Gays - Seriously, what's wrong about them? - General

[QUOTE=limulus54;34231295]Oh I know. I still don't think he's right.[/QUOTE] they do. Gays are discriminated against because they like people of a different gender then they are supposed to.

[QUOTE=limulus54;34231295]Oh I know. I still don't think he's right.[/QUOTE] but surely trans[I]genderism[/I] has to do with gender comparison and perception?

[QUOTE=T-Sonar.0;34227064]That's really silly. How can people not wrap their head around the concept that gays can have the same sexual tendencies straight men do, just with other men? But when a guy does it to a girl its acting like a normal human being?[/QUOTE] People are stupid, that's what makes them people.

[QUOTE=Crimor;34239059]People are stupid, that's what makes them people.[/QUOTE] i'm pretty sure our dna makes us people not everyone has to be stupid

How have we let this nation get to this state of mind? In a recent issue of The Crusader I saw the headline (above: Ignore Parents/Promote Homosexuality) talking about this very issue – and pointing out the society we now are in when it is popular for Christian parents to be ignored in favor of the promotion of homosexuality. I don’t understand people’s thinking in this country. “Equal rights for all” does not exist. Equal rights appear only to apply to the minorities, the antichristian atheists, the race mixers and gays. Do I support hate? No! Do I support The Knights Party? Absolutely! This nation is lost and on its way to hell. People need to wake up and fight for what is right. It’s too bad this has almost become a cliché`. However, it is still just as true. We must put out the effort. I currently am not a parent, but I deal with children on a daily basis and I know that we must teach children on the foundation that there are things that are sinful; things that are right and wrong. Some of you may remember Johnny Rebel. He was the man that put out white pride albums in the 60′s and 70′s. When asked if he was a racist, he said “No”. His way of thinking is that if he does not want to associate with certain people then he shouldn’t have to and he should not be considered a racist for it. He is right. The minorities are praised for being proud of their race, but we are condemned for it. Where is the equality in this? I am a white man who believes in white Christian values, and this does not make me a bad person. I treat everyone with the same respect that they treat me. They tell our children that it is wrong to speak of God in public, but it is good to flaunt homosexuality in public. What goes on in the bedroom should stay in the bedroom. If you are gay, that is not my problem until you try to force acceptance of that lifestyle on me. We do not advocate prying into one’s personal life within the privacy of the home. However, when homosexuals make their lifestyle public, then it becomes a community problem that should be dealt with by public authorities. The growing number of homosexuals is due to their practice of no longer staying in the closet. When they keep their lifestyle choices private, it is between them and God. God will choose when and if He will place conviction upon their heart. However, when they make their choices public, the Bible tells us that it then is no longer between the sinner and God. Homosexuality is contagious. Of course, I realize that statement may sound insane to some and homosexual activists will make fun of it. A person does not “catch” homosexuality as they would the common flu bug. But homosexuality is a mental depravity that has severe consequences for society and its social acceptance IS contagious. It is increasingly viewed by even children as a legitimate form of a romantic relationship that should receive God’s blessing. Homosexuality and miscegenation are two great sins that are undermining marriage and family. As a minister of God, I am duty bound to look after the spiritual health of our people. A Christian should not be selfish and only concerned about their own salvation, but should also care about the well-being of their brothers and sisters; and not only in the after life, but in the here and now. The Bible spends 80% of its time, in the instruction of having a Godly society so that the people may live in harmony with God and each other. This is what I believe in. I have to live my life to the best of my ability and this is what God will judge me by, though I may fall short. I hope that you too will live your life to the best of your ability, to study Gods word, to speak out against sin, and to work with others through The Knights in warning our brothers and sisters of the plague that threatens to destroy our nation. Remember friends, to whom much is given – much is required. [highlight](User was permabanned for this post ("Gimmick" - Craptasket))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=The Knights;34249824]How have we let this nation get to this state of mind? In a recent issue of The Crusader I saw the headline (above: Ignore Parents/Promote Homosexuality) talking about this very issue – and pointing out the society we now are in when it is popular for Christian parents to be ignored in favor of the promotion of homosexuality. I don’t understand people’s thinking in this country. “Equal rights for all” does not exist. Equal rights appear only to apply to the minorities, the antichristian atheists, the race mixers and gays. Do I support hate? No! Do I support The Knights Party? Absolutely! This nation is lost and on its way to hell. People need to wake up and fight for what is right. It’s too bad this has almost become a cliché`. However, it is still just as true. We must put out the effort. I currently am not a parent, but I deal with children on a daily basis and I know that we must teach children on the foundation that there are things that are sinful; things that are right and wrong. Some of you may remember Johnny Rebel. He was the man that put out white pride albums in the 60′s and 70′s. When asked if he was a racist, he said “No”. His way of thinking is that if he does not want to associate with certain people then he shouldn’t have to and he should not be considered a racist for it. He is right. The minorities are praised for being proud of their race, but we are condemned for it. Where is the equality in this? I am a white man who believes in white Christian values, and this does not make me a bad person. I treat everyone with the same respect that they treat me. They tell our children that it is wrong to speak of God in public, but it is good to flaunt homosexuality in public. What goes on in the bedroom should stay in the bedroom. If you are gay, that is not my problem until you try to force acceptance of that lifestyle on me. We do not advocate prying into one’s personal life within the privacy of the home. However, when homosexuals make their lifestyle public, then it becomes a community problem that should be dealt with by public authorities. The growing number of homosexuals is due to their practice of no longer staying in the closet. When they keep their lifestyle choices private, it is between them and God. God will choose when and if He will place conviction upon their heart. However, when they make their choices public, the Bible tells us that it then is no longer between the sinner and God. Homosexuality is contagious. Of course, I realize that statement may sound insane to some and homosexual activists will make fun of it. A person does not “catch” homosexuality as they would the common flu bug. But homosexuality is a mental depravity that has severe consequences for society and its social acceptance IS contagious. It is increasingly viewed by even children as a legitimate form of a romantic relationship that should receive God’s blessing. Homosexuality and miscegenation are two great sins that are undermining marriage and family. As a minister of God, I am duty bound to look after the spiritual health of our people. A Christian should not be selfish and only concerned about their own salvation, but should also care about the well-being of their brothers and sisters; and not only in the after life, but in the here and now. The Bible spends 80% of its time, in the instruction of having a Godly society so that the people may live in harmony with God and each other. This is what I believe in. I have to live my life to the best of my ability and this is what God will judge me by, though I may fall short. I hope that you too will live your life to the best of your ability, to study Gods word, to speak out against sin, and to work with others through The Knights in warning our brothers and sisters of the plague that threatens to destroy our nation. Remember friends, to whom much is given – much is required.[/QUOTE] Reads like it's from the 1800s. [editline]16th January 2012[/editline] How is homosexuality dangerous?

