"All but..." and how no one has any idea what it actually means!
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You should listen to my friend, he fucks up this kind of shit all the time.
He says "could care less" and "YOU GOTTA BE SERIOUS!" (When he's trying to say "you got to be kidding")
[QUOTE=Bomimo;22278460]so have all the nordic languages, Finnish and Icelandic being the most difficult. ofcourse one should be smart enough to figure out that whoever conducted this investigation(?) is very likely to be a highly educated American or Brit with above basic flair for the 5 mainstream languages which relate to almost all other languages in the 1st world than the Nordic.
We're talking English, French, Spanish, German. these guys have then gone and analyzed many other languages grammatical and verbal difficulty and found that the Nordic languages were the most complicated vocabularies and retardedly difficult to pronounce. ofcourse, one could wonter how learning Chinese or Ga/Twi (west african) is any easier?
Life as a dane is fantastic... i can easily comprehend Norwegian and Auld norse (yeah, it's retarded wanting to understand that) i can extract basic meaning of Faeroysk and Icelandic. Finnish is a mess to me and Swedish sounds like japanese, i understand it very well, but their pressurisation and pronounciation just makes me think of some idiotic Honorbound Sensei.... it makes me sick. (nah, svensk er bra, det lydder bare some det rene hakkedak).
Bomimo's threads... An anonymous Dane with retarded grammar sorting out the English language for the natives. I don't think it will be popular, but should i attempt a thread on "'ve=/= of" and "Aint no =/= sense"? i feel more like leaving it be.[/QUOTE]
There's not really any common error you can make a thread about that hasn't already had one.
[QUOTE=ThePuska;22278348]I don't know of an authority that you could call "official" in this matter.
I'm not sure what you're referring to, but having some knowledge about languages is not elitism.
fuck 2000 posts next one better be good[/QUOTE]
You are a gold member atleast in an hour
They're saying that it most likely is dead, but they don't want to be definitive in case they're wrong. "All but..." in this case means it's been delayed, it's encountered logistical difficulties, the director doesn't want to do it, everything that could kill a movie has happened but it's still not officially canceled. Taking all those other things in to consideration makes their statement accurate.
[QUOTE=Drainwater;22279079]They're saying that it most likely is dead, but they don't want to be definitive in case they're wrong. "All but..." in this case means it's been delayed, it's encountered logistical difficulties, the director doesn't want to do it, everything that could kill a movie has happened but it's still not officially canceled. Taking all those other things in to consideration makes their statement accurate.[/QUOTE]
I'm not saying they're wrong. The movie is far from dead, pre-production is almost done, they just need another director now and a date to start filming. what they're saying all but dead about is his chances of returning which is actually all but existent... it's very dead. they used the term wrong and it just pushed me over the line after many years of ignoring this lingual mistake.
Notice how i keep spelling liguistic differently? i have no idea how to spell it and i'm using it wrong. i may fix that whenever...
[QUOTE=markg06;22277156]OP should've gone after the people that think of is the same as 've since I see that and people saying they could care less when they mean couldn't.[/QUOTE]
thisthisthisthisthis
seeing "should of" makes me want to do bad things to baby seals
oh and OP, i agree with you too... there's wayy too many asshats who use that but don't know what it means just so they can sound smart, and it's annoying as hell
This article is all but dumb. :smug:
[QUOTE=Bomimo;22279381]I'm not saying they're wrong. The movie is far from dead, pre-production is almost done, they just need another director now and a date to start filming. what they're saying all but dead about is his chances of returning which is actually all but existent... it's very dead. they used the term wrong and it just pushed me over the line after many years of ignoring this lingual mistake.
Notice how i keep spelling liguistic differently? i have no idea how to spell it and i'm using it wrong. i may fix that whenever...[/QUOTE]
Whoops that's what I get for skimming your quote of the article. Kind of hard to tell from it though, did he say flat out that he's not returning? If he didn't say it, "you must acquit" :smile:. If he did though, then you're absolutely right.
[QUOTE=Drainwater;22280011]Whoops that's what I get for skimming your quote of the article. Kind of hard to tell from it though, did he say flat out that he's not returning? If he didn't say it, "you must acquit" :smile:. If he did though, then you're absolutely right.[/QUOTE]
he did... it's in the rest, i just didn't add it as source...
[url]http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/all_but[/url]
I suggest you read this.
