[QUOTE=MisterMooth;50690827]So when you call the director a manbaby that's not shit flinging?[/QUOTE]
Well no, he literally broke down on set crying because his dance number in the middle of his ghostbusters movie turned out to be a shit idea.
[QUOTE=MisterMooth;50690827]Or when you complain about misandrist things that's not at all comparable to people complaining about misogynistic things?[/QUOTE]
Considering the misogyny claims are nigh exclusively bullshit, and the films villain is literally beaten by the girls spraying him with lasers in the dick, yeah.
Also considering the director literally said something about all men being completely unfunny or something along those lines, i need to find the quote.
[editline]11th July 2016[/editline]
Again, you're trying to zing me but you dont know what you're talking about because you havent done your homework.
[QUOTE=Kartoffel;50690519]Let's also not forget that just because critics gave a film a good review, doesn't mean a film is good.
For instance, "The Witch".
[url]https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_witch_2016/[/url][/QUOTE]
I'll have you for this.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;50690837]Well no, he literally broke down on set crying because his dance number in the middle of his ghostbusters movie turned out to be a shit idea.
Considering the misogyny claims are nigh exclusively bullshit, and the films villain is literally beaten by the girls spraying him with lasers in the dick, yeah.
Also considering the director literally said something about all men being completely unfunny or something along those lines, i need to find the quote.
[editline]11th July 2016[/editline]
Again, you're trying to zing me but you dont know what you're talking about because you havent done your homework.[/QUOTE]
All your posts reek of confirmation bias. You can't claim to be the rational one while thinking the whole drama here is exclusively one sided and there couldn't at all be a middle ground and an explanation that isn't rooted in heated, opinionated internet posts and videos. Me saying that not all the positive reviews are shills and that maybe it's not the worst film ever aren't really bold claims and they really shouldn't be as controversial as you think, and whatever morally wrong things Sony may be guilty of don't really detract from that to the extent you'd like to believe.
[QUOTE=MisterMooth;50690889]All your posts reek of confirmation bias. You can't claim to be the rational one while thinking the whole drama here is exclusively one sided [/QUOTE]
I mean, it is. Wildly so.
People disliked a movie and its premise, thats the extent of the other sides "shitfling".
The other side literally went on a fucking smear campaign.
[QUOTE=MisterMooth;50690889]and there couldn't at all be a middle ground and an explanation that isn't rooted in heated, opinionated internet posts and videos. [/QUOTE]
Those videos i linked are anything but opinionated or heated, its mostly just facts. Not that you'd know since you still refuse to watch them.
[QUOTE=MisterMooth;50690889]Me saying that not all the positive reviews are shills and that maybe it's not the worst film ever aren't really bold claims and they really shouldn't be as controversial as you think, and whatever morally wrong things Sony may be guilty of don't really detract from that to the extent you'd like to believe.[/QUOTE]
Might have a point if pretty much everyone praising it wasnt still repeating the same exact misogyny rhetoric, barely even talking about the actual film itself.
[editline]11th July 2016[/editline]
You have [b]NOTHING.[/b]
Give me a straight answer, friend. Why is it you wont watch those videos?
Oh.
OH.
Wait, lemme guess, dont tell me.
You're afraid you might be wrong, isnt it?
Gotta say this thread is the biggest shitshow since the time the guy had his Sonic Futas.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;50690930]Gotta say this thread is the biggest shitshow since the time the guy had his Sonic Futas.[/QUOTE]
Clearly you didnt see the thread beautifully titled "FAGGOT FAGGOT FAGGOT FAGGOT FAGGOT" a few days ago.
Fun times.
The guy defending ghostbusters 2016 uses nothing but insults, projection and strawmanning to do so?
I'm shocked
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;50690938]The guy defending ghostbusters 2016 uses nothing but insults and strawmanning to do so?
I'm shocked[/QUOTE]
Its like, trying to come up with an argument is hard or something.
Because you gotta like, know things.
I was almost forced to see my argument is bad, then I realized you're probably just a mental patient, tough luck kiddo
Edit:
Also I'm changing what the argument is
Damn you, foiled again.
Hahaha what a shitmovie, it's so hilarious with the butthurt SJW and their cuckssss getting mad that their power fantasy is getting bad reviews.
[highlight](User was banned for this post ("Shitpost, cuck shit" - Novangel))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=!LORD M!;50690953]Hahaha what a shitmovie, it's so hilarious with the butthurt SJW and their cuckssss getting mad that their power fantasy is getting bad reviews.[/QUOTE]
You wanna join in too? I mean i was cool with the one dude but if you wanna make it a party im game.