[QUOTE=The Knights;34249824]How have we let this nation get to this state of mind? In a recent issue of The Crusader I saw the headline (above: Ignore Parents/Promote Homosexuality) talking about this very issue – and pointing out the society we now are in when it is popular for Christian parents to be ignored in favor of the promotion of homosexuality. I don’t understand people’s thinking in this country. “Equal rights for all” does not exist. Equal rights appear only to apply to the minorities, the antichristian atheists, the race mixers and gays. Do I support hate? No! Do I support The Knights Party? Absolutely! This nation is lost and on its way to hell. People need to wake up and fight for what is right. It’s too bad this has almost become a cliché`. However, it is still just as true. We must put out the effort. I currently am not a parent, but I deal with children on a daily basis and I know that we must teach children on the foundation that there are things that are sinful; things that are right and wrong. Some of you may remember Johnny Rebel. He was the man that put out white pride albums in the 60′s and 70′s. When asked if he was a racist, he said “No”. His way of thinking is that if he does not want to associate with certain people then he shouldn’t have to and he should not be considered a racist for it. He is right. The minorities are praised for being proud of their race, but we are condemned for it. Where is the equality in this? I am a white man who believes in white Christian values, and this does not make me a bad person. I treat everyone with the same respect that they treat me. They tell our children that it is wrong to speak of God in public, but it is good to flaunt homosexuality in public. What goes on in the bedroom should stay in the bedroom. If you are gay, that is not my problem until you try to force acceptance of that lifestyle on me. We do not advocate prying into one’s personal life within the privacy of the home. However, when homosexuals make their lifestyle public, then it becomes a community problem that should be dealt with by public authorities. The growing number of homosexuals is due to their practice of no longer staying in the closet. When they keep their lifestyle choices private, it is between them and God. God will choose when and if He will place conviction upon their heart. However, when they make their choices public, the Bible tells us that it then is no longer between the sinner and God. Homosexuality is contagious. Of course, I realize that statement may sound insane to some and homosexual activists will make fun of it. A person does not “catch” homosexuality as they would the common flu bug. But homosexuality is a mental depravity that has severe consequences for society and its social acceptance IS contagious. It is increasingly viewed by even children as a legitimate form of a romantic relationship that should receive God’s blessing. Homosexuality and miscegenation are two great sins that are undermining marriage and family. As a minister of God, I am duty bound to look after the spiritual health of our people. A Christian should not be selfish and only concerned about their own salvation, but should also care about the well-being of their brothers and sisters; and not only in the after life, but in the here and now. The Bible spends 80% of its time, in the instruction of having a Godly society so that the people may live in harmony with God and each other. This is what I believe in. I have to live my life to the best of my ability and this is what God will judge me by, though I may fall short. I hope that you too will live your life to the best of your ability, to study Gods word, to speak out against sin, and to work with others through The Knights in warning our brothers and sisters of the plague that threatens to destroy our nation. Remember friends, to whom much is given – much is required.[/QUOTE] but church and state must be separated, by law. and what if homosexuals want heterosexuals to keep their sexuality in the bedroom? shall we ban all marriage?

