Gays - Seriously, what's wrong about them? - General

[QUOTE=devotchkade;32519795]Exactly. That's precisely why, for example, Black History Month is celebrated. It's because every fucking day is White History Month in the US. Thank you. [editline]28th September 2011[/editline] Whilst I agree that grabbing someone's ass is, arguably, sexual assault (dependent upon the circumstances), you don't necessarily have to hit someone hard to kill them, especially if you hit them in the temple. But - how much of this is about one's right to personal space and not be groped, and how much of it is about homophobia? For example, would you be fine with a woman grabbing your ass, even if you found her unattractive sexually? Would you be fine with other men groping women in front of you; would you consider that assault? Or is the only issue here, in your opinion, that they're the same sex?[/QUOTE] No my issue is that someone grabbed my arse and no I would not be fine with other men groping women who they did not know, its not the same sex thing cause I've had gay friends grab my arse as a joke, I also would not be fine with a woman grabbing my arse. And yea I know not to hit people in the temple I used to do some competitive fighting so Im pretty confident I would have enough control not to accidently kill someone with one punch.

[QUOTE=Stormcharger;32519902]No my issue is that someone grabbed my arse and no I would not be fine with other men groping women who they did not know, its not the same sex thing cause I've had gay friends grab my arse as a joke, I also would not be fine with a woman grabbing my arse. And yea I know not to hit people in the temple I used to do some competitive fighting so Im pretty confident I would have enough control not to accidently kill someone with one punch.[/QUOTE] Really? Would you? Maybe you wouldn't be okay with anyone you don't know touching your ass, and that's perfectly fine. I have to admit - as a woman - I would feel perfectly within my rights to punch someone in the face if they touched my body in any way I deemed to be unacceptable. Having said that, most straight men who are against being touched like that, I believe, would be fine with groping women and having their ass touched by women they don't know. And that's homophobic. Anyhow, you might know how to punch people so they don't die, but a lot of young men do not. [editline]28th September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Elecbullet;32518320]And what if it [I]is[/I] the result of psychological factors? We can't just throw out the possibility on that basis. Offended? Real fucking tough.[/QUOTE] It wasn't, as far as I'm aware, the psychological thing he was offended at. He was, rightfully, offended that his sexuality was compared to paedophilia, which has historically been used as a reason to oppress gay people. It also ignores that there is a massive difference between two of-age males having consensual sex, and an adult man raping a child - that is, consent.

[QUOTE=devotchkade;32519952] Anyhow, you might know how to punch people so they don't die, but a lot of young men do not. [/QUOTE] Most people can't kill others with a punch anyway, and if they do, it's because they landed in an awkward position. Anyway most mostly heterosexual men are fine with other men grabbing each other on the ass, unless they're homosexual. Go figure.

[QUOTE=Contag;32519985]Most people can't kill others with a punch anyway, and if they do, it's because they landed in an awkward position. [/QUOTE] What? My point is that it is possible, albeit unlikely.

[QUOTE=devotchkade;32519952]Really? Would you? Maybe you wouldn't be okay with anyone you don't know touching your ass, and that's perfectly fine. I have to admit - as a woman - I would feel perfectly within my rights to punch someone in the face if they touched my body in any way I deemed to be unacceptable. Having said that, most straight men who are against being touched like that, I believe, would be fine with groping women and having their ass touched by women they don't know. And that's homophobic. Anyhow, you might know how to punch people so they don't die, but a lot of young men do not. [editline]28th September 2011[/editline] It wasn't, as far as I'm aware, the psychological thing he was offended at. He was, rightfully, offended that his sexuality was compared to paedophilia, which has historically been used as a reason to oppress gay people. It also ignores that there is a massive difference between two of-age males having consensual sex, and an adult man raping a child - that is, consent.[/QUOTE] I've had chicks grab my arse before and its a fucking put off man and Immediately think how unfair it is how I cant slap them

[QUOTE=Stormcharger;32520017]I've had chicks grab my arse before and its a fucking put off man and Immediately think how unfair it is how I cant slap them[/QUOTE] [img]http://www.facepunch.com/avatar/305403.png?garryis=awesome[/img] I'm not sure that is an acceptable response, but eh.

