[QUOTE=Mexican;20642798]You know they force you to write that way right?[/QUOTE]
They certainly don't force me to.
[QUOTE=waxrock;20642812]They certainly don't force me to.[/QUOTE]
the fuck man.
Stupid poor ass rural schools.
I lost entire letter grades for not doing perfect conclusions.
[QUOTE=Mexican;20642798]You know they force you to write that way right?[/QUOTE]
they shouldn't be past 8th grade
only time I ever had a teacher take points for that is when we were learning the 5 paragraph structure itself. After that (excluding SATs / timed essay prompts) they don't care
that's what the 5 paragraph structure is for, timed essays such as the SATs where you're really not supposed to go into great detail
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;20642841]they shouldn't be past 8th grade
only time I ever had a teacher take points for that is when we were learning the 5 paragraph structure itself. After that (excluding SATs / timed essay prompts) they don't care
that's what the 5 paragraph structure is for, timed essays such as the SATs where you're really not supposed to go into great detail[/QUOTE]
I think my school was more focused on having a year long SAT prep so they'd get good funding.
[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;20641434]
8th grade was easy as hell I wish I could go back to being an 8th grader[/QUOTE]
Quoted for fucking truth.
I did 0 HW all of 8th grade and i got easy A's across the board.
[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;20641434]what are you talking about
8th grade was easy as hell I wish I could go back to being an 8th grader[/QUOTE]
A-fucking-greed.
Except for my music class. I fucked around waaaaay too much in there and got a C somehow as if it matters.
Oh and math. Fucking Alg2. Let me just copy all the odds and work out the evens.
I'm attending a college and I found high school to be a complete joke. I agree with OP.
Of course high school is a joke. The stuff that you learn is important, and will be used later in life, but the real purpose of high school is to acclimate you to spending your days doing work in a heavily structured and controlled environment, completely subject to whoever the authority figure is. You can do better in life if you actually learn the curriculum, but it's really just designed to beat the individuality and creativity out of you so that you'll bitch less in the stratified, circular, mind-numbing reality that is making a living in a service economy.
Guys is this thread Thread where like, we get to complain about how Grammar is useless in school, and shouldn't even be a Subject because it doesn't teach life Skills?
[QUOTE=Symmetry;20643081]Guys is this thread Thread where like, we get to complain about how Grammar is useless in school, and shouldn't even be a Subject because it doesn't teach life Skills?[/QUOTE]
Its the thread where you read the OP and get a clue before posting.
I said Grammar was important.
[QUOTE=TheRipper12;20643104]Its the thread where you read the OP and get a clue before posting.
I said Grammar was important.[/QUOTE]
dood, ur missin an apostrofe
The U.S. education system fails for reasons besides those you mentioned. Almost any "When am I ever gonna use this?" can only be answered with "In college".
The main problem lies in the fact that they assume most high-schoolers still don't have an idea of what they are going to do after graduation, and so they continue the incredibly broken teach-a-little-of-everything idea. I understand the need for college prep, but when you're learning the most applicable skills in elective classes [b]as a friggin junior[/b] then problems have arisen.
Also, this:
[url]http://s-wordsblog.blogspot.com/2010/03/america-why-its-best-stock-to-own.html[/url]
So I'm assuming OP, like me, is in a school that's pretty much only concerned with getting high state test scores so they can maintain a budget. I didn't even realize I wasn't getting a proper education until right now. So in that case, [I]then[/I] can we see the flaws in the system?
[QUOTE=Reach;20643201]The U.S. education system fails for reasons besides those you mentioned. Almost any "When am I ever gonna use this?" can only be answered with "In college".
The main problem lies in the fact that they assume most high-schoolers still don't have an idea of what they are going to do after graduation, and so they continue the incredibly broken teach-a-little-of-everything idea. I understand the need for college prep, but when you're learning the most applicable skills in elective classes [B]as a friggin junior[/B] then problems have arisen.
Also, this:
[URL]http://s-wordsblog.blogspot.com/2010/03/america-why-its-best-stock-to-own.html[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;20642757]the United states has what one would call a liberal education system (part of the liberal market economy), which means early on we're taught very broad topics while most places in western europe are taught specifics so that they get an awesome education in [I]one specific subject.[/I] The benefit of our system is that when you lose your job in a recession, you don't get buttfucked because you can't find another job (something that tends to happen in coordinated market economies), as you've got the general education to back you up. It leans towards people in EU generally getting a more specified education that interests them more and trains them more intricately.[/QUOTE]
our education system ties into our economic structure. CME's have a much steadier lifestyle, they have gradual rises in stocks / overall wealth. The LME system (which I believe may be exclusive to America, but I'm not positive) features massive explosions of economic activity, which is why many business practices originate here, and then are perfected after their worth is shown. Our economic system is far more unstable, but we also feature some of the best business / economic / idealogical revolutions on earth.
