[QUOTE=bobske123;20275454]No it isn't. I know two houses that sell fags. £3.50 for a pack of 20 Regal King Size. Better than ASDA.
Other one sells JB for same price.[/QUOTE]
Chances are they are selling drugs as well.
[QUOTE=Maucer;20275339]That's fucking idiotic. First of all its [B]not easy[/B] nor safe (at least not in the most parts of the world) to find a dealer.[/QUOTE]
I said it was easy I didn't say it was safe
[QUOTE=Maucer;20275339]I dont know a single dealer in my town and I know lots of people.[/QUOTE]
that's because you've never looked for one. Also I bet that you know at least one but you don't know they sell drugs because they don't bring it up because it's irrelevant to your relationship
[QUOTE=Maucer;20275339]I could probably find more than 100 18/21 year olds who would be willing to buy some alcohol for free or if I throw them a few euroes.[/QUOTE]
okay?
[QUOTE=Maucer;20275339]If drugs were legal and regulated, people wouldn't follow the regulations,[/QUOTE]
why not? People (mostly) follow the regulations on currently legal drugs
[QUOTE=Maucer;20275339]thousands of people would overdose,[/QUOTE]
people overdose on everything, legal or not. That has nothing to do with it
[QUOTE=Maucer;20275339]people would be able to work[/QUOTE]
???
[QUOTE=Maucer;20275339]and anyone would be able to get drugs.[/QUOTE]
anyone can already get drugs
[QUOTE=Maucer;20275339]They would be much cheaper too, as most of the price builds up when they are smuggled across the border.[/QUOTE]
yup, what's your point?
[QUOTE=Maucer;20275339]Tell me one, just ONE big benefit that would happen if drugs were legalized.[/QUOTE]
I could grow my own medicine
[QUOTE=Maucer;20275339]That's fucking idiotic. First of all its [B]not easy[/B] nor safe (at least not in the most parts of the world) to find a dealer. I dont know a single dealer in my town and I know lots of people. I could probably find more than 100 18/21 year olds who would be willing to buy some alcohol for free or if I throw them a few euroes.[/QUOTE]
You don't know about it because you've never tried finding drugs. It's fairly easy (and safe) to find drugs in most cities and suburbs.
[QUOTE=Maucer;20275339]If drugs were legal and regulated, people wouldn't follow the regulations, thousands of people would overdose, people would be able to work and anyone would be able to get drugs. They would be much cheaper too, as most of the price builds up when they are smuggled across the border.[/QUOTE]
You're wrong. I don't get why so many people believe there would be an armageddon. All drugs are already legal in some places, and nothing of the sort happened.
[QUOTE=Maucer;20275339]Tell me one, just ONE big benefit that would happen if drugs were legalized.[/QUOTE]
Non-violent drug users wouldn't go to jail. Sending people to jail simply for the possession of drugs has wasted TONS of money.
[QUOTE=ac9s39;20275355]Weed and Salvia are nothing alike. Like saying it's cheaper to buy suger than salt.[/QUOTE]
that'd be a good analogy if the said salt was salt that would bring you to an alternate dimension where only spiritual existance is the absolute truth
[QUOTE=ac9s39;20275512]Chances are they are selling drugs as well.[/QUOTE]
Yup.
I'm sure the one that sells Regals spikes her cigarettes with something.
Feels good though.
If people want to fuck up their lives then let them.
[QUOTE=franz;20274345]I think all drugs should be legal. It isn't the government's job to control what we put in our bodies.[/QUOTE]
This is a retarded argument. I don't give a fuck what you do to yourself, but when you kill someone because you were driving while high, then I give a fuck.
[QUOTE=Agoat;20274408]Instead of metaphorically feeding the man for a day, you give him a metaphorical fishing pole so he can grow pot.
Loopholes![/QUOTE]
I wanna get me one of these fishing poles that grows pot.
[QUOTE=ac9s39;20275402]More money from tax for Health.[/QUOTE]
Do you really think [U]Tax money from drugs > Health costs because of drugs[/U] ?
[QUOTE=ac9s39;20275402]Oh and it isn't hard to find a dealer, you just don't know the right people.[/QUOTE]
Yep! I don't know the right people. And thats the thing.
There aren't many dealers here -> Dealers are older than kids and don't generally spend time with them -> Drugs aren't easy to get.
[QUOTE=Thorny;20275588]This is a retarded argument. I don't give a fuck what you do to yourself, but when you kill someone because you were driving while high, then I give a fuck.[/QUOTE]
Driving while high is far safer than driving while drunk. Legalizing drugs will not cause people to shoot up heroin while driving.
[QUOTE=Thorny;20275588]This is a retarded argument. I don't give a fuck what you do to yourself, but when you kill someone because you were driving while high, then I give a fuck.[/QUOTE]
Yeah but think about it the same goes for alcohol and it is legal. So is having alcohol legal retarded? Cause DUIs are really prevelant.
