[QUOTE=Guriosity;51363602]which means bigotry is a behavioral trait that transcends ideology or what not. A viscous leftist idiot is the same as a viscous rightist idiot.[/QUOTE]
That's what the man said that is really spot on. The left sees thenselves as "the right side of history" and the right as misguided, rather than simply a different view. Although obviously the right has a similar issue. To be brutally honest though, in this particular issue the left was the bigger sinner over the last ~10 years
I'm by means no supporter Trump. I was a huge Bernie Sanders supporter and he definitely would have mopped the floor with Hilary if that cunt didn't rig the primaries. However, that being said, the minute Trump won I started looking into his policies. Granted, a lot of them are stupid and most likely won't pass through the Senate, but the ones that are important sound really, [I]really[/i] good. The problem is this SJW mentality has not only forced people to be offended and not engage but it has also forced people to not actively LEARN anything aside from what is shoveled out by the media.
Im not saying there's anything wrong from listening to the news, far from it. And I'm not saying there's anything wrong with a news outlet showing some sort of bias towards a Presidential candidate, but for fucks sake just don't listen to one outlet and take it all at face value. Dig deeper, verify sources, engage in conversation with members of the opposing opinion without throwing around insults and made up terminology like "mansplaining" and what not to invalidate a person's opinion. If there's one thing I hope Trump's presidency brings is the dismantling of this stupid fucking culture young Americans have forged. This special snowflake, safe space SJW bullshit that serves no purpose other than pussifying people.
Yeah, pussifying. It's not about making everyone feel safe. It's about turning everyone into a flappy, saggy walking vagina. And I'm so sick of it.
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;51362647]If your solution to being called mean names and "getting censored" (hint: you're not) is to elect a fascist bigot, you're a moron. You let feelings get in the way of policies. Good job.
[editline]13th November 2016[/editline]
At that stage your vote literally means "My feelings matter more than the livelihood and rights of the minorities I'm endangering"[/QUOTE]
Well fuck right off if the only reason those minorities can present to that voter base that they deserve their rights is to call them names and censor their opinion then they do not deserve their vote.
I don't care if it's the right thing to do, you need to show them WHY it's the right thing to do, not just say it's idiotic otherwise.
[editline]13th November 2016[/editline]
Thinking one side is bigoted gives you no right to be bigoted towards the other
As someone who supported trump, he's right.
A week ago I made a comment here that where I live, it felt like I had to fucking hide my opinion or face severe scrutiny, I didn't think Trump even had a chance at it. If you support Trump, bam "Sexist,racist, how could you?".
But seeing just how many people showed up to my precinct for voting I started to realize I wasn't the only person who pretty much said absolutely nothing about supporting Trump.
I am really hoping that this is the end of the SJW era, because that shit doesn't work and it is tired. If Trump's election can do at least that, then he's already done something beneficial for this country.
[QUOTE=elowin;51357328]Like was said earlier, /r/the_donald is literally a safe space. Straight up there's a rule against having any dissenting opinions, if you try to have a conversation you're banned.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=The_Donald #SafeSpace]
No Spamming.
No Trolling or [B]Concern Trolling[/B]*.
No Racism/Anti-Semitism.
No Releasing Personal Information or Doxxing.
No Vote Manipulation, Brigading, or Asking for Votes.
[B]No Dissenters or SJWs. AfterBerners MUST Assimilate.[/B]**
No Posts About Being Banned from Other Subreddits.
No Posts About Subreddit Suggestions or Concerns (Use Modmail Instead).
No Posts About Trump Assassination Threats (Send screenshots + Archive.is link to the FBI).
If you feel you were banned by mistake, you are free to appeal by sending us a polite message via Modmail.
[QUOTE=Concern Trolling]*What is concern trolling, you might ask? We are talking about rule 2, and by extension rule 8. Here are some examples...
"Mods here should really stop stickying polls and concentrate on leaks!"
"We need to stop upvoting memes and instead focus on [insert item]!"
[B]"Why are we not reaching out to Berniebros? Seriously, we should make threads about it right now!"[/B]
"This rally thread's audio is shit! Our sub has been compromised by shills!"
[B]"I'm a Trump supporter, but ..."[/B]
[B]"We will lose the election, if ... [something that "needs" to change on /r/The_Donald]"[/B]
[B]99.9% of things that start with "You guys", "Hear me out" or "Don't downvote, but..."[/B]
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[QUOTE=AfterBerners]Step 2: Bernie is not and will never be our martyr. You must disavow.
Some of us fucking hate his stances. Others think he's a sweet old man, probably a fine grandfather, but just too much of a pussy to be president. That group tends to blame his safe rhetoric (ie: only attacking republicans) and refusal to use ammo that's handed to him on a silver platter ("nobody cares about your damn emails!"). You may be silent, but we're not gonna put up with "He's a such a great man, too bad he failed!" He's not our martyr. He's a cuck.
We also do NOT need you to correct us on Bernie's stances. Nobody fucking cares about the difference between communism and democratic socialism, if there even is one--which there isn't. Nobody gives a shit about whether he advocates peace or violence, or if he was inconsequentially a part of the civil rights movement, or any of that. Most of us don't even think he's anti-establishment. We just see him as some pandering cuckold; you can either be silent or agree. Oh, and NOBODY fucking wants to hear about how similar they are.[/QUOTE]
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Fucking lol. I knew it a goofy place, but it's basically the Stormfront alternative to Tumblr. Or "Trumplr" if you will (I have that name trademarked now)?
[QUOTE=A_Pigeon;51363944]Well fuck right off if the only reason those minorities can present to that voter base that they deserve their rights is to call them names and censor their opinion then they do not deserve their vote.
I don't care if it's the right thing to do, you need to show them WHY it's the right thing to do, not just say it's idiotic otherwise.
