[QUOTE=Parakon;20279729]It just doesn't make sense, unless his friends and himself were already morons, nearly all my friends smoke the dope, I just don't see how it could possibly interfere, you smoke it, you're high, you eat munchies and play video games, unless somewhere in there someone throws a lamp for no reason I don't get what could possibly go wrong.
It begs the question of how intelligent his crew was beforehand.[/QUOTE]
That's because you don't have anyone who doesn't smoke weed to compare to.
Yeah you eat munchies and play video games and don't go outside and socialize with other people and basically don't do shit. You're a zombie doing nothing productive for hours.
Work ethic is fucked when you're high. Everyone is lazy as shit and the only reason you move is to eat.
People back in the colonial times didn't smoke weed and you know what? Those fuckers built their own houses. We kicked ass back then and took names. Now we sit around getting high and bitching about how hard it is to get high because it isn't legal.
Legalize weed, tax the living fuck out of it.
Hippies are happy, politicians are happy, bankers are happy, world is happy. Everyone is stoned.
[QUOTE=yodafart9;20280517]That's because you don't have anyone who doesn't smoke weed to compare to.
Yeah you eat munchies and play video games and don't go outside and socialize with other people and basically don't do shit. You're a zombie doing nothing productive for hours.
Work ethic is fucked when you're high. Everyone is lazy as shit and the only reason you move is to eat.
People back in the colonial times didn't smoke weed and you know what? Those fuckers built their own houses. We kicked ass back then and took names. Now we sit around getting high and bitching about how hard it is to get high because it isn't legal.[/QUOTE]
Uh, where are you getting all this? I know plenty of people who don't smoke it, I do go outside and socialize with other people, high or not, and sometimes I can be way more productive when i'm high, I can sit and program games for hours if I'm high simply because I focus on it, it's increasingly boring if i'm not, that doesn't mean I do that all the time though.
We do a lot of things differently today than we did back then, that isn't because of weed and furthermore no one's bitching about it being hard to get high, because it isn't, it's easy as balls INFACT I got I text today from a guy a barely talk to telling me he'd drive to my house if I wanted to buy some weed.
Those comments just convinced me that you don't know what you're talking about and you probably messed up your own relationships, using weed as a scapegoat so you don't have to own up to your own deeds, but now i'm assuming things.
[QUOTE=yodafart9;20280517]Work ethic is fucked when you're high.[/QUOTE]
hurr because the only time anyone ever smokes weed is when they need to be working. most people do it when they know they're free to do what they want.
[QUOTE=evilking1;20274489]
If it were up to me I'd ban alcohol for the huge social problems it creates.[/QUOTE]
Someone hasn't been paying much attention in History.
The organized crime that stems from prohibition is far more damaging than regulated sale of alcohol.
[QUOTE=rathat48;20274498]Yes it is. That's what the FDA is for.[/QUOTE]
The FDA protects people from unwittingly putting something into their bodies by requiring companies to list ingredients and risks. If drug manufacturers are upfront about the risks of their products (like cigarette packages), drugs should be legalized.
All drugs should be legal and heavily taxed.
[QUOTE=yodafart9;20280517]That's because you don't have anyone who doesn't smoke weed to compare to.
[B]Yeah you eat munchies and play video games and don't go outside and socialize with other people and basically don't do shit. You're a zombie doing nothing productive for hours.[/B]
Work ethic is fucked when you're high. Everyone is lazy as shit and the only reason you move is to eat.
People back in the colonial times didn't smoke weed and you know what? Those fuckers built their own houses. We kicked ass back then and took names. Now we sit around getting high and bitching about how hard it is to get high because it isn't legal.[/QUOTE]
I do this without weed. Stop making connections where there are none.
[QUOTE=laserpanda;20281155]Someone hasn't been paying much attention in History.
The organized crime that stems from prohibition is far more damaging than regulated sale of alcohol.[/QUOTE]
I know it creates huge problems, but this thread with all the "drugs are good mkay" is just theoretical like being able to ban it.
[QUOTE=yodafart9;20278993]
Fuck you people who think weed should be legalized. That isn't going to help anything.[/QUOTE]
So continuing to arrest non-violent's will? Good call.
[QUOTE=Parakon;20280416]you do know people smoke crystal meth already, right?[/QUOTE]
Yeah and having everyone smoke it will just make it alright :D!!?!?!?!?
Crystal Meth has horrible implications, some of which lead to increased crime.
[QUOTE=MelonGuy;20284197]Yeah and having everyone smoke it will just make it alright :D!!?!?!?!?
