Gays - Seriously, what's wrong about them? - General

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[QUOTE=BigOwl;32517339]I still don't understand what's wrong with choosing to be gay or being born. Why is either option bad?[/QUOTE] While you've excluded the idea of someone [I]becoming[/I] gay without it being a decision, I agree with your general sentiment. Why is the "born gay" debate even around? I don't think it matters if people are genetically determined to be gay, they just [I]are[/I] gay. The cause of it doesn't make homosexuality worse or better. It's an irrelevant point that people bring up.

... I would approve of it a lot less if it were a choice.

[QUOTE=Jebus;32517332]I'm not against gays, I have gay friends and I don't think of them or treat them any differently. However, I do believe that homosexuality is a mental condition, whether the result of being exposed to certain things during adolescence or simply the way that the brain can develop. Essentially it's the same respect as paedophilia or people who can 'fall in love' or feel sexually attracted to inanimate objects; it's not necessarily a problem, but it isn't 'right'.[/QUOTE] Superiority complex detected? They can't really be your friends if you think they have some sort of mental condition and put them in the same category as paedophiles or oddly enough people who fall in love or object sexuality. You're whole idea of what is right is really opinionated because guess what buddy, morality is pretty much defined by the viewer.

[QUOTE=Elecbullet;32517897]... I would approve of it a lot less if it were a choice.[/QUOTE] Why?

Actually Jebus I think you saying you have gay friends is pretty bollocks, or you're actually quite homophobic. Are they aware of your opinion on them? That you think they are mentally disturbed?

i chose to be gay because being picked on and having stones thrown at me until near death turns me on makes my nipples soooo hardd UNNFFF FUCK HOT

The only reason I could see someone speaking out against the gay lifestyle is because of it's counterproductive nature to society.

[QUOTE=sgman91;32517981]The only reason I could see someone speaking out against the gay lifestyle is because of it's counterproductive nature to society.[/QUOTE] Hardly. If everyone spawned like a hetero then we'd have even more of an overpopulation issue now

[QUOTE=sgman91;32517981]The only reason I could see someone speaking out against the gay lifestyle is because of it's counterproductive nature to society.[/QUOTE]That would only be a problem if there was >50% of the population of Earth being homosexual exclusively, and the numbers aren't even close to that (it's around 3% in the U.S. ALONE, and this isn't just exclusively homosexual, and even if the U.S. theoretically went to 50%, it doesn't necessarily mean the rest of the world would follow).

[QUOTE=Lebowski;32517995]Hardly. If everyone spawned like a hetero then we'd have even more of an overpopulation issue now[/QUOTE] How exactly does a hetero "spawn?" Let me put it another way: A homosexual can't provide anything to society that a heterosexual can't already provide. On the other side a heterosexual can provide what a homosexual can't provide.

[QUOTE=sgman91;32518023]How exactly does a hetero "spawn?"[/QUOTE] when he puts his penis in a lady and 9 months later she shits a kid outta her cooch.

[QUOTE=sgman91;32518023]How exactly does a hetero "spawn?" Let me put it another way: A homosexual can't provide anything to society that a heterosexual can't already provide. On the other side a heterosexual can provide what a homosexual can't provide.[/QUOTE] Homosexual people can still get pregnant.

I was like "gay people are annoying when they are extroverted about their sexuality, because it's dumb when straight people are extroverted about their sexuality." But I realized that it's quite hard for gay people to find people who are gay as well without advertising it, so I think it's cool. Gotta do what you gotta do.

[QUOTE=fenwick;32518071]Homosexual people can still get pregnant.[/QUOTE] Yes, but not in a homosexual relationship. They must either have sets of homosexual couples of different sexes for the sole purpose of procreation or use the sperm of heterosexuals.

You know what sexuality is? It's a secondary characteristic. A person isn't who they are just based on their sexual preference, nor should it be used in determining what kind of person they really are. It should just be "Oh, he's a great guy." and he just happens to be gay, but that really doesn't matter.

[QUOTE=sgman91;32518106]Yes, but not in a homosexual relationship. They must either have sets of homosexual couples of different sexes for the sole purpose of procreation or use the sperm of heterosexuals.[/QUOTE] Gay men don't produce semen? This is news to me.

[QUOTE=fenwick;32518127]Gay men don't produce semen? This is news to me.[/QUOTE] He's talking about women, but you know that.

