[QUOTE=professional;17791659]No bro.
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sir, my small asian eyes cannot comprehend.
please elaborate
I like sprinters as long as they're somewhat intelligent. If they're just fragile and mindless, then it's not scary at all. I usually like shamblers.
ITT people have arguments with evidence from movies
I prefer slow zombies.
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;17791705]sir, my small asian eyes cannot comprehend.
please elaborate[/QUOTE]
Here you go:
[url]http://www.learnaboutguns.com/2008/11/15/the-difference-between-a-magazine-and-a-clip/[/url]
Depends how you define zombie. Died >> reanimated is a slow zombie.
Fasties are more like infected, with rage like 28 days/weeks/months and so on, or a headcrab. Basically, something that takes over your human function, but with 100% control, able to run and so on.
I'm a slow zombie man.
They are more scary becuase even thou they are slow, they will find you and they will kill you.
They don't need to run like a tiger to get you.
Slow zombies are the only REAL zombies becuase they are the living dead most mordern films they are just infected, a real zombie goes like this.
Bitten = infected = death = reainimation = zombie.
I LIEK SLOW ZOMBIES
:v:
What the fuck is scary about something you can just run away from?
If I had to go up against them in reality: I'd rather slow zombies. I could outwalk them any day (I guess it helps that I have long legs and generally walk a lot faster than most people, too).
For movies I prefer fast zombies. More of a fear-factor involved when it'll pursue you as fast as a fucking Olympic athlete in order to rip your face off or something.
[QUOTE=madmanmad;17791928]I'm a slow zombie man.
They are more scary becuase even thou they are slow, they will find you and they will kill you.
They don't need to run like a tiger to get you.
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Or... not
How the fuck are they going to "find you" when you're nowhere near them? Seriously if a guy was being followed by some shamblers out in the middle of a street, he'd have but to go for a jog and within 9 minutes or so he'd be a good 2 kilometers out from the zombies.
I've always hated the slow zombies. They can survive after a fuck-ton of bullets hit them, which doesn't make sense to me. If the zombie was it's own separate life form, then okay, but they're not. They have the same anatomy of a human. You say they're zombies, and that obviously a bullet in the leg won't slow them down since they don't care about pain. Okay sure that's true. But it's going to fuck up all of their movements when a joint gets a bullet through it. In the amount of bullets you'd waste on a "classic slow zombie" you would have been able to tear them in half with the bullet holes alone. I just don't like the idea that because the MIND of the human mutates, the body somehow becomes excessively strong. It's still a human body, not some alien bullshit monster.
I personally think sprinters have a greater fear level. Games like L4D don't work with the fear of a sprinter because there's all sorts of audio cues and shit and you always know what's going to happen. The only time you become afraid of classic zombies is when you're absolutely surrounded, which usually doesn't happen since they're SLOW. If you see a silhouette of a figure in the distance, what will make you more concerned, a slow shambling dark figure, or something that looks like it's coming to kick your ass at mach 2?
[QUOTE=LiquidNazgul;17786632]28 Days Later is no more realistic---a virus cannot work through a system that fast. See, there's a little something called an incubation period. You might argue that the Rage virus wouldn't need an incubation period...well, there you go, the Rage virus is [i]magic[/i].
Sprinters in general are just as unrealistic as shamblers. There is no way something can run for that long without getting tired.
Both can happen. Even though yes, a virus that actually reanimates the dead is improbable. Improbable, but not impossible.[/QUOTE]
I'm just talking about people acting like wild rabid animals. I haven't said anything about incubation time but yes I doubt it would take 20 seconds to get infected. More like few hours (if this is possible). And I haven't said they can run for 24/7 that's fucking magic too. Okay maybe 28 days later was a bad example.
[QUOTE=LiquidNazgul;17786632]
Are you really that thick-headed? I'm not just talking about a zombie apocalypse, I'm talking about general disasters.
Just watch the first two minutes of this video:
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VG2aJyIFrA&feature=player_embedded]The Day After (Attack Segment)[/url]
Hell, they don't even have to be disasters:
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeSgBL7gpAk&feature=player_embedded]Black Friday Stampede[/url]
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMKjsGpdYY8&feature=player_embedded]PS3 Mob[/url]
This is how people act when they are [b][u]SHOPPING[/b][/u]. You think it will be any better when they are trying to get food, ammo, guns during a national emergency?
