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If there's a lobby group to get Omar Khadr acquitted, let's fucking join it.

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Okay, I concede defeat to BrickInHead's logic. He's got the legal hook just right, and I can't argue against that. Still, maybe I'm more angry with the way the US has been designating Iraqi and Afghan detainees as non-combatants and justifying the use of beatings to get information. That and branding any enemy combatant a terrorist. What the fuck does the word terrorist mean? You're in their country killing their people, and they're terrorists for fighting back?

look at his picture on Wikipedia. [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ee/Alleged_Khadr_Waving.png[/img] He is obviously an enemy of the US Army and he should not be released. He KILLED a soldier with a grenade.

Killing is wrong. :frown:

[QUOTE=archangel125;24218892]That and branding any enemy combatant a terrorist. What the fuck does the word terrorist mean? You're in their country killing their people, and they're terrorists for fighting back?[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure the British would have been calling the American colonists terrorists for using guerilla tactics in the War of Independence. It's a subjective term in my opinion.

It's unfortunate he was raised so poorly but it's no excuse for murder.

[QUOTE=Shoe Phone;24219123]It's unfortunate he was raised so poorly but it's no excuse for murder.[/QUOTE] well....okay i guess not lol

Are you fucking stupid? It's an opinion if you think it should be treated that way legally, but no matter the location, killing a person is technically murder.

If he did it deliberatly...

why is it okay for soldiers to kill but not okay for that kid to fight back this is what op should have asked btw

No, just No

[QUOTE=Vince323;24219622]why is it okay for soldiers to kill but not okay for that kid to fight back[/QUOTE] He could always surrender himself to the US.

[QUOTE=Vince323;24219622]why is it okay for soldiers to kill but not okay for that kid to fight back[/QUOTE] Because he's Canadian.

I agree with the fact that you shouldn't attack an ally of your country, its not defence, it's murder. But I bet most of the people from the US don't know how many innocent people their soldiers have killed in the past.

so i can go shoot up a large group of canadian soldiers in the middle east, then you're saying i can just come over to canada and high five the prime minister, because he can't do jack shit? do you honestly hear yourself talk? you're worse than Gmod_fan77

[QUOTE]=archangel125;24217381l. Omar Khadr is a political prisoner being charged with a crime he didn't commit.[/QUOTE] Maybe he will escape to the Los Angles underground and become a soldier of fortune. [URL="http://www.facepunch.com/#"]View YouTUBE video[/URL] [URL]http://youtube.com/watch?v=wyz_2DEah4o[/URL]

[QUOTE=IForgotPassword;24219831]I agree with the fact that you shouldn't attack an ally of your country, its not defence, it's murder. But I bet most of the people from the US don't know how many innocent people their soldiers have killed in the past.[/QUOTE] There's a difference, legally, between collateral damage and murder. Exact numbers are usually unknown, but they know it happens (Unless they're teabaggers).

The big problem for me is that he is the youngest person at Guantanamo. In his defense, he was a child soldier when he killed that soldier. Why can't they release him back to his own country for a trial and processing? We're all ally's here right? Why can't we have him back?

[QUOTE=OogalaBoogal;24220018]The big problem for me is that he is the youngest person at Guantanamo. In his defense, he was a child soldier when he killed that soldier. Why can't they release him back to his own country for a trial and processing? We're all ally's here right? Why can't we have him back?[/QUOTE] Because Canada wanted him to stay at Guantanamo.

The U.S are only in Afghanistan fighting against the taliban. The Afghanistan military support the U.S' war with the taliban The soldier wouldn't have shot the kid, however, the kid killed him.

[QUOTE=OogalaBoogal;24220018]The big problem for me is that he is the youngest person at Guantanamo. In his defense, he was a child soldier when he killed that soldier. Why can't they release him back to his own country for a trial and processing? We're all ally's here right? Why can't we have him back?[/QUOTE] If you're saying that he should be held and tried in Canada, then I agree with you.

How did he get caught? I'm not trying to sound racist, but in the middle east, people dress and look very similar. If he threw the grenade and ran like a bitch he probably would have been lost easily. Must be a shitty insurgent.

[QUOTE=BakedCheese;24220121]Because Canada wanted him to stay at Guantanamo.[/QUOTE] LOL NO. The Federal Court asked for him back. [QUOTE=Wikipedia]In April 2009, the Federal Court of Canada ruled once again that Khadr's rights under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms had been violated. It concluded that Canada had a "duty to protect" Khadr and ordered the Canadian government to request that the U.S. return him to Canada as soon as possible[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chrith;24220193]The U.S are only in Afghanistan fighting against the taliban. The Afghanistan military support the U.S' war with the taliban The soldier wouldn't have shot the kid, however, the kid killed him.[/QUOTE] I disagree, if the soldier had time to react to a kid preparing to throw a grenade, he probably would have shot him. Sagan knows I would

[QUOTE=thirty9th;24220221]If you're saying that he should be held and tried in Canada, then I agree with you.[/QUOTE] Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Analogy : Other parents shouldn't punish other people's kids.

[QUOTE=DaCommie1;24219992]There's a difference, legally, between collateral damage and murder. Exact numbers are usually unknown, but they know it happens (Unless they're teabaggers).[/QUOTE] I'm so not sure the thousands of tons of agent orange that was sprayed over vietnam was collateral damage.

[QUOTE=strayebyrd;24220259]I disagree, if the soldier had time to react to a kid preparing to throw a grenade, he probably would have shot him. Sagan knows I would[/QUOTE] You can't throw all of those what-ifs around. The best evidence anyone has to go on is the soldier's and the boy's testimonies. Who's to say he didn't have the grenade already primed and stepped out from behind a wall? Sorry, but my first instinct when I see a young kid isn't to shoot him in the head.

Well guantanamo is generally accepted as a horrific breach of human rights anyway, it's not like this changes anything [editline]11:25PM[/editline] [QUOTE=thirty9th;24220320]You can't throw all of those what-ifs around. The best evidence anyone has to go on is the soldier's and the boy's testimonies. Who's to say he didn't have the grenade already primed and stepped out from behind a wall? Sorry, but my first instinct when I see a young kid isn't to shoot him in the head.[/QUOTE] I understand, but I guess survival insticts can take over and you shoot before thinking. Obviously we'll never know. I'm just saying if it's him or me, I'd be selfish and choose me

If he wasn't a Canadian citizen then he should have been a POW.

[QUOTE=OogalaBoogal;24220245]LOL NO. We asked for him back.[/QUOTE] Look in the paragraph above on wikipedia. [QUOTE=Wikipedia] In 2009, it was revealed that the Canadian government had spent over $1.3 million to ensure Khadr remained in Guantanamo.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BakedCheese;24220478]Look in the paragraph above on wikipedia.[/QUOTE] Oh that's gotta sting Oog

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