Tropes vs Women in Video Games - Damsel in Distress - General

[QUOTE=RoadOfGirl;39850551]pathetic in what regard? who cares? the only people that would ever get mad about disabled ratings are people that want to give it poor ratings, no?[/QUOTE] Exactly why it's pathetic to disable ratings. Ratings are a silent way to express an opinion on the video, if you know it's going to be rated badly and you disable ratings you're trying to hide and silence those opinions. It's like if aliens colonial marines didn't allow early reviews before it's release in an attempt to hide how bad it would be judged.

[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;39850634]It doesnt really matter at all, its just pathetic and ive said why.[/QUOTE] why do you feel the need to make a point of it if it's irrelevant? [editline]9th March 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=mooman1080;39850636]Exactly why it's pathetic to disable ratings. Ratings are a silent way to express an opinion on the video, if you know it's going to be rated badly and you disable ratings you're trying to hide and silence those opinions. It's like if aliens colonial marines didn't allow early reviews before it's release in an attempt to hide how bad it would be judged.[/QUOTE] game companies do that all the time to hide poor scores.

[QUOTE=RoadOfGirl;39850639]why do you feel the need to make a point of it if it's irrelevant? [editline]9th March 2013[/editline] game companies do that all the time to hide poor scores.[/QUOTE] But its not irrelevant, its a thing, it doesnt matter that much, but its still a thing going on and its pathetic of her. How many times do I need to say this. And just because game companies do it doesnt make it okay ever, its pathetic when they do it or anyone.

[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;39850671]But its not irrelevant, its a thing, it doesnt matter that much, but its still a thing going on and its pathetic of her. How many times do I need to say this.[/QUOTE] it is completely irrelevant and has nothing to do with the content of the video itself or the points she is trying to make

[QUOTE=RoadOfGirl;39850639] game companies do that all the time to hide poor scores.[/QUOTE] Exactly, and people hate it, they absolutely hate it. They hate that people releasing the content know it will be badly received and try to hide that criticism. Unfair or not, I think any video on youtube should be open to criticism.

[QUOTE=mooman1080;39850636]Exactly why it's pathetic to disable ratings. Ratings are a silent way to express an opinion on the video, if you know it's going to be rated badly and you disable ratings you're trying to hide and silence those opinions. It's like if aliens colonial marines didn't allow early reviews before it's release in an attempt to hide how bad it would be judged.[/QUOTE] except people would dislike it immediately due to preconceived opinions on the video and it would end up like EA's latest round of damage control. you have to let people have feedback, but you take precautions to guarantee a shitstorm or spam doesn't occur. require approval, same as most of her videos, but have the integrity to allow valid criticism rather than removing anything dissenting.

[QUOTE=RoadOfGirl;39850678]it is completely irrelevant and has nothing to do with the content of the video itself or the points she is trying to make[/QUOTE] But it has to do with the video itself since ratings are a part of it. Why is this so hard to understand dude.

[QUOTE=mooman1080;39850684]Exactly, and people hate it, they absolutely hate it. They hate that people releasing the content know it will be badly received and try to hide that criticism. Unfair or not, I think any video on youtube should be open to criticism.[/QUOTE] it's not criticism though! to criticize work like this requires more than a "thumbs up thumbs down" and "500 character comment" system. relevant articles or video responses detailing why her analysis is bunk is needed. this is closer to "intellectual shit", which has a much higher standard for criticism than the youtube comment system will allow. [editline]9th March 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=HoodedSniper;39850714]But it has to do with the video itself since ratings are a part of it. Why is this so hard to understand dude.[/QUOTE] is her analysis any more or less wrong due to the choice to disable ratings?