Crystal Meth has horrible implications, some of which lead to increased crime.[/QUOTE]
Ok so your argument here is once something becomes legal everyone immediately runs out of their house cash in hand and buys it, forgetting all previous knowledge they have on the now legal substance? ok
[QUOTE=Parakon;20284656]Ok so your argument here is once something becomes legal everyone immediately runs out of their house cash in hand and buys it, forgetting all previous knowledge they have on the now legal substance? ok[/QUOTE]
In america?
Yes
Keep smoking your weed then. I don't mind. Keep throwing your hard earned money away. (Probably your parents hard earned money) Keep spending it on getting high as a kite. That just means less competition for me because you'll be too busy stoned off your ass to get a job.
Also I would love to see you or anyone do anything vaguely productive on weed. I would just love to.
[QUOTE=Parakon;20284656]Ok so your argument here is once something becomes legal everyone immediately runs out of their house cash in hand and buys it, forgetting all previous knowledge they have on the now legal substance? ok[/QUOTE]
If ecstasy became legal, I'd go buy it..
[QUOTE=yodafart9;20284766]In america?
Yes
Keep smoking your weed then. I don't mind. Keep throwing your hard earned money away. (Probably your parents hard earned money) Keep spending it on getting high as a kite. That just means less competition for me because you'll be too busy stoned off your ass to get a job.
Also I would love to see you or anyone do anything vaguely productive on weed. I would just love to.[/QUOTE]
I'll say this. You're a moron. I smoke weed, and I have a 3.4 GPA(I'm lazy naturally). The fact you think weed and a bad life are connected is beyond idiotic. I'll bold this for your idiotic ass. [b]Drugs are never the problem. It's the fuck wit who can't control things that's the problem. Succesful people can, and probably do, do drugs regularly and are able to manage it. Idiots are idiots and will fuck up regardless of whether drugs are involved or not.[/b] You just sound like a fucking loser who lost his friends, and your scapegoating something else for your problems.
I do drugs on a regular basis, do well in school, maintain a strong social life, work when I can, have a small band and movie thing going on for me. When I work, I fucking work. You can talk all the shit you want, but you just look like an idiot. There are no rules when it comes to this shit, if an idiot does drugs, he's still going to be an idiot and a fuck up. If someone normal, and useful does drugs, chances are, he's still going to be normal and useful.
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[QUOTE=Eluveitie;20284856]If ecstasy became legal, I'd go buy it..[/QUOTE]
Because it's so hard to buy Ecstasy as it is. I can call 5 different people, and have it delivered now. It's almost 5, and I can still get it delivered. Ecstasy also isn't a dangerous drug. It's very hard to die on it if you're not a fucking idiot.
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For the sake of the thread, let me give a quick run down on the issue with your ignorance about drugs.
Drugs, if legalized would be regulated similar to alcohol with age limits, certain shops dedicated to selling it, and possibly government enforced limits. This would prevent children from buying drugs, or at least make it damn hard. When I was 14, I could get any illegal drug, and I often did a number at that age too, but I couldn't get beer or alcohol unless I stole it from my parents. I didn't do that often, and thus I relied mostly on illegal drugs. I still managed to do well enough in school to go to university, and be able to do just about anything I want, so did my friends who also did as many, if not more drugs than me save from the few who were already idiots without drugs. If drugs were legalized, it would be much harder for things like that to happen. If drugs were legalized, it would be extremely profitable. Not to mention, it would be much better to start educating people on drugs rather than just saying "No, drugs are bad, you smoke weed you die!" bullshit like that is why a lot of kids start to do drugs. If you educate kids on why they're bad fewer kids would do them, if you give people the choice, I doubt many would do drugs except for the ones that know how to control their shit.
The other issue a lot of people bring up is the legal problems behind violence. You don't seem to understand that drugs do not cause violence. Drugs are not in control of you. You are. I've been high on just about every drug under the sun. I know countless people who have as well. Not one of us have ever lost our cool. [b]The people that do lose their shit on drugs are naturally [i]idiots[/i] anyway.[/b] Why do you want to persecute them for being on drugs, and then committing a crime? That crime could have, and probably would have occurred anyways do the fact that an idiot committed it, why he was high matters is beyond the scope of the law.
I can name 4 drugs that make you violent, and they only make you violent if you are naturally prone to bursts of anger, or violence. In this case, those four in terms of effectiveness in creating anger are 1. Alcohol. 2. PCP 3. Meth 4. Cocaine. No drug is better at causing fits of rage than alcohol. No drug is behind more sexually aggressive crimes, and no drug is behind more murders. You might just say that's because the other drugs are harder to get, but then, you'd be wrong again as we previously discussed. Not to mention, out of those 4, alcohol is not terribly expensive.
