I honestly don't care about drugs, I don't do them, and if they are legalized I dont want my family to get hurt from them
[QUOTE=KaIibos;20274948]Kids don't buy alcohol or tobacco from dealers on the street, even though they can't get them from a shop.[/QUOTE]
Yes they would if someone would be selling there.
[QUOTE=KaIibos;20274948]What? Why? The price the dealer would be selling them at would be way more than the drug would be worth anyway. Kids don't buy alcohol or tobacco from dealers on the street, even though they can't get them from a shop.
And uhhh, your second point is completely irrelevant. The same thing can be said about virtually anything, legal or not.[/QUOTE]
Minors could not buy the drugs from the shop, and the drug dealer could get drugs easily.
[QUOTE=Maucer;20274733]Erm yes, many would. You know how stupid people are.[/QUOTE]
Not if they hadn't tried it, and if they did they deserve what they get. Education is better than "No you can't have that, because we said so."
[QUOTE=Mr. Kyle;20275002]Minors could not buy the drugs from the shop, and the drug dealer could get drugs easily.[/QUOTE]
I think what he's saying is there wouldn't be a need for drug dealers if they were legal. I highly doubt drug dealers would exist just to give drugs to minors.
[QUOTE=OutOfExile;20275060]I think what he's saying is there wouldn't be a need for drug dealers if they were legal. I highly doubt drug dealers would exist just to give drugs to minors.[/QUOTE]
The minors couldn't buy drugs from the shop.
[QUOTE=evilking1;20274994]Yes they would if someone would be selling there.[/QUOTE]
But people don't do that. Legal adults do not make any serious money off buying things legally in stores and then selling them illegally to minors. It just is not economically feasible, and thus is does not happen.
[QUOTE=Mr. Kyle;20275002]Minors could not buy the drugs from the shop, and the drug dealer could get drugs easily.[/QUOTE]
Looped arguments for the win. See above.
[QUOTE=slippp22;20274979]I honestly don't care about drugs, I don't do them, and if they are legalized I dont want my family to get hurt from them[/QUOTE]
So are you saying you decide what your family can and can't do? Skydiving is dangerous, so is driving, can they do that? If people were educated instead of scare-mongered then maybe drugs wouldn't have the reputation they have today.
[QUOTE=evilking1;20274973]Or a clothing hanger / hammer.[/QUOTE]
Which is the easier option? I personally know a few addicts who have steady jobs. Only homeless or mentally challenged people who try heroin would fit in the scenario you describe.
[QUOTE=OutOfExile;20274933]Some drugs can make you hurt others.[/QUOTE]
There are far more sober people hurting others than coked out/PCP'd/drunk people hurting others.
[QUOTE=Mr. Kyle;20275108]The minors couldn't buy drugs from the shop.[/QUOTE]
That response doesn't have anything to do with my statement. Nice reading.
[QUOTE=evilking1;20274489]It's not since the government wants just to be mean bitch, but it's since releasing all drugs to the open market would make the society quite shit.
If it were up to me I'd ban alcohol for the huge social problems it creates. And tobacco while we are at it.
And release weed so everybody would be too lazy to bitch about it.[/QUOTE]
Do you know what the Prohibition was? And the effects it had on crime rates? It was pretty much the main cause of increasing mafia violence. Not to mention all the bootlegging and moonshiners. It also gave birth to NASCAR. Yeah alcohol will never be banned.
[QUOTE=Mr. Kyle;20274751]It would be easier.[/QUOTE]
Do you even know what the fuck you're talking about?
Right now it's much easier for kids to get weed or coke than it is to get alcohol or tobacco. You know why? Because dealers don't care about your age, just your money. However, if drugs were sold in regulated shops, you, as a kid, wouldn't be able to go in and just buy a bag of weed.
Making drugs legal is a better way to control the sale of them, and who is buying them.