I got slapped on the arse by some random guy the other day. (I didn't know the guy, and he wasn't with anyone so it wasn't just a joke). That is what is wrong with some gays.

[QUOTE=Contag;32520031][img]http://www.facepunch.com/avatar/305403.png?garryis=awesome[/img] I'm not sure that is an acceptable response, but eh.[/QUOTE] The response you are looking for is [img]http://i.imgur.com/iZk5L.png[/img]

[QUOTE=Stormcharger;32520017]I've had chicks grab my arse before and its a fucking put off man and Immediately think how unfair it is how I cant slap them[/QUOTE] Yeah, it's a bit of a complex subject. I can concede that I would find a man punching a woman abhorrent due to the general strength differential, but then again stronger guys punch physically weaker ones all the time, and there's much less of a social stigma around that. I think you might be in the minority as far as this goes. Suffice it to say it would depend on the context.

[QUOTE=devotchkade;32520053]Yeah, it's a bit of a complex subject. I can concede that I would find a man punching a woman abhorrent due to the general strength differential, but then again stronger guys punch physically weaker ones all the time, and there's much less of a social stigma around that. I think you might be in the minority as far as this goes. Suffice it to say it would depend on the context.[/QUOTE] Definelty would depend on context as I said before I would definetly not get angry at all if I was at a gay bar or something like that

[QUOTE=Man Without Hat;32520042]I got slapped on the arse by some random guy the other day. (I didn't know the guy, and he wasn't with anyone so it wasn't just a joke). That is what is wrong with some gays.[/QUOTE] I don't know that it actually has much to do with their sexuality, really. Just because a behaviour is exhibited by some members of some minority group doesn't at all mean that it's reason to oppress the group at large, or categorize them as [something unpleasant]. Also, I like your avatar. That video makes me lol. [editline]28th September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Stormcharger;32520060]Definelty would depend on context as I said before I would definetly not get angry at all if I was at a gay bar or something like that[/QUOTE] Yeah, I hear you. I think in this case I'd have to say that the issue is with people who don't respect other's bodily boundaries (make no mistake, that's a huge issue to me), than, say, gay people in general.

[QUOTE=BlackCrow;32518272]All the homosexual people in my area hate me, even though I'm nice to them. Why? Also, I hang around alot of girls. Am I stealing their women?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=BlackCrow;32518370]I meant, Am I stealing their friends or something?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=BlackCrow;32518519]Begone! Homosexual spawn of satan![/QUOTE] Great job putting your education to work in this thread. Really pays for itself Stop. [QUOTE=ragin cajun;32519378]Closet gays are real bros in my opinion. All though I am bi but I hate seeing "Gay Pride" parades and such. You don't see straight pride parades. Don't hate them for being gay I just hate when they use it as an excuse for every damn thing.[/QUOTE] I think most pride is crap to be honest [QUOTE=Jebus;32517332]I'm not against gays, I have gay friends and I don't think of them or treat them any differently. However, I do believe that homosexuality is a mental condition, whether the result of being exposed to certain things during adolescence or simply the way that the brain can develop. Essentially it's the same respect as paedophilia or people who can 'fall in love' or feel sexually attracted to inanimate objects; it's not necessarily a problem, but it isn't 'right'.[/QUOTE] your not against gays but its a mental condition what the fuck am I reading

I do not like penis in man butt

[QUOTE=Zeke129;32519556]Mind explaining how a potentially lethal action (as punching someone in the face absolutely can be) is deserved in that case?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Zeke129;32519227]If a woman you didn't find attractive grabbed your ass would you punch her in the face?[/QUOTE] Hahaha oh wow Zeke. The irony of the second post is that you're playing using "can't hit a girl" which is a very sexist philosophy but in general you're blowing the response out of proportion and minimizing the inappropriate act.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;32519227]If a woman you didn't find attractive grabbed your ass would you punch her in the face?[/QUOTE] Men punching men is much more commonly accepted than men punching women. If she was a complete minger it would probably cross your mind, but you wouldn't (Seen as she's still somewhat a girl)

The only gays I have a problem with are the ones that keep sticking it my face that they're gay, not unlike furries or bronies.