The Knights is a gimmick account, ignore him.

[QUOTE=Disgruntled;34250023]The Knights is a gimmick account, ignore him.[/QUOTE] why? he puts time and thought into his posts, it just makes sense to respond. It would be different if he was posting "FAGS ER GAYZ & SHOOD DY!!!". then we would ignore him.

[QUOTE=The Kakistocrat;34250073]why? he puts time and thought into his posts, it just makes sense to respond. It would be different if he was posting "FAGS ER GAYZ & SHOOD DY!!!". then we would ignore him.[/QUOTE] A quick google search revealed that his entire post was lifted from the KKK's website. He is a gimmick and a troll.

[QUOTE=Pizza12456;34025154]How? I don't think you would want a gay staring at you changing.[/QUOTE] I would

[QUOTE=Disgruntled;34250133]A quick google search revealed that his entire post was lifted from the KKK's website. He is a gimmick and a troll.[/QUOTE] okay, nevermind then.

[QUOTE=The Knights;34249824] They tell our children that it is wrong to speak of God in public, but it is good to flaunt homosexuality in public. What goes on in the bedroom should stay in the bedroom. If you are gay, that is not my problem until you try to force acceptance of that lifestyle on me. We do not advocate prying into one’s personal life within the privacy of the home.[/QUOTE] This I can understand, the rest is just dumb

[QUOTE=Disgruntled;34250133]A quick google search revealed that his entire post was lifted from the KKK's website. He is a gimmick and a troll.[/QUOTE] Of course. I am entitled to spread our articles as I see fit. If you have an issue, I highly encourage asking questions. [editline]17th January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Megadick;34250212]This I can understand, the rest is just dumb[/QUOTE] That is your opinion, and as any good American I respect it.