[QUOTE=OutOfExile;20274933]Some drugs can make you hurt others.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, like alcohol :V
Seriously, alcohol must be the drug that makes you the most aggressive. You don't get urges to rape, kill or assault on weed/acid/opiates/amphetamine/whatever. Alcohol is the drug that makes you the most aggressive, and it's legal.
[QUOTE=OutOfExile;20275142]That response doesn't have anything to do with my statement. Nice reading.[/QUOTE]
If the drugs were legal, kids couldn't just walk in and buy whatever they want, so the drug dealers would still have to supply the drugs.
Legal highs are a waste of money. The place near me sells salvia at ridiculous prices, it's cheaper to buy weed.
[QUOTE=Mindtwistah;20275200]Making drugs legal is a better way to control the sale of them, and who is buying them..[/QUOTE]
You have changed my outlook on it.
I thinking the flaming is done now.
[QUOTE=Mr. Kyle;20275201]If the drugs were legal, kids couldn't just walk in and buy whatever they want, so the drug dealers would still have to supply the drugs.[/QUOTE]
Drug dealers don't sell alcohol. Kids have to get older people to buy it, which can be difficult. It's common knowledge.
One has opened near me in Dun Laoghaire. I don't think it gets much business!
Cannabis Culture in downtown Toronto is badass. Been in there twice before, they even sell seeds.
[QUOTE=Mr. Kyle;20275201]If the drugs were legal, kids couldn't just walk in and buy whatever they want, so the drug dealers would still have to supply the drugs.[/QUOTE]
Dear god you have the worst reading comprehension I have ever seen.
[quote] there wouldn't be a need for drug dealers if they were legal. I highly doubt drug dealers would exist just to give drugs to minors.[/quote]
Read that five times and then maybe you'll understand it.
[QUOTE=franz;20275287]Drug dealers don't sell alcohol. Kids have to get older people to buy it. It's common knowledge.[/QUOTE]
I never said anything about alcohol.
[QUOTE=Mr. Kyle;20275201]If the drugs were legal, kids couldn't just walk in and buy whatever they want, so the drug dealers would still have to supply the drugs.[/QUOTE]
you're not [B]FUCKING LISTENING[/B]
the circumstances in which your scenario takes place ALREADY EXIST, AND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING [B]DOES NOT[/B] HAPPEN
I'll make this veeeeewy simple for you
Alcohol and tobacco are unavailable to minors
Kids still want alcohol and tobacco
There are [B]NO[/B] "alcohol and tobacco dealers" that buy alcohol and tobacco from stores legally and sell them to minors illegally. It's unnecessarily dangerous and I can't imagine it being very profitable [I]at all.[/I]
You're saying something will happen under a certain set of circumstances but we already live under those circumstances and what you're saying will happen, [B]DOESN'T[/B]
[QUOTE=KaIibos;20274823]ummmm no it wouldn't
as it is right now, a kid can pretty easily find a drug dealer and buy whatever they want no questions asked as long as they have the money
if said drugs were legal and regulated, the kid would have to go into a shop that's licensed to sell them, which the shop keep would not do because it would be against the law to sell the drugs to minors[/QUOTE]
That's fucking idiotic. First of all its [B]not easy[/B] nor safe (at least not in the most parts of the world) to find a dealer. I dont know a single dealer in my town and I know lots of people. I could probably find more than 100 18/21 year olds who would be willing to buy some alcohol for free or if I throw them a few euroes.
If drugs were legal and regulated, people wouldn't follow the regulations, thousands of people would overdose, people would be able to work and anyone would be able to get drugs. They would be much cheaper too, as most of the price builds up when they are smuggled across the border.
Tell me one, just ONE big benefit that would happen if drugs were legalized.
[QUOTE]There are NO "alcohol and tobacco dealers" that buy alcohol and tobacco from stores legally and sell them to minors illegally. It's unnecessarily dangerous and I can't imagine it being very profitable at all. [/QUOTE]
Erm I don't know where you live but without lying I could find 100 people whod get me a box of beer or a bottle of vodka for 4€. Most of the time my friends don't ask anything, but I give them a few euros. I do this every few weekends and I've done for more than 1.5 years. I'm 16 at the moment.