I was recently checking the UDHR, and wondered. Why aren't there any human rights regarding gays? Surely there should be a clause mandating that gays exist and should be entitled to all ceremonies that straight couples are allowed e.g. marriage.

[QUOTE=Eric95;32520475]I do not like penis in man butt[/QUOTE] Why think of it then?

I think gay guys are cool. My friends brother is gay, and he is the kindest dude you will ever meet. The other gays I know are more or less like normal people(whats normal anyhow?), only that they REALLY like the Eurovision Song Contest for some reason. I haven't got a clue why.. The thing is that people think that they will be "converted" or "turned gay" by them doing something(or just being in the same room as them). If you are gay, you are gay and you can't do nothing about it. If you're straight, then you have nothing to fear! If you see them kiss in the street, you should feel the same way as a man and a woman kissing.

Being gay is a mental disorder no matter how you look at it. But yes, they should be treated equally.

Their absolutely fine by me. More girls for everyone else... Except if they are lesbians...

[QUOTE=SomeRandomGuy16;32521399]Being gay is a mental disorder no matter how you look at it. But yes, they should be treated equally.[/QUOTE] no it's not. do you even know what a mental disorder is? do you know how a "mental disorder" is defined?

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;32521550]no it's not. do you even know what a mental disorder is? do you know how a "mental disorder" is defined?[/QUOTE] What is homosexuality then? [editline]28th September 2011[/editline] [quote](psychiatry) a psychological disorder of thought or emotion; a more neutral term than mental illness.[/quote] [editline]28th September 2011[/editline] Sounds fine to me.

[QUOTE=SomeRandomGuy16;32521573]What is homosexuality then?[/quote] a completely normal deviation from the average. [QUOTE=SomeRandomGuy16;32521573]Sounds fine to me.[/QUOTE] dude don't use the dictionary to argue. and that still leaves the term "disorder" undefined Homosexuality was removed from the list of mental disorders in the American Psychiatric Associations DSM in 1974 because it does not necessarily inhibit a person from leading a happy, contended life or necessarily lead to any harm to the homosexual person or anyone else. so you're wrong about it being a mental disorder. you can't just say "i think something's a mental disorder" and expect that to be respected because "mental disorder" is a somewhat objective term, with (somewhat) objective criteria which can be used to define it.

[QUOTE=SomeRandomGuy16;32521573]What is homosexuality then?[/QUOTE] Sexual preference, which is part of your personality and is not related to any sort of mental disorder, proven by professionals and experts. That's what it is.

[QUOTE=SomeRandomGuy16;32521399]Being gay is a mental disorder no matter how you look at it. But yes, they should be treated equally.[/QUOTE] No it is not, it's a lifestyle choice. Although in somes cases it may not be.

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;32521723]a completely normal deviation from the average. dude don't use the dictionary to argue. and that still leaves the term "disorder" undefined Homosexuality was removed from the list of mental disorders in the American Psychiatric Associations DSM in 1974 because it does not necessarily inhibit a person from leading a happy, contended life or necessarily lead to any harm to the homosexual person or anyone else. so you're wrong about it being a mental disorder. you can't just say "i think something's a mental disorder" and expect that to be respected because "mental disorder" is a somewhat objective term, with (somewhat) objective criteria which can be used to define it.[/QUOTE] One could argue that homosexual harms society by eroding the nuclear family unit, and that homosexual acts are harmful to the individual in the same way that drug taking is. psychology is a shit field of massive bias and it's bad to base arguments on it

I just don't like the ones that do things like wear shirts that only cover half their midsection complemented by a pair of daisy dukes.

[QUOTE=Contag;32521814]One could argue that homosexual harms society by eroding the nuclear family unit, and that homosexual acts are harmful to the individual in the same way that drug taking is.[/QUOTE] no you couldn't because those are garbage arguments. [QUOTE=Contag;32521814] psychology is a shit field of massive bias and it's bad to base arguments on it[/QUOTE] ok i am going to beat the hell out of you in this thread when i get home.

God said it's bad and that they should be killed....And then the myth that it's a choice although,even if it would be there still would be no problem with it