the LME and the way we're taught in school is what makes America, America. Specialization in our culture as is is a terrible idea at a young age, which is why we save it for when students have a bit more of a world view and are entering into secondary schooling
[QUOTE=Reach;20643201]
Also, this:
[url]http://s-wordsblog.blogspot.com/2010/03/america-why-its-best-stock-to-own.html[/url][/QUOTE]
What an enormous load of horse shit. Tell that to the teachers that are losing their jobs in my town this year because the governor wanted to buy some votes with tax cuts and decided the public school system was the best place to cut. There is NOBODY sitting around doing nothing, it's an incredibly demanding job. You try herding a bunch of 2nd graders together for at least a few minutes of actual education when half of them are autistic or hyperactive or hopped up on antidepressants.
[QUOTE=Mexican;20643253]So I'm assuming OP, like me, is in a school that's pretty much only concerned with getting high state test scores so they can maintain a budget. I didn't even realize I wasn't getting a proper education until right now. So in that case, [I]then[/I] can we see the flaws in the system?[/QUOTE]
the system is fine you're just experiencing the problem of when the federal government oversteps its bounds
it's funny how GWB is a republican (who are largely known for "small federal government" with more focus on the state power) and then he pulls the bullshit that is No Child Left Behind
politicians have to get the fact that coercive federalism is a dick practice and does not work
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;20643348]What an enormous load of horse shit. Tell that to the teachers that are losing their jobs in my town this year because the governor wanted to buy some votes with tax cuts and decided the public school system was the best place to cut. There is NOBODY sitting around doing nothing, it's an incredibly demanding job. You try herding a bunch of 2nd graders together for at least a few minutes of actual education when half of them are autistic or hyperactive or hopped up on antidepressants.[/QUOTE]
this post got me to read the article
what the fuck is that shit going on about, it's completely false in [I]every fucking way. [/I]Education is extremely competitive, it's simply that schools are taking on a much larger role than they used to. Academics is no longer the only primary goal of the education system, it's societal development. Each school has a "hidden agenda" (don't take it negatively) that generally shapes the way a child develops in american society so that they're grown to be tolerant and a productive member of society. That's the only reason why it may not seem as "competitive," because teachers take on more shit than they used to, and that's why it seems that it takes a criminal record to get one fired (which is actually entirely not true - the general reasons teachers don't get fired is that the education system is an extremely personalized institution, with coworkers having both professional and personal relationships with their colleagues).
I've got three family members that work as teachers, and they each work their ass off. that article is entirely bullshit and extremely biased
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;20643348]What an enormous load of horse shit. Tell that to the teachers that are losing their jobs in my town this year because the governor wanted to buy some votes with tax cuts and decided the public school system was the best place to cut. There is NOBODY sitting around doing nothing, it's an incredibly demanding job. You try herding a bunch of 2nd graders together for at least a few minutes of actual education when half of them are autistic or hyperactive or hopped up on antidepressants.[/QUOTE]
I'm a senior/grade 12, here in Canada and sometimes teachers just don't feel like showing up or doing any work, so a lot of the times we have supplies or some other teacher and we do no work.
I had a physics test on centripetal motion, but we haven't even covered that unit yet, that's how far we are behind.
Yet I'm supposed to get into university with a test I failed because our teachers suck balls.
And my school is just a typical school, there are better and worse out there.
[B]more basic [I]algebra[/I] math, Very important, everyone will use this regardless of professions.
[/B]
When?
Middle school through High school is more or less bullshit...now that I'm in college I feel as if I'm actually learning something
OP's spelling is proof of his point of how education sucks
[QUOTE=Monkeytracks;20643534][B]more basic [I]algebra[/I] math, Very important, everyone will use this regardless of professions.
[/B]
When?[/QUOTE]
I'm too tired to think of examples but there's a lot. Once you get into trig it becomes more "career in math" oriented". But algebra is some basic important shit. I don't even think of it as algebra anymore, it's just all as natural as 2 + 2.
I wanna be a nuclear physics or a business man
[QUOTE=Mexican;20643569]I'm too tired to think of examples but there's a lot. Once you get into trig it becomes more "career in math" oriented". But algebra is some basic important shit. I don't even think of it as algebra anymore, it's just all as natural as 2 + 2.[/QUOTE]
Yeah you really won't use the high level algebra but some everyday stuff if algebra you just setup the equations in your head and solve them and you don't really realize it
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