As for health benefits under a system like the NHS, or any national health care system. The brilliant part about drugs being legalized would be the huge tax revenue that it would bring. The cost of producing the drugs would be covered, the excess could be funneled directly towards the health care system. Then, not to mention, health problems that are self inflicted are already covered. Does it not cover suicide attempts, accidents, smoking, bad diets, everything? If you want to bring that argument down, you have to establish a perfect baseline for the argument to start on. You can't assume that all the problems would be related to the drugs, so why would you not start saying "Oh no, you're slightly overweight, you suffer from asthma and a bad heart, but those are your problems for not taking perfect care of yourself over the years" and denying them coverage under it too? So, if the costs are covered, and other heath issues that are as idiotic to talk down are covered, what's the issue? There is none to my knowledge.
Educating people about drugs would solve every fucking problem here, but you all probably read "Above the Influence" and take that shit as fact. It's a fact every drug has downsides, that's not up for debate, it's a fact every drug has problems, costs, and what not, but education would over come that quite easily.
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Hopefully this will shut you ignorant ones up.
Deregulation is almost always a positive thing in our economy.
Something as harmless as weed should be perfectly legal while alcohol and tobacco start getting phased out. Not necessarily outlawed, but alcohol especially needs to be put further out of reach of society. I have never in my life seen anyone get any positive effects from alcohol, and I myself was an alcoholic for 3 years.
[QUOTE=FINLEY;20275208]Legal highs are a waste of money. The place near me sells salvia at ridiculous prices, it's cheaper to buy weed.[/QUOTE]
Are you seriously retarded en
ough to compare weed to salvia? They are two TOTALLY different substances.
[QUOTE=Levakama;20285339]Are you seriously retarded en
ough to compare weed to salvia? They are two TOTALLY different substances.[/QUOTE]
And salvia at lower concentrations seems nearly identical to all the weed I've ever smoked.
Except it tastes horrible and hits way too harsh compared to weed.
[QUOTE=Aman V;20275912]Nah Salvia when actually done properly and not buying the fake stuff is like a weaker form of LSD. You honestly trip balls for 10 - 15 minutes.[/QUOTE]
More like stronger .If you do it t
he proper way it takes around 2 hours and you usually dont experience ego loss on LSD unlike salvia
[QUOTE=DrMortician;20285415]And salvia at lower concentrations seems nearly identical to all the weed I've ever smoked.
Except it tastes horrible and hits way too harsh compared to weed.[/QUOTE]
There really nothing alike. Salvia is an intense hallucinogen basically changing/warping your reality for a solid 15 minutes into something totally unbelievable.
Weed makes you sit and eat food. Sometimes you'll do something cool or productive, but most of the time... It's just great to relax. Sometimes you'll draw or write something really cool. Most of the time you just relax.
Salvia isn't good for relaxing... At all... Ever..
[QUOTE=DrMortician;20285415]And salvia at lower concentrations seems nearly identical to all the weed I've ever smoked.
Except it tastes horrible and hits way too harsh compared to weed.[/QUOTE]
Thats because that is not how you do it
[QUOTE=Levakama;20285513]More like stronger .If you do it t
he proper way it takes around 2 hours and you usually dont experience ego loss on LSD unlike salvia[/QUOTE]
If anything, you experience more self esteem issues on LSD. Salvias a rather short trip all in all unless you begin taking freakish amounts of it which would create almost mind fracturing events.
That store looks like an eyesore
[QUOTE=Cidem;20285670]That store looks like an eyesore[/QUOTE]
The shoppers have an eyesore too, pupils dilated and bloodshot eyes...
[QUOTE=evilking1;20285690]The shoppers have an eyesore too, pupils dilated and bloodshot eyes...[/QUOTE]
Oh, You!
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;20285546]If anything, you experience more self esteem issues on LSD. Salvias a rather short trip all in all unless you begin taking freakish amounts of it which would create almost mind fracturing events.[/QUOTE]
Who is talking about self esteem issues?
[QUOTE=Levakama;20287308]Who is talking about self esteem issues?[/QUOTE]
You said ego, ego and self esteem are closely related ideas.
[QUOTE=franz;20274345]I think all drugs should be legal. It isn't the government's job to control what we put in our bodies.[/QUOTE]
hey people like you is why weed is ilegal
dont piss of the gov
smoking weed makes you instantly cool and it's the only reason I do it :frogc00l:
I don't care what people do, as long as they're responsible about it, and know their limits.
I know everyone says they have it all under control, but they don't. Kids are retarded.
I'm fine with legal drugs, but with an age limit, like 18 and up only.
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