[editline]13th November 2016[/editline]
Thinking one side is bigoted gives you no right to be bigoted towards the other[/QUOTE]
"[I]I'm [/I]not a bigot but I'm gonna [I]vote for one[/I] because someone called me [I]mean names![/I] That'll show those damn SJW's that I don't support racist, misogynistic, homophobic ideologies!"
Sound logic
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;51364383]"[I]I'm [/I]not a bigot but I'm gonna [I]vote for one[/I] because someone called me [I]mean names![/I] That'll show those damn SJW's that I don't support racist, misogynistic, homophobic ideologies!"
Sound logic[/QUOTE]
How many times are you guys going to pull the same strawman over and over before actually reading what the argument is?
How ironic that you accuse Trump supporters of not listening and being stubborn yet do the exact same thing.
[QUOTE=Oizen;51364043]As someone who supported trump, he's right.
A week ago I made a comment here that where I live, it felt like I had to fucking hide my opinion or face severe scrutiny, I didn't think Trump even had a chance at it. If you support Trump, bam "Sexist,racist, how could you?".
But seeing just how many people showed up to my precinct for voting I started to realize I wasn't the only person who pretty much said absolutely nothing about supporting Trump.
I am really hoping that this is the end of the SJW era, because that shit doesn't work and it is tired. If Trump's election can do at least that, then he's already done something beneficial for this country.[/QUOTE]
except i was there when people explained why trump is terrible for people, but you just shitposted and talked about memes instead. Especially when you said you want obamacare to be revoked just because it didn't benefit [B]you[/B]. Theres plenty of people who benefit from it, including a friend who i know whos mom has brain cancer and was denied coverage till obamacare went into effect, allowing her to get treatment.
But since that didn't benefit you at all, you want it destroyed entirely. That is what is wrong with america, everything is me, me, me, me, and me. No one gives a fuck about their fellow man unless they get some kind of kick back, and corporations are feasting off of greed to push their own agenda. Meanwhile said people are completely blind to it or how much they do benefit from the government.
How do i know this? my parents were both fired the same day from a house builder during the collapse. They asked for government support but were apparently making too much on unemployment to get help. This is dumb but now my parents rant and rave about how people don't deserve government help because they pulled themselves up. Infact recently my parents voted against a new state bill that would add 1% sales tax for purely educational purposes just because they don't have kids in school, why should they pay? That is what is wrong with america, people are too busy worrying about themselves than other civilians.
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;51364140]What is the SJW "era" ? How much did it really hurt the USA ?[/QUOTE]
The entire era of "If you disagree with me you're Racist/Sexist/Mysogonistic" and if you try to explain you're not then you're oppressing me and a bigot.
Its been pretty rampant. Surprised you haven't noticed it.
[QUOTE=Oizen;51364481]The entire era of "If you disagree with me you're Racist/Sexist/Mysogonistic" and if you try to explain you're not then you're oppressing me and a bigot.
Its been pretty rampant. Surprised you haven't noticed it.[/QUOTE]
*on the internet
It's not just on the internet though.
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;51364383]"[I]I'm [/I]not a bigot but I'm gonna [I]vote for one[/I] because someone called me [I]mean names![/I] That'll show those damn SJW's that I don't support racist, misogynistic, homophobic ideologies!"
Sound logic[/QUOTE]
You REALLY don't get it
[QUOTE=A_Pigeon;51364684]You REALLY don't get it[/QUOTE]
Oh I get it perfectly fine. It's pretty basic. But it's also really, really moronic. More so than voting for Trump AND supporting his ideas.
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;51364822]Oh I get it perfectly fine.[/QUOTE]
Behold, the proof that you don't:
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;51364822]But it's also really, really moronic. More so than voting for Trump AND supporting his ideas.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Oizen;51364481]The entire era of "If you disagree with me you're Racist/Sexist/Mysogonistic" and if you try to explain you're not then you're oppressing me and a bigot.
Its been pretty rampant. Surprised you haven't noticed it.[/QUOTE]
I explained things, and I listened to people. And I admittedly got mad at times. But I still talked, and I still listened.
You repeated memes on the sidelines and got mad about everything anyone said if it wasn't aligned with you
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[QUOTE=Coyoteze;51364383]"[I]I'm [/I]not a bigot but I'm gonna [I]vote for one[/I] because someone called me [I]mean names![/I] That'll show those damn SJW's that I don't support racist, misogynistic, homophobic ideologies!"
Sound logic[/QUOTE]
I admittedly don't understand the logic exactly either, but you're being obtuse here.
Trump voters didn't like being called bigots when they themselves didn't hold those views, and there were plenty that didn't hold those views. they don't even condone them, but by their actions in a manner, have publicly condoned them without ever expressly doing so
it's not really right for anyone to just assume they're unrelenting bigots when there isn't really evidence of that.
[QUOTE=SirJon;51363619]That's what the man said that is really spot on. The left sees thenselves as "the right side of history" and the right as misguided, rather than simply a different view. Although obviously the right has a similar issue. To be brutally honest though, in this particular issue the left was the bigger sinner over the last ~10 years[/QUOTE]
If you agree, wouldn't it be better to figure out how to objectively describe and classify these assholes?
Wouldn't these awful people the real bigots?
[QUOTE=Guriosity;51365200]If you agree, wouldn't it be better to figure out how to objectively describe and classify these assholes?
Wouldn't these awful people the real bigots?[/QUOTE]
You mean a way to conveniently sort which left wingers are on "the wrong side of history"?
How could this possibly go wrong.
People can be frustrated and behave like assholes without being true bigots. Either way I don't think the solution to the "forced reeducation problem" is to apply the same kind of tricks and rules to the people that are trying to "reeducate" people.
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