[QUOTE=The Knights;34250438]Of course. I am entitled to spread our articles as I see fit. If you have an issue, I highly encourage asking questions.[/QUOTE] Right, like the one I've already asked you. How is homosexuality dangerous?

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;34249944]Reads like it's from the 1800s. [editline]16th January 2012[/editline] How is homosexuality dangerous?[/QUOTE] Homosexuality is the source of AIDs/HIV. In fact, 50% of AIDs in the U.S. come from the homosexual community. Remember to take to note that they are not half of our community, and that they make up nearly 2% of our community. Not only is it dangerous disease-wise, but it is dangerous religion-wise. We are a Christian organization.

no, we are not christian.

[QUOTE=The Knights;34250481]Homosexuality is the source of AIDs/HIV. In fact, 50% of AIDs in the U.S. come from the homosexual community. Remember to take to note that they are not half of our community, and that they make up nearly 2% of our community. Not only is it dangerous disease-wise, but it is dangerous religion-wise. We are a Christian organization.[/QUOTE] Well for one, I'd need a source on such precise statistics, and second we're not a Christian nation. Christians of various sects may be the majority, but there are plenty of Jews, Muslims, Atheists, Buddhists, and other non-Christians in this country as well.

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;34250677]Well for one, I'd need a source on such precise statistics, and second we're not a Christian nation. Christians of various sects may be the majority, but there are plenty of Jews, Muslims, Atheists, Buddhists, and other non-Christians in this country as well.[/QUOTE] Gladly! [url]http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/msm/index.htm[/url] As for America being a non-Christian nation that is your opinion and as any good American I respect it but I do not agree with it.

[QUOTE=The Knights;34250822]Gladly! [url]http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/msm/index.htm[/url] As for America being a non-Christian nation that is your opinion and as any good American I respect it but I do not agree with it.[/QUOTE] That's a matter of correlation, not causation. Do you have anything to suggest that they are affected by HIV and AIDS more often [I]because they are gay?[/I] [editline]16th January 2012[/editline] As for being a Christian nation we already went over this in the other thread. The Treaty of Tripoli (which according to the constitution is part of the SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND) states that the US is not founded upon the Christian religion. It was signed in 1796, and submitted to the Senate by a founding father, John Adams.

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;34250862]That's a matter of correlation, not causation. Do you have anything to suggest that they are affected by HIV and AIDS more often [I]because they are gay?[/I] [editline]16th January 2012[/editline] As for being a Christian nation we already went over this in the other thread. The Treaty of Tripoli (which according to the constitution is part of the SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND) states that the US is not founded upon the Christian religion. It was signed in 1796, and submitted to the Senate by a founding father, John Adams.[/QUOTE] I don't see how you couldn't see that.

Every man is entitled to believe he is the superior in the discussion of human morality. If human morality were easy to settle, there would be no debates. Any one can express their ideas of what they believe to be the correct idea of how humans should be, but frankly this is impossible. These discussions always end in idea bashing, and the more intelligent posts are struck down by the majority.

[QUOTE=The Knights;34250917]I don't see how you couldn't see that.[/QUOTE] Well you might as well explain it.

There has to be a reason that 2% of our population presents 50% of a disease. It makes no sense NOT to conclude that to be true.

[QUOTE=The Knights;34250822]Gladly! [url]http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/msm/index.htm[/url] As for America being a non-Christian nation that is your opinion and as any good American I respect it but I do not agree with it.[/QUOTE] we have laws stating that we are non-christian nation. If we were a christian nation, we would have an official religion. [editline]16th January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=The Knights;34251024]There has to be a reason that 2% of our population presents 50% of a disease. It makes no sense NOT to conclude that to be true.[/QUOTE] okay, and? unless gay people are running around, injecting people with aids, I see no reason why AIDS should be a good reason for banning homosexuality.

