[QUOTE=Behemoth_PT;32845021]
On the other hand If you like to watch child porn, you're not entirely a pedophile[/QUOTE]
I am quite sure the definition of pedophilia is attraction to children. So if you get hard when watching CP, yes you are a pedo. What you are not is a child rapist.
From where I see it, homosexuality is, like paraphiliae (of which it perhaps could be considered one), something that develops when very young. I highly doubt this is a genetic thing (perhaps a slight genetic pre-disposition, but that would be like saying one is genetically predisposed to maths).
I am fairly certain of this because I have first hand experience with sexual deviancies and I have no doubt in my mind that homosexuality is little different- just more widespread.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;32845222]I am quite sure the definition of pedophilia is attraction to children. So if you get hard when watching CP, yes you are a pedo. What you are not is a child rapist.[/QUOTE]
Fair enough.
[QUOTE=Behemoth_PT;32845021]All I'm saying is that children's sexual organs are not developed for sex yet and having it with an adult may cause severe damage and trauma to them. However if the child wants it, that's another topic that involves maturity and self consciousness of choice. All things that are debatable as hell and clearly offtopic. In my opinion even if a child was willing to have sex with me I would still find it unethical.
For example. Anal or vaginal sex in children can provoke infections and tearing of the internal tissues of both the rectum muscles and vagina.
On the other hand If you like to watch child porn, you're not entirely a pedophile and there's nothing wrong with you. It's not your fault if you get a hard on watching all the weird shit on the internet. However, one must have the consciousness to acknowledge that the videos of paedophilia you watch on the internet involve, in most cases, child traffic and abuse of minors, and that is something everyone must keep in mind. I'm not going to judge anyone for watching or faping to it.
There's the law and there's peoples consciousness, so everyone knows about himself.
As for the imbecile part, I'm just going to ignore that. All I did was exposing my opinion, you just do as you will with it.
[editline]18th October 2011[/editline]
why are we talking about this?[/QUOTE]
he's arguing with the way you phrased things, not what you said. Basically, someone can be a pedophile without acting on it, but you implied that all pedophiles rape children.
[QUOTE=JgcxCub;32846245]From where I see it, homosexuality is, like paraphiliae (of which it perhaps could be considered one), something that develops when very young. I highly doubt this is a genetic thing (perhaps a slight genetic pre-disposition, but that would be like saying one is genetically predisposed to maths).
I am fairly certain of this because I have first hand experience with sexual deviancies and I have no doubt in my mind that homosexuality is little different- just more widespread.[/QUOTE]
HomoSEXUALITY is not a philia, it's sexuality. Sure someone can turn gay if you teach them at very young age, but mostly it's genetic.
Even animals are sometimes gay, there's no way they could develop that trait.
[QUOTE=Jaspercats;32842105]Gay marriage should be illegal Because Soon everyones going to go Gay and walk around the streets holding another guys hand.
No one trys to set a good example for kids.[/QUOTE]
I really can't tell if you're trolling.
[QUOTE=The First 11'er;32853998]I really can't tell if you're trolling.[/QUOTE]
sounds like hes joking actually
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;32849396]someone can turn gay if you teach them at very young age[/QUOTE]
what
[QUOTE=limulus54;32848677]he's arguing with the way you phrased things, not what you said. Basically, someone can be a pedophile without acting on it, but you implied that all pedophiles rape children.[/QUOTE]
Actually, from his reply, I think he truly thinks all pedophiles rape children.
[editline]19th October 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=JgcxCub;32846245]From where I see it, homosexuality is, like paraphiliae (of which it perhaps could be considered one), something that develops when very young. I highly doubt this is a genetic thing (perhaps a slight genetic pre-disposition, but that would be like saying one is genetically predisposed to maths).
I am fairly certain of this because I have first hand experience with sexual deviancies and I have no doubt in my mind that homosexuality is little different- just more widespread.[/QUOTE]
It hasn't been a paraphilia since the early fucking 70's, when people started understanding that it wasn't a mental disorder or a disease.
[QUOTE=Crimor;32855601]
It hasn't been a paraphilia since the early fucking 70's, when people started understanding that it wasn't a mental disorder or a disease.[/QUOTE]
Never did I say that it was a disorder or disease, or that it was a paraphilia. I consider it a deviancy. From where I see it, to consider it abnormal would be like saying enjoying maths is abnormal.