[QUOTE=Devodiere;39850599]i guess it comes right back to if you want to make a different to the public zeitgeist, or if you want to cater to those already in your pocket who might be nice to you. i'm more for influencing people who might not consider themselves feminists, but anita is free to fuck around and do her own pointless thing all she wants. and given i pretty much repeated what he said, you can just take that into account and give up on him. just like with anita, i needed to spoonfeed it to you, but i'm an adult so i tolerate it.[/QUOTE] you're an alright dude and im sorry for getting so defensive but, i'd appreciate if you stopped patronizing me [editline]8th March 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=HoodedSniper;39850714]But it has to do with the video itself since ratings are a part of it. Why is this so hard to understand dude.[/QUOTE] how is it a part of it? it has nothing to do with the video

Is it not true that most video games are centered around physical confrontations, and that as a basic fact of biology men are often stronger and faster than women? It's not just a fact.

like for real the video would obviously be WAY in the red if ratings were on, because the people wathcing and rating would be all the angry people it gets shared around to (reddit, FP, dem silly 4channers, other shitholes)

[QUOTE=yawmwen;39850726]it's not criticism though! to criticize work like this requires more than a "thumbs up thumbs down" and "500 character comment" system. relevant articles or video responses detailing why her analysis is bunk is needed. this is closer to "intellectual shit", which has a much higher standard for criticism than the youtube comment system will allow. [/QUOTE] Ya my bad, it's not full fledged criticism yes, but it's still a way of expressing opinion on the video.

[QUOTE=Falubii;39850743]Is it not true that most video games are centered around physical confrontations, and that as a basic fact of biology men are often stronger and faster than women? It's not just a fact.[/QUOTE] so? women can run, jump, and shoot things too

[QUOTE=mooman1080;39850684]Exactly, and people hate it, they absolutely hate it. They hate that people releasing the content know it will be badly received and try to hide that criticism. Unfair or not, I think any video on youtube should be open to criticism.[/QUOTE] well you're critiquing it right now lol. Just because it's badly received doesn't mean it's actually poor content. She shouldn't have to dig through hundreds of god awful comments to find one good one for YOUR sake, etc.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;39850726]it's not criticism though! to criticize work like this requires more than a "thumbs up thumbs down" and "500 character comment" system. relevant articles or video responses detailing why her analysis is bunk is needed. this is closer to "intellectual shit", which has a much higher standard for criticism than the youtube comment system will allow. [editline]9th March 2013[/editline] is her analysis any more or less wrong due to the choice to disable ratings?[/QUOTE] Has nothing to do with the analysis, this conversation is going fucking no where. Its this simple, disabling comments on any youtube video is a pathetic thing to do because you are so scared over a little bar that you have to disable it from public view, its pathetic.

[QUOTE=Shadaez;39850760]so? women can run, jump, and shoot things too[/QUOTE] Yes, but not necessarily as well as men.

[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;39850714]But it has to do with the video itself since ratings are a part of it. Why is this so hard to understand dude.[/QUOTE] noooo it does not have anything to do with the CONTENT of the video. watching it on facepunch you can't even see the ratings.

[QUOTE=Last or First;39850277][img]http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/427/127/d64.png[/img][/QUOTE] I think it turned out the person he was "talking" to was a man lol Even TheAmazingAtheist is a male-rape-trivializing feminazi misandrist!

[QUOTE=Falubii;39850768]Yes, but not necessarily as well as men.[/QUOTE] :biotruth:

[QUOTE=Falubii;39850768]Yes, but not necessarily as well as men.[/QUOTE] again, so what? [editline]9th March 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=HoodedSniper;39850764]Has nothing to do with the analysis, this conversation is going fucking no where. Its this simple, disabling comments on any youtube video is a pathetic thing to do because you are so scared over a little bar that you have to disable it from public view, its pathetic.[/QUOTE] you say this over and over and we get it, you think it's pathetic. are you going to move on or just keep repeating yourself.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;39850726]it's not criticism though! to criticize work like this requires more than a "thumbs up thumbs down" and "500 character comment" system. relevant articles or video responses detailing why her analysis is bunk is needed. this is closer to "intellectual shit", which has a much higher standard for criticism than the youtube comment system will allow. [editline]9th March 2013[/editline] is her analysis any more or less wrong due to the choice to disable ratings?[/QUOTE] well it's not a very good analysis regardless, but you underestimate what you can do with a small character limit. obviously you can't write a thesis, but criticisms such as "80% history and trivia, 20% actual discussion, be succinct and cut the fat" is certainly valid. allowing comments would've helped as long as she doesn't turn it into happy-smile-land with moderation. [QUOTE=Shadaez;39850737]you're an alright dude and im sorry for getting so defensive but, i'd appreciate if you stopped patronizing me[/QUOTE] no. this is the internet and i am an asshole, this is my natural habitat. i also post like this because i enjoy heated debates where i am the antagonist and it's the easiest way to draw attention. #donthate