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[QUOTE=Canned Beans;22280459][URL]http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/all_but[/URL]
I suggest you read this.[/QUOTE]
yes, that's the popular use... it is also incorrect. you'd fail a test for using it that way if your teacher was properly educated.
[QUOTE=Bomimo;22280941]yes, that's the popular use... it is also incorrect. you'd fail a test for using it that way if your teacher was properly educated.[/QUOTE]
We're not doing a test though so who gives a shit. As long as the meaning is understood then it doesn't really matter, after all langauge evolves to have different meanings over time.
[QUOTE=Bomimo;22280941]yes, that's the popular use... it is also incorrect. you'd fail a test for using it that way if your teacher was properly educated.[/QUOTE]
You do realise that language can and does evolve over time?
As more and more people begin to use that as the 'proper' way to use the term, then it's eventually going to be accepted as one of the proper ways to use the term. Also, you keep repeating yourself and saying how you would fail a test if you used it in that way, but we aren't sitting a test so it doesn't matter because everyone understands what the person who's using it is trying to convey.
[QUOTE=Bomimo;22280941]yes, that's the popular use... it is also incorrect. you'd fail a test for using it that way if your teacher was properly educated.[/QUOTE]
But a language isn't rigid like that. It changes all the time, it evolves naturally.
Any language has at least a dozen inconsistencies that came to be this way and this is one of them.
The only people that would gripe at you about the usage of "all but" are college professors and people trying desperately hard to find a fault in your sentence structure.
It's too minor of a grammatical oversight to care about in such informal settings.
it's actually a big deal since it can cause major misunderstandings, unlike the "ain't no" and "should of" thing, which is just pure retardation. this is about 50 mill people who don't have a clue about their own language and what a term means.[QUOTE=Callius;22280989]We're not doing a test though so who gives a shit. As long as the meaning is understood then it doesn't really matter, after all langauge evolves to have different meanings over time.[/QUOTE]
well, there's the problem... the rest of the world understand it as "everything else" since that is what we're taught and it is what we would say in our own language in the relevant sentences. so, it's just you who get this. besides, the understanding doesn't change just because the meaning does. the term has a fixed meaning, throwing it 180 of what it is brews shitstorms.
so at least your officials and news reporters could stay with the international understanding instead of some New Yorker "rape the language" lingo, eh? fact is, it's bugging many more people than just me and it is a major flaw if you use the term that way.
it's equal of turning no into yes. it's been turned from positive to negative by a minority of the world while the rest of us understand the original meaning. who should adapt? it's much easier if the minority gets a grip and start having a clue about their own language.
[QUOTE=Bomimo;22281232]well, there's the problem... the rest of the world understand it as "everything else" since that is what we're taught and it is what we would say in our own language in the relevant sentences. so, it's just you who get this.
so at least your officials and news reporters could stay with the international understanding instead of some New Yorker "rape the language" lingo, eh? fact is, it's bugging many more people than just me and it is a major flaw if you use the term that way.
it's equal of turning no into yes. it's been turned from positive to negative to a minority of the world while the rest of us understand the original meaning. who should adapt? it's much easier if the minority gets a grip and start having a clue about their own language.[/QUOTE]
Nobody cares, seriously.
Languages change, the way the ''outside'' world percieves a language changes with it.
And speaking as one of the people from the outside world, I don't give a shit, nobody here does.
[QUOTE=Bomimo;22281232]people who don't have a clue about their own language and what a term means.[/QUOTE]
Please stop saying this.
"Everyone here is a retard, all but one"
Makes sense. Means all but 1 object or something/one is not a retard.
[QUOTE=Mlisen14;22277817]If I was so violently inclined I would murder the fuck out of anyone who says "I could care less".[/QUOTE]
This really annoys me
Heh I'd let it go...if you want to crusade for the "preservation of the English Language" take a look at this:
[url]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28938136/[/url]
This thread is all but good.
Like that, op?
I fucking hate when people do this. As well as "should of" and "I could care less".
"Anything but" is more applicable for your definition. "The prospect of him returning to this project is anything but dead" means he will most likely return to the project. The most common usage of "all but" in that sentence would mean that it's incredibly unlikely that he'll return to the project.
You need to remember that the "correct" usage of a language is however society uses and records it.
I ain't done nothing
I already knew what it meant, I can just never fit it into a regular sentence.
This thread is all but good
Actually the OP kinda makes a valid point. Quite strange, actually.
I was thinking about this recently actually. I thought that I must have been wrong.
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