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[QUOTE=Maucer;20275625]Do you really think [U]Tax money from drugs > Health costs because of drugs[/U] ?
Yep! I don't know the right people. And thats the thing.
There aren't many dealers here -> Dealers are older than kids and don't generally spend time with them -> Drugs aren't easy to get.[/QUOTE]
So basically you're under the age of 14 and don't know any drug dealers. Not that you can't find any you are just too scared to look. And really people always picture drug dealers as some beast who will stab you and take your money. What would be the point in that? You're his customer and assuming you're going to return to purchase again once and a while if anything he would treat you better then normal people
[QUOTE=Maucer;20275625]There aren't many dealers here -> Dealers are older than kids and don't generally spend time with them -> Drugs aren't easy to get.[/QUOTE]
Everything you just said proves to me beyond the shadow of a doubt that you have no idea what you're talking about
[QUOTE=Maucer;20275625]Do you really think [U]Tax money from drugs > Health costs because of drugs[/U] ? [/QUOTE]
MUCH higher. Weed is nearly harmless. It's not hard to avoid overdoses of more dangerous drugs, either.
[QUOTE=Maucer;20275625]Yep! I don't know the right people. And thats the thing.
There aren't many dealers here -> Dealers are older than kids and don't generally spend time with them -> Drugs aren't easy to get.[/QUOTE]
You can't make those false assumptions just for the sake of your argument.
[QUOTE=OvB;20275161]Do you know what the Prohibition was? And the effects it had on crime rates? It was pretty much the main cause of increasing mafia violence. Not to mention all the bootlegging and moonshiners. It also gave birth to NASCAR. Yeah alcohol will never be banned.[/QUOTE]
I know that, this is all theoretical, just like these posts about free drugs and rainbows.
[QUOTE=KaIibos;20275675]Everything you just said proves to me,
beyond the shadow of a doubt,
that you have no idea,
what you're talking about.[/QUOTE]
You're a poet! :neckbeard:
[QUOTE=Maucer;20275625]Do you really think [U]Tax money from drugs > Health costs because of drugs[/U] ?
Yep! I don't know the right people. And thats the thing.
There aren't many dealers here -> Dealers are older than kids and don't generally spend time with them -> Drugs aren't easy to get.[/QUOTE]
Yes I do. Do you realise how much it costs to keep somebody imprisoned for several years for growing weed? Obviously not.
I know several dealers younger than me (I'm 18) and can, as far as I am aware, get coke, lsd, ketamine and weed. I could be forgetting several but the point is, drugs are widely/easily available, your argument is null based on the fact that [b]you[/b] can't get [b]shit[/b].
[QUOTE=franz;20275549]You don't know about it because you've never tried finding drugs. It's fairly easy (and safe) to find drugs in most cities and suburbs.[/QUOTE]
The drugs that move at the streets are really unreliable. The volume of the actual pure drug varies alot. And no its not easy for all to find drugs.
[QUOTE=franz;20275549]You're wrong. I don't get why so many people believe there would be an armageddon.[I] All drugs are already legal in some places[/I], and nothing of the sort happened.[/QUOTE]
Like where? Seriously I'm not saying that everyone would be total maniacs, but I've seen how badly you can get fucked up and what you may do.
[QUOTE=franz;20275549]Non-violent drug users wouldn't go to jail. Sending people to jail simply for the possession of drugs has wasted TONS of money.[/QUOTE]
And five times the amount of non-violent drug users would be send to jail because of the violence...
[QUOTE=Maucer;20275339]That's fucking idiotic. First of all its [B]not easy[/B] nor safe (at least not in the most parts of the world) to find a dealer. I dont know a single dealer in my town and I know lots of people. I could probably find more than 100 18/21 year olds who would be willing to buy some alcohol for free or if I throw them a few euroes.
If drugs were legal and regulated, people wouldn't follow the regulations, thousands of people would overdose, people would be able to work and anyone would be able to get drugs. They would be much cheaper too, as most of the price builds up when they are smuggled across the border.
Tell me one, just ONE big benefit that would happen if drugs were legalized.
Erm I don't know where you live but without lying I could find 100 people whod get me a box of beer or a bottle of vodka for 4€. Most of the time my friends don't ask anything, but I give them a few euros. I do this every few weekends and I've done for more than 1.5 years. I'm 16 at the moment.[/QUOTE]
Ummmm, are you somehow instigating that by making drugs illegal people follow the "regulations" (wtf?) of use? First of all, there are no regulations of use with obviously illegal drugs. Second of all, people already do and will continue to overdose on drugs, legal or not. I don't see what drugs being legal have to do with people overdosing on them. At all. You're not making any sense.
My mate grew up with his dealers, so I'm pretty much sorted. Not all dealers are bad people.
Magic mushrooms don't even have a very good reason for being illegal.
