "I [I]never ever[/I] let media affect me!", but when you joke about a man being a woman, you [I]just so happen[/I] to choose an effeminate looking one. If you chose him for no reason, then your method for choosing would be to choose a completely random male character. And there are many better known male characters (that would generally not be targeted for being seemingly effeminate) that would surely pop up in your mind faster.

Let me go back to a point I made many pages back: no one thinks there's a deliberate conspiracy. The problem is that the sexism is [I]subconscious[/I], as in [I]you're contributing to sexism (even if just a tiny bit) even though you're not even doing it on purpose.[/I]
And again, straw that broke the camel's back.

[Shadaez]

[QUOTE=IM BATMAN;39848781]From what I remember from reading them a day ago the only thing I missed is a good arguement, which honestly I'd much rather have one of you start the arguement since mine is not that good.[/QUOTE]

we can start our own threads fyi, now you're just gonna get banned
if I were to start a thread in Mass Debate relating to the video it would be titles,"Misogyny in today's video game industry"
something like that, I wouldn't post a video

[Key_in_skillee]

Why is it so many people in this topic are suddenly failing to use capitalization and punctuation?

It's really fucking odd.

[MIR]

[QUOTE=IM BATMAN;39848781]From what I remember from reading them a day ago the only thing I missed is a good arguement, which honestly I'd much rather have one of you start the arguement since mine is not that good. Also could you stop being such a hardass :v:[/QUOTE]

You can't not have an argument in the OP. And you need some facts to throw into that argument besides Anita's video.

[Ownederd]

[QUOTE=Key_in_skillee;39848802]Why is it so many people in this topic are suddenly failing to use capitalization and punctuation?

It's really fucking odd.[/QUOTE]

honestly who cares

this has nothing to do w/ the thread

[kanesenpai~]

[QUOTE=Key_in_skillee;39848802]Why is it so many people in this topic are suddenly failing to use capitalization and punctuation?

It's really fucking odd.[/QUOTE]

Remember when FP had the Smartness system? Those were the days.

[thisispain]

[QUOTE=IM BATMAN;39848781]From what I remember from reading them a day ago the only thing I missed is a good arguement, which honestly I'd much rather have one of you start the arguement since mine is not that good. Also could you stop being such a hardass :v:[/QUOTE]

(User was banned for this post ("No debate presented, asking a question" - Megafan))

im not being a hardass, im telling you that you get banned for doing that

[yawmwen]

[QUOTE=Key_in_skillee;39848802]Why is it so many people in this topic are suddenly failing to use capitalization and punctuation?

It's really fucking odd.[/QUOTE]

becuz im an old grizzled fp vet who is just too old for this shit. i play the rules loose just like my women!

or maybe this isn't a novel so i don't hold myself to an incredibly high standard for punctuation and capitalization.

[HoodedSniper]

[QUOTE=Last or First;39848799]The joke would still be terrible, yes. But there's something else:

The thing is, you've been saying "I [I]never ever[/I] let media affect me!", but when you joke about a man being a woman, you [I]just so happen[/I] to choose an effeminate looking one. If you chose him for no reason, then your method for choosing would be to choose a completely random male character. And there are many better known male characters (that would generally not be targeted for being seemingly effeminate) that would surely pop up in your mind faster.

Let me go back to a point I made many pages back: no one thinks there's a deliberate conspiracy. The problem is that the sexism is [I]subconscious[/I], as in [I]you're contributing to sexism (even if just a tiny bit) even though you're not even doing it on purpose.[/I]
And again, straw that broke the camel's back.[/QUOTE]

Whats so girly looking about Roxas? I think he looks fine.

You are the one saying he looks effeminate, not me, it actually never crossed my mind, and I still dont see it after you said it.