[QUOTE=Vasili;32517925]Actually Jebus I think you saying you have gay friends is pretty bollocks, or you're actually quite homophobic. Are they aware of your opinion on them? That you think they are mentally disturbed?[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure he means that homosexuality could be caused by psychological factors instead of biological. I can see his point, there. Anyway, I'm of the mind that you can do whatever it is you want with other people, that's fine with me. Sexuality as a whole is a defining characteristic, but as an asexual person it's really, really not that important to me.

[QUOTE=Xyzzy;32518149]I'm pretty sure he means that homosexuality could be caused by psychological factors instead of biological. I can see his point, there. Anyway, I'm of the mind that you can do whatever it is you want with other people, that's fine with me. Sexuality as a whole is a defining characteristic, but as an asexual person it's really, really not that important to me.[/QUOTE] i.e he put homosexuality into the same category as pedophilia and object sexuality which are the result of psychological factor which is also another word for being mentally disturbed.

[QUOTE=Jebus;32517332]I'm not against gays, I have gay friends and I don't think of them or treat them any differently. However, I do believe that homosexuality is a mental condition, whether the result of being exposed to certain things during adolescence or simply the way that the brain can develop. Essentially it's the same respect as paedophilia or people who can 'fall in love' or feel sexually attracted to inanimate objects; it's not necessarily a problem, but it isn't 'right'.[/QUOTE] I'm not right in the head? I'm about as level headed and coherent as anyone else, and probably far more than a good majority as well! If it wasn't "right," then we probably wouldn't be seeing is as common in other species.

[QUOTE=fenwick;32518127]Gay men don't produce semen? This is news to me.[/QUOTE] Gonna make it pretty hard to make a gay guy stick it in a woman or gay woman get a dick in their vagina unless they do it through a sperm bank. It is a theory that homosexuality increased in chance with the more kids you have in a family the more likely that one of the more recent offspring may end up being gay or bisexual, this would hint that it may be a genetic way to stop over population.

He was saying that they'd still be reliant on heterosexuals, which is wrong, you can use a gay man's baby batter and still get a child out of it. I'm just wondering what the societal value of traditional baby-making and raising is. Even if [I]everyone[/I] were gay, people would still want babies, so I don't think it's a valid point. Maybe pregnancies would be less common, okay, but I don't think that it would cripple society.

[QUOTE=Vasili;32518167]i.e he put homosexuality into the same category as pedophilia and object sexuality which are the result of psychological factor which is also another word for being mentally disturbed.[/QUOTE] Chalk one up for the "debating while tired" school of thought for me. If he hadn't thrown those utterly foolish comparisons, it would have been valid (even though I believe it's biological, personally).

[QUOTE=Xyzzy;32518217]Chalk one up for the "debating while tired" school of thought for me. If he hadn't thrown those utterly foolish comparisons, it would have been valid (even though I believe it's biological, personally).[/QUOTE] I was thinking the exact same thing, actually.

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[QUOTE=fenwick;32518198]He was saying that they'd still be reliant on heterosexuals, which is wrong, you can use a gay man's baby batter and still get a child out of it. I'm just wondering what the societal value of traditional baby-making and raising is. Even if [I]everyone[/I] were gay, people would still want babies, so I don't think it's a valid point. Maybe pregnancies would be less common, okay, but I don't think that it would cripple society.[/QUOTE] I think he meant more that a society cannot work correctly if everyone was gay and that has a modesty of truth to it unless everyone came together for the greater good of things and forcefully made children to keep the human race alive. Humanity does rely on heterosexuals, most homosexual couples usually adopt and the whole process of actually finding a woman or man willing to go through the whole process can take a while, you cannot deny that the human race would be smaller otherwise. I really don't believe a gay society would actually work but then again I don't think there has been a study into homosexuals to see whether their biological code to reproduce is still effective and what lengths would they go to achieve this.

All the homosexual people in my area hate me, even though I'm nice to them. Why? Also, I hang around alot of girls. Am I stealing their women?

[QUOTE=Seiteki;32518185]I'm not right in the head? I'm about as level headed and coherent as anyone else, and probably far more than a good majority as well! If it wasn't "right," then we probably wouldn't be seeing is as common in other species.[/QUOTE] Did you know that only gay men have gay sex with underage boys? By [I]definition.[/I] I find all the arguments against homosexually absolutely abhorrent and immensely flawed. [editline]28th September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=BlackCrow;32518272]All the homosexual people in my area hate me, even though I'm nice to them. Why? Also, I hang around alot of girls. [B]Am I stealing their women?[/B][/QUOTE] Uh, probably because of comments like that.