All they have in them is mush and room, they're already cheap and you could find them in the forest on a nature hike.
Marijuana (or Cannabis, more correct term) is just a background drug and does a fraction damage that any cigarette does.
I cant imagine drugs from a legal shop being any exciting at all, id imagine it'd be like taking Salvia; it doesn't do anything.
[QUOTE=Maucer;20275780]The drugs that move at the streets are really unreliable.[/QUOTE]
What?
[QUOTE=Maucer;20275780]The volume of the actual pure drug varies alot.[/QUOTE]
Not really. Dealers tend not to water their product down because it usually leads to decreased profits and lost customers. (I assume that's what you're referring to, correct me if I'm wrong)
[QUOTE=Maucer;20275780]And no its not easy for all to find drugs.[/QUOTE]
Yes it is you just have to take ten minutes to actually look
[QUOTE=Maucer;20275780]And five times the amount of non-violent drug users would be send to jail because of the violence...[/QUOTE]
Wait, wait, what??
[QUOTE=ac9s39;20275775]Yes I do. Do you realise how much it costs to keep somebody imprisoned for several years for growing weed? Obviously not.[/quote]
Around 25 k dollars. Do you realize how the amount of violence, accidents, prisoners and other society problems would increase if heroin would be as common as alcohol?
[quote]I know several dealers younger than me (I'm 18) and can, as far as I am aware, get coke, lsd, ketamine and weed. I could be forgetting several but the point is, drugs are widely/easily available, your argument is null based on the fact that [b]you[/b] can't get shit.[/QUOTE]
Things are different there. Even weed is really hard to get in my town, trust me.
Im not saying that I'm an expert, in a fact I don't know much. But I'm sure the benefits would be a fraction compared to the harms
Drug users are like black people before the slavery ended, they got no rights. (And seriously, if you take this as being racist go look up a history book)
[QUOTE=Maucer;20275780]The drugs that move at the streets are really unreliable. The volume of the actual pure drug varies alot. And no its not easy for all to find drugs.
Like where? Seriously I'm not saying that everyone would be total maniacs, but I've seen how badly you can get fucked up and what you may do.
And five times the amount of non-violent drug users would be send to jail because of the violence...[/QUOTE]
How in the fuck can you say any of that when you can't get any drugs? Your argument is complete bs,
[QUOTE=Maucer;20275780]The drugs that move at the streets are really unreliable. The volume of the actual pure drug varies alot. And no its not easy for all to find drugs.[/QUOTE]
You have no experience with drugs. You can't just pull your arguments out of your ass.
[QUOTE=Maucer;20275780]Like where? [/QUOTE]
Mexico.
[QUOTE=Maucer;20275780]And five times the amount of non-violent drug users would be send to jail because of the violence...[/QUOTE]
Again, ALCOHOL. Cocaine, meth, and PCP are the only other drugs that can promote aggression, and they aren't nearly as popular because people know that.
[QUOTE=borisvdb;20275860]Magic mushrooms don't even have a very good reason for being illegal.
All they have in them is mush and room, they're already cheap and you could find them in the forest on a nature hike.
Marijuana (or Cannabis, more correct term) is just a background drug and does a fraction damage that any cigarette does.
I cant imagine drugs from a legal shop being any exciting at all, id imagine it'd be like taking Salvia; it doesn't do anything.[/QUOTE]
Nah Salvia when actually done properly and not buying the fake stuff is like a weaker form of LSD. You honestly trip balls for 10 - 15 minutes.
[QUOTE=Maucer;20275871]Around 25 k dollars. Do you realize how the amount of violence, accidents, prisoners and other society problems would increase if heroin would be as common as alcohol?
Things are different there. Even weed is really hard to get in my town, trust me.[/QUOTE]
Heroin would never become as popular as alcohol. If it were, the majority of people would be walking skags.
[QUOTE=Maucer;20275871]Around 25 k dollars. Do you realize how the amount of violence, accidents, prisoners and other society problems would increase if heroin would be as common as alcohol?[/QUOTE]
Do you really think heroin would be that popular just because it became legal? That people would all of a sudden drop the social stigmas so deeply rooted in their brains?
[QUOTE=Maucer;20275871]Around 25 k dollars. Do you realize how the amount of violence, accidents, prisoners and other society problems would increase if heroin would be as common as alcohol?
Things are different there. Even weed is really hard to get in my town, trust me.
Im not saying that I'm an expert, in a fact I don't know much. But I'm sure the benefits would be a fraction compared to the harms[/QUOTE]
Where do you live?
[QUOTE=borisvdb;20275860]
I cant imagine drugs from a legal shop being any exciting at all, id imagine it'd be like taking Salvia; it doesn't do anything.[/QUOTE]
Salvia is extremely potent, are you sure you did it right? It doesn't work on everybody, but Head shops do have a lot of 'working' drugs.
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