[QUOTE=Mr. Kyle;20275306]I never said anything about alcohol.[/QUOTE]
He's using it as a comparasion. Alcohol is a legal "drug" and there arn't any shady alcohol dealers around. You just go to the store to buy it.
[QUOTE=KaIibos;20275320]you're not [B]FUCKING LISTENING[/B]
the circumstances in which your scenario takes place ALREADY EXISTS, AND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING [B]DOES NOT[/B] HAPPEN
I'll make this veeeeewy simple for you
Alcohol and tobacco are unavailable to minors
Kids still want alcohol and tobacco
There are [B]NO[/B] "alcohol and tobacco dealers" that buy alcohol and tobacco from stores legally and sell them to minors illegally. It's unnecessarily dangerous and I can't imagine it being very profitable [I]at all.[/I]
You're saying something will happen under a certain set of circumstances but we already live under those circumstances and what you're saying will happen, [B]DOESN'T[/B][/QUOTE]
Ok ok, I understand, thank you.
[QUOTE=FINLEY;20275208]Legal highs are a waste of money. The place near me sells salvia at ridiculous prices, it's cheaper to buy weed.[/QUOTE]
Weed and Salvia are nothing alike. Like saying it's cheaper to buy suger than salt.
[QUOTE=Mr. Kyle;20275306]I never said anything about alcohol.[/QUOTE]
Oh lord, you have terrible comprehension.
I think another funny thing is the existence of pipe shops, (usually selling glass pieces, hookahs, bongs, etc.) that are just OBVIOUSLY for smoking weed, just the government can't do anything cause they're not actually selling any in the store itself.
In California they have a ton of them, but there are always people who freak out every time they notice they're there.
[QUOTE=Maucer;20275339]That's fucking idiotic. First of all its [B]not easy[/B] nor safe (at least not in the most parts of the world) to find a dealer. I dont know a single dealer in my town and I know lots of people. I could probably find more than 100 18/21 year olds who would be willing to buy some alcohol for free or if I throw them a few euroes.
If drugs were legal and regulated, people wouldn't follow the regulations, thousands of people would overdose, people would be able to work and anyone would be able to get drugs. They would be much cheaper too, as most of the price builds up when they are smuggled across the border.
Tell me one, just ONE big benefit that would happen if drugs were legalized.[/QUOTE]
More money from tax for Health.
Oh and it isn't hard to find a dealer, you just don't know the right people.
[QUOTE=Maucer;20275339]That's fucking idiotic. First of all its [B]not easy[/B] nor safe (at least not in the most parts of the world) to find a dealer. I dont know a single dealer in my town and I know lots of people. I could probably find more than 100 18/21 year olds who would be willing to buy some alcohol for free or if I throw them a few euroes.
If drugs were legal and regulated, people wouldn't follow the regulations, thousands of people would overdose, people would be able to work and anyone would be able to get drugs. They would be much cheaper too, as most of the price builds up when they are smuggled across the border.
Tell me one, just ONE big benefit that would happen if drugs were legalized.[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry but your wrong. You can't find a single dealer in your town? Yeah sure. You obviously haven't even looked. It is not hard whatsoever to get drugs. I can call a guy from my school this second and go pick some up if i want to. And use alcohol as a comparasion. Alcohol is legal, is it smuggled across the border cause the prices are "too high"? No. Do more people get alcohol poisoning if alcohol is legal vs if it isn't? No. And if were only talking about weed anyway you can't overdose in the first place.
[QUOTE=KaIibos;20274722]newsflash moron
it's easier for kids to buy coke and pills than it is to buy cigs and alcohol[/QUOTE]
No it isn't. I know two houses that sell fags. £3.50 for a pack of 20 Regal King Size. Better than ASDA.
Other one sells JB for same price.
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