I mean i'll just be repeating myself, seems to happen a lot when im arguing against multiple people about an easy to understand point and they're blatantly ignoring things left and right to try and prove a nonexistent stance on something because they're not informed and dont want to be proven wrong, but i'll still do it if you want.
[QUOTE=Kartoffel;50690519]Let's also not forget that just because critics gave a film a good review, doesn't mean a film is good.
For instance, "The Witch".
[url]https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_witch_2016/[/url][/QUOTE]
Except the Witch IS a good film. Easy 8/10
[QUOTE=!LORD M!;50690953]Hahaha what a shitmovie, it's so hilarious with the butthurt SJW and their cuckssss getting mad that their power fantasy is getting bad reviews.[/QUOTE]
Nice post my man, nice, very good. It's clear from your post that you've done your research, and are informed about the topic.
[QUOTE=Primigenes;50691076]To be fair I wouldn't argue with you guys either. This thread is like a mix of people calling out to RedLetterMedia as if they were their adopted fathers, calling people who enjoy the movie a shill, and posting youtube videos to explain their point to others all build on a foundation based on confirmation bias.
It's kind of pathetic. Especially those posts about RLM, like what are they weaning you for WW3? Anyway, its not that serious[/QUOTE]
Oh so you wouldnt argue because you cant be bothered to actually do research and explain your argument.
I gave him those videos literally so he'd understand every important factoid in a timely manor.
[editline]11th July 2016[/editline]
Heeey.
I recognize you, you're that guy who always acts smugly superior to other people, arent you?
Sorry if you're not, im not racist but you all kind of look alike.
[QUOTE=MisterMooth;50690489]Firstly, do you actually have evidence that Sony have taken down reviews? I don't even see how such a thing could be possible.
Secondly I don't see how that accounts for almost 80% of reviewers as of counting writing positive reviews. Also how is that any different to everyone here declaring the film would absolutely have to be terrible from the beginning? You can't accuse people of being not objective when you're doing the exact same thing from the other side of the fence.
I'm not even that interested in seeing the film but it's insane just how much outrage and shit flinging is going on with this film which is turning out to be just a pretty average-decent film that people will forget about once the anger stops.[/QUOTE]
"You don't even have evidence"
*someone posts evidence*
"DO YOU ACTUALLY HAVE EVIDENCE"
deleting reviews or just comments that are bad is an insanely common practice. Indie devs do this all the time, you can just look this shit up and find it, "greenlight dev deletes comments". Even bigger studios might try it as well, or try and have only good reviews published by only handing it out to paid review sites.
[QUOTE=MisterMooth;50690710]well I have learned how much of a pompous wanker you are :)[/QUOTE]
and then you just resort to being purely childish afterwards
god dude, stop, you're an idiot
[QUOTE=bdd458;50690993]Except the Witch IS a good film. Easy 8/10[/QUOTE]
Probably a matter of perspective. I found it to be long winded and boring, and it seems a lot of people agree with me in that regard. I can understand that people can like it though. It had fantastic visuals and was genuinely interesting at the beginning. However, it dragged on for far too long and the ending really wasn't much of a payoff for the amount of build up that the film had.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;50690969]You wanna join in too? I mean i was cool with the one dude but if you wanna make it a party im game.
I mean i'll just be repeating myself, seems to happen a lot when im arguing against multiple people about an easy to understand point and they're blatantly ignoring things left and right to try and prove a nonexistent stance on something because they're not informed and dont want to be proven wrong, but i'll still do it if you want.[/QUOTE]
I haven't ignored anything and I am very informed on current affairs, but you seem to ignore that it is a bad movie. You just don't want to be proven wrong.
[QUOTE=bdd458;50690993]Except the Witch IS a good film. Easy 8/10[/QUOTE]
I thought it was good until I started looking back at it afterwards, then it felt a bit bland tbh. It was interesting, but nothing more to me.
[QUOTE=Alrækinn;50691017]Nice post my man, nice, very good. It's clear from your post that you've done your research, and are informed about the topic.[/QUOTE]
Just because I haven't read about the movie, nor seen it or know much about it doesn't mean I am uninformed or haven't done my research.
[QUOTE=!LORD M!;50691124]I haven't ignored anything and I am very informed on current affairs, but you seem to ignore that it is a bad movie. You just don't want to be proven wrong.[/QUOTE]
This is confusing me in a non sexual way and i wouldnt like either.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;50691083]
Heeey.
I recognize you, you're that guy who always acts smugly superior to other people, arent you?
Sorry if you're not, im not racist but you all kind of look alike.[/QUOTE]
this is such a weird thing to read, I don't get where that's coming from
[QUOTE=AaronM202;50691128]This is confusing me in a non sexual way and i wouldnt like either.[/QUOTE]
Sorry I don't understand?