[QUOTE=Devodiere;39850309]jesus fucking christ, are you people retarded? YOU DO NOT DISREGARD SOMEONE'S ARGUMENTS BECAUSE OF WHO THEY ARE, THIS IS AN AD HOMINEM, NOT PETTY NAME-CALLING. i couldn't give two fucks if he was a nazi, if he makes a valid argument then you consider it rather than throwing it out and attacking the person. how is this a hard concept to grasp? why the hell do i have to explain what an ad hominem is? why is it so hard to ignore one mention of someone when copy-pasting their exact argument would have done the same thing? i know this thread's a circus and i'm being inflammatory as fuck, but really now.[/QUOTE] Pointing out hypocrisy is [b]not[/b] ad hominem. It can be a fallacy in and of itself, but so is assuming that an argument is invalid because it contains a fallacy.

[QUOTE=Shadaez;39850752]like for real the video would obviously be WAY in the red if ratings were on, because the people wathcing and rating would be all the angry people it gets shared around to (reddit, FP, dem silly 4channers, other shitholes)[/QUOTE] You asked not to be patronized in an earlier post yet you now just called out multiple communitys who didnt agree with you, generalize them and say they are just angry and that other communitys are shitholes? I seriously dont understand you dude, do you not expect to be talked down upon when you act like this?

[QUOTE=Zeke129;39850788]Pointing out hypocrisy is [b]not[/b] ad hominem.[/QUOTE] no, but disregarding him because of shit like this is. his point wasn't even about sexism, it was about managing your public image and making things worse because you're scared of a few assholes.

[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;39850789]You asked not to be patronized in an earlier post yet you now just called out multiple communitys who didnt agree with you, generalize them and say they are just angry and that other communitys are shitholes? I seriously dont understand you dude, do you not expect to be talked down upon when you act like this?[/QUOTE] are you even here to debate or whatever we're doing or are you just going to tell me how much you disagree with me did you ever read that thing before you dissapeered?

[QUOTE=RoadOfGirl;39850776]again, so what? [editline]9th March 2013[/editline] you say this over and over and we get it, you think it's pathetic. are you going to move on or just keep repeating yourself.[/QUOTE] Wouldnt need to keep repeating myself if people stopped trying to argue the same shit ive said multilpe times in a row. Sorry I responded to people asking why I think that, thats sort of what you do when someone asks a question.

[QUOTE=Devodiere;39850787]well it's not a very good analysis regardless, but you underestimate what you can do with a small character limit. obviously you can't write a thesis, but criticisms such as "80% history and trivia, 20% actual discussion, be succinct and cut the fat" is certainly valid. allowing comments would've helped as long as she doesn't turn it into happy-smile-land with moderation.[/quote] it's not good analysis? fine. maybe i agree, maybe i don't. if you gave a bit of detail about how her analysis is flawed then we can have a legit conversation about it. that isn't happening in the youtube comments, though.

[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;39850812]Wouldnt need to keep repeating myself if people stopped trying to argue the same shit ive said multilpe times in a row. Sorry I responded to people asking why I think that, thats sort of what you do when someone asks a question.[/QUOTE] do you have anything to actually contribute or any criticism for the actual video rather than attacking the ways she does things because you can't actually find anything wrong with it 4 real educate urself

[QUOTE=Devodiere;39850787] no. this is the internet and i am an asshole, this is my natural habitat. i also post like this because i enjoy heated debates where i am the antagonist and it's the easiest way to draw attention. #donthate[/QUOTE] thats cool i mean usually people talk to each other to communicate things; but i guess you can also just post to self-aggrandize dont be insulted when people say no thanks

[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;39850812]Wouldnt need to keep repeating myself if people stopped trying to argue the same shit ive said multilpe times in a row. Sorry I responded to people asking why I think that, thats sort of what you do when someone asks a question.[/QUOTE] you're not even saying anything lol you are literally just repeating yourself verbatim. you're the one that keeps bringing the ratings thing up anyway. thanks for reminding us what you think, we get it. [editline]9th March 2013[/editline] and again, not talking about the video but what the person in the video has done outside of the video which has no connection to the content