Oh hi there Mr. Knights, I'm a transgender lesbian, how do you do? The reason why is probably attributed to the fact that many people look down upon gays and possibly ban marriages. Therefore gay people statistically spend time sleeping around because they can't commit or something. I for one would love to get married someday like you all can.

[QUOTE=The Knights;34251024]There has to be a reason that 2% of our population presents 50% of a disease. It makes no sense NOT to conclude that to be true.[/QUOTE] There's a number of reasons, because it's a complicated issue. HIV infects by penetrating mucous membranes in the body and entering the blood stream. The anus technically has a less permeable membrane in several ways than the vagina, but is more likely to tear from unprotected sex, allowing for direct exposure to the bloodstream. Prophylactic design changed some time ago in terms of materials, lubricants and spermicides, and [URL="http://www.health.ny.gov/diseases/aids/facts/condoms/faqs.htm"]several modern materials cause irritation to those mucous membranes[/URL], encouraging people to have sex without them because of the discomfort (and increasing infection odds if they break). [URL="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/05/100525094900.htm"]Lubricants alone can also be proven to do membrane damage.[/URL] This affects homosexual men more than hetereosexual women, and heterosexual women more than heterosexual men, but this fact and others like it are not widely known (as you'll note most [URL="http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/fastfacts-msm-final508comp.pdf"]major[/URL] [URL="http://www.avert.org/young-gay-men.htm"]sources[/URL] have noted education in this area is drastically lacking in the western world and abroad). It's also been observed before that: -[URL="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1405662/pdf/amjph00211-0136.pdf"]Minorities are also more likely to contract all varieties of STDs, including HIV[/URL] -[URL="http://malawiresearch.org/system/files/Religion%20and%20HIV%20Risk%20Behaviors%20Among%20Married%20Men.pdf"]Religion in areas with high HIV risk may increase HIV risk via changing beliefs about one's vulnerability to the disease, and only reduces contraction rates by also reducing sexual contact in general[/URL] -[URL="http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/160/4/393.full"]Inability to meet a partner "normally" (i.e. in socially accepted settings) increases all STD risk[/URL] -[URL="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9395562"]Economic disadvantage increases all STD risk.[/URL] Lastly, it has been conclusivly proven globally that [URL="http://www.jahonline.org/article/S1054-139X%2806%2900601-X/abstract"]education reduces HIV contraction in any population[/URL], and that [URL="http://www.unesco.org/education/just_published_en/pdf/hiv_approach_english.pdf"]too little education causes a negative feedback loop[/URL] as people afraid of actions which have a risk for HIV refuse to attempt to improve related behaviors. What this indicates is that M2M homosexuals account for a disproportionate amount of AIDS victims due to social bias against that group, as they are [URL="https://w3.salemstate.edu/~cmauriello/Demilio_Sexual%20Politics.pdf"]a oppressed minority[/URL] which currently cannot have partners in the same ways that heterosexual couples can (e.g. the marriage debacle) and is subject to primarily ineffective "solutions" of religious nature (e.g. conversion therapy, abstinence-only sexual education). The initial boom follows on the "economic disadvantage" point, as it's widely known the impact poor and poor drug users had on the initial AIDS epidemic of the 60s and 70s.

[QUOTE=The Knights;34250481]Homosexuality is the source of AIDs/HIV. In fact, 50% of AIDs in the U.S. come from the homosexual community. Remember to take to note that they are not half of our community, and that they make up nearly 2% of our community. Not only is it dangerous disease-wise, but it is dangerous religion-wise. We are a Christian organization.[/QUOTE] Banning homosexual peoples/behaviors for being more susceptible to contracting HIV is like banning obese people/behaviors for being more susceptible to diabetes.

Why the fuck are you guys trying to argue with a troll jesus christ

[QUOTE=Jasun;34255040]Why the fuck are you guys trying to argue with a troll jesus christ[/QUOTE] Thank. You.