[QUOTE=Crimor;32855601]Actually, from his reply, I think he truly thinks all pedophiles rape children.
[editline]19th October 2011[/editline]
It hasn't been a paraphilia since the early fucking 70's, when people started understanding that it wasn't a mental disorder or a disease.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Behemoth_PT;32846512][QUOTE=AceOfDivine;32845222]I am quite sure the definition of pedophilia is attraction to children. So if you get hard when watching CP, yes you are a pedo. What you are not is a child rapist.[/QUOTE]
Fair enough.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Bletotum;32854984]what[/QUOTE]
He probably means conditioning.
how is that any better
No one said it was good.
you misunderstand
I am criticizing you for saying that children can be taught to be gay.
[QUOTE=Crimor;32855601]Actually, from his reply, I think he truly thinks all pedophiles rape children.
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I don't.
One of my friends on Facebook just answered a poll called "Should a teacher be fired for the sheer fact that they're gay?"
I mean, who would even bother asking a question that stupid?
[QUOTE=RobL;32891054]One of my friends on Facebook just answered a poll called "Should a teacher be fired for the sheer fact that they're gay?"
I mean, who would even bother asking a question that stupid?[/QUOTE]
I'm going to guess that there's at least one 'Yes' vote.
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32894057]I'm going to guess that there's at least one 'Yes' vote.[/QUOTE]
13,324 actually
[QUOTE=RobL;32894545]13,324 actually[/QUOTE]
Well I guess that's that.
[QUOTE=RobL;32894545]13,324 actually[/QUOTE]
what did your friend answer with?
[QUOTE=Jaspercats;32842105]Gay marriage should be illegal Because Soon everyones going to go Gay and walk around the streets holding another guys hand.
No one trys to set a good example for kids.[/QUOTE]
You pose a very good argument. /sarcasm
reminds me of a stupid teen show we had here that had like perfect teens that experience life n stuff and their math teacher was gay and they made a whole epiosde wher one of the characters was like lol fag and the rest of em were like dude not cool this is HOMOPHOBIC!!!! and then the teacher heaerd him and cried
that show sucked
[QUOTE=Batmoutarde;32899286]reminds me of a stupid teen show we had here that had like perfect teens that experience life n stuff and their math teacher was gay and they made a whole epiosde wher one of the characters was like lol fag and the rest of em were like dude not cool this is HOMOPHOBIC!!!! and then the teacher heaerd him and cried
that show sucked[/QUOTE]
...what
[QUOTE=Batmoutarde;32899286]reminds me of a stupid teen show we had here that had like perfect teens that experience life n stuff and their math teacher was gay and they made a whole epiosde wher one of the characters was like lol fag and the rest of em were like dude not cool this is HOMOPHOBIC!!!! and then the teacher heaerd him and cried
that show sucked[/QUOTE]
How does this even contribute to the debate?
[QUOTE=Weemanply109;32912928]How does this even contribute to the debate?[/QUOTE]
It doesn't. I think he was trying to tell a story.
honestly, if anyone's gonna say ANYTHING bad about gays, lesbians, or bisexuals, i'm gonna f*****g kick them in the balls so hard, they'll rocket through time and space! and if they're a female, i'll kick their cunt so hard, it'll be their new hat
From a religious standpoint, being who you are can't separate you from a loving God.
From a "natural order" standpoint, homosexuality has been observed in LOADS of different types of creatures.
From an American standpoint, we're all human beings and who we want to be free to pursue happiness with is up to us.
Personally, I'm not gay, but not being accepting of gays is idiotic.
Also, just to add to the knowledge pool of the thread, people interpret it differently, but the actual stance of the Catholic Church is that homosexuals are loved by God just the same, and that it is wrong not to accept them, but the Church also protects the whole "sanctity of marriage" thing, so gays are called to live a life of celibacy. I don't agree with it, but it's a little better than what most people think their stance is.
I hate the terms 'pro' and 'anti' gay or gay marriage. It just sounds ridiculous, you don't have to be like "Yayyy!!! Homosexuals!" In order to be accepting of gays, just treat them as if you would any other human being, not because of their sexuality.
[QUOTE=DOG-GY;32800723]there is not a gay accent[/QUOTE]
Dude, there is.
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