[QUOTE=Primigenes;50691135]Uh, why are you so mad? It's just a movie no need to throw personal attacks at people. [/QUOTE]
Not mad at all.
[QUOTE=Primigenes;50691135]By the way you do understand that it's probably faster to summarize those videos as opposed to telling someone to watch them[/QUOTE]
They have the time to spend an hour arguing with me, they have the time to watch the in depth videos with pictures.
[QUOTE=Primigenes;50691135]Also you straight up came out of nowhere and told him you were going to give him a history lesson.
You're the smug one here and incredibly so at that.[/QUOTE]
Okay.
[QUOTE=Primigenes;50691135]You literally went out of your way to talk to another user and state how "This small part of me thinks that Mooth may be a ration human being". You're speaking to him and about him like he's a little kid.[/QUOTE]
Considering he cant follow the simple direction of "watch this thing it'll help you understand better and easier than if i explained it in a long winded page long post that'd be sore on the eyes to read", i see no reason why i shouldnt. He's provided not a single good or valid argument that i couldnt immediately fire back on using actual evidence provided by those videos, articles written by idiots, and this very thread. If he cared enough to spend an hour of his life passive aggressively attempting to insult my intelligence, he could've watched the videos and saved the embarrassment.
[QUOTE=Primigenes;50691135]I don't know if you're trying to be a jerk or not.[/QUOTE]
Give me a reason not to be.
[editline]11th July 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=J!NX;50691143]this is such a weird thing to read, I don't get where that's coming from[/QUOTE]
I think i kinda slurred an attempt to reference him doing something similar before that i've seen with a joke but its all fucked up because im sleep deprived.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;50691163]They have the time to spend an hour arguing with me, they have the time to watch the in depth videos with pictures.[/QUOTE]
That's a really shitty way to try to prove your point.
[QUOTE=!LORD M!;50691183]That's a really shitty way to try to prove your point.[/QUOTE]
Is it?
Do tell.
[editline]11th July 2016[/editline]
No, really. I do want you to explain it to me.
Tell me why i have to type out a script form of a video that explains exactly what he wants me to tell him when he could go watch the damn thing himself.
AaronM202, you've explained why those videos talk about what a shitshow the development of the movies were, and I won't disagree with you there, but can you link to a timestamp to where in the video it proves most of the reviews are fake/shills? I don't have time to watch them, but if there's good evidence of this, I really want to know about it.
[QUOTE=Helix Snake;50691200]AaronM202, you've explained why those videos talk about what a shitshow the development of the movies were, and I won't disagree with you there, but can you link to a timestamp to where in the video it proves most of the reviews are fake/shills? I don't have time to watch them, but if there's good evidence of this, I really want to know about it.[/QUOTE]
I dont see why i should even have to but if it'll make them happy, fuck it, dont have anything better to do right now.
[editline]11th July 2016[/editline]
I mean two of those videos pretty much go over the topic in full.
They're titled " Ghostbusters: The REAL Reasons for the Backlash and Controversy" and "Ghostbusters: Sony Hits Back at Fan Backlash"
So a specific timestamp might be hard.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;50691191]Is it?
Do tell.
[editline]11th July 2016[/editline]
No, really. I do want you to explain it to me.
Tell me why i have to type out a script form of a video that explains exactly what he wants me to tell him when he could go watch the damn thing himself.[/QUOTE]
Because it show's you cannot speak for and/or express yourself and must use others to do it for you, showing you don't know the subject as well as how you want to be portrayed.
And it is very lazy and convenient.
[QUOTE=!LORD M!;50691124]
Just because I haven't read about the movie, nor seen it or know much about it doesn't mean I am uninformed or haven't done my research.[/QUOTE]
So, just to restate so I'm getting you clearly here
- You haven't read about the movie
- You haven't seen the movie
- You don't know much about the movie
I'm sorry but from where the average person is standing, and especially from where I'm standing, that sounds like you haven't done your research on the topic. It sounds like what you're referring to is being generally educated on the [i]"social climate"[/i] and making calls from what you know in that.
[editline]almost forgot[/editline]
Also I really don't understand this new fangled practice of coming into a debate with what is essentially a shit post, then tossing your hat in when people look at the post negatively.
[QUOTE=!LORD M!;50691231]Because it show's you cannot speak for and/or express yourself and must use others to do it for you, showing you don't know the subject as well as how you want to be portrayed.[/QUOTE]
Why should i bother if they're going to ignore whatever the fuck i say anyway.
Second time this week i'd have to deal with this shit. Im done playing nice. You dont want to look at the links i give you? You dont deserve me explaining it to you like a toddler.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;50691237]Why should i bother if they're going to ignore whatever the fuck i say anyway.[/QUOTE]
Then why are you here or even arguing for your sake? Your cause is doomed according to you!
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