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4SHESFJJwA&feature=player_embedded]Canoe Race Riots[/url]
That's rioting because of canoe racing. Tell me, how much riots or chaos is going to happen when the masses have been told of a virus that reanimates the dead?
And don't get me started on the 1992 L.A. riots. You know, the ones that was caused by a single police video showing police brutality?
THAT'S what I mean by our collective stupidity.[/QUOTE]
Sure people are stupid but the sentence you made earlier made you look like you've been to zombie apocalypse already. You can only speculate what's gonna happen, although you can assume some scenarios are more probable than others.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;17779799]You do not realize the true killing power of Shamblers, watch either the original Dawn of the Dead or Day of the Dead to realize just how devastating they are.
I'd be more scared of a zombie that doesn't stop, ever, and can only be killed by a headshot (you have no idea how hard it is to shoot something in the head from a safe distance, especially without a scope.)[/QUOTE]
Explosive
If it can blow apart a body it can destroy the head
Personally I prefer fast zombies, seeing as they are more realistic and are usually are from a virus of some sort. Personally I think the most realistic way of action for any type of zombie-like creature to arise is from a parasite. I know these won't technically be "zombies" since they are not the living dead, but if a parasite arises that can take control of the organism it is leeching off of then we are in for a big problem.
Slow zombies can be scary too, seeing is if you are surrounded you are basically fucked. When you think about it these are not the most practical zombies that would happen if a zombie outbreak where to happen but it could be possible.
From what I have read in this thread people sure are cocky if a zombie outbreak where to happen
[quote] Well shamblers can be obliterated with a car, and with that car you can make a clean get away, as well.
If a zombie invasion ever happens I'm going for a car.
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People also think that just one bullet would kill a fast zombie, it would injure it but not immediately kill. People think that if a zombie outbreak where to happen they would be god, you would not. I am going to take about 70% of facepunch being fat and out of shape. You cannot just run from zombies forever, you would tire out. Your aim would not be godlike either, you are likely to miss a few shots due to fear, Think about it if you have some decaying slow mother fucker coming at you and his jaw is hanging by his skin and he was missing a arm you would be scared. Same with fasties, if you god one of those guys charging towards you. You most likely won't be able to shoot it due to it sprinting at you.
Also people need to take in account food as well, sure hiding out in your basement may work for a while but what happens if you are dehydrated or are starving. You need to eat and drink at some point! So in all reality starvation will be a factor to human deaths. There are bound to be people that go insane from the pressure of a outbreak. So therefore people would also be killing other people.
The best course of action in my opinion would to be like nomads. To travel to a new location and maybe stay there for a week, then move on. Taking supplies that you find at that location with you.
I am also pretty sure not everyone has a gun in their house, so think about what you would use for a weapon other than a trusty handgun or rifle. Sure you may have a weapon and you are thinking "whatever I can skip this part" but think about it, that gun isn't going to serve too well when you run out of ammo. So take into account a crowbar or axe when confronting a zombie if you have no weapon and/or ammo.
Now I know what you are thinking now "jesus when is this post going to end?" well this is the last paragraph so just hang in there. Now one of the best courses of action would to stay in a group. This may sound inhumane but it is better for your buddy to take the fall from a zombie than you. It is also better to join a group because for all you know they may have weapons, and that would benefit you in the way of firepower.
[QUOTE=Doctor-Mask;17792288]*lots of text*[/QUOTE]
LIES. FPers have played l4d tons of times on hardest difficulty, you think they won't survive?
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[QUOTE=lolwutdude;17790832]Horde of fast monstrosities that'll always catch up with you because they have absolutely no fatigue and is smart enough to climb over obstacles?
I'd rather commit shot to the head rather than run.
Let me give you a scenario with 10 zombies and being armed with a pistol.
Scenario 1: Shamblers
Your armed with a pistol and enough clip to kill all ten of them. Because they are slow and retarded, all you have to do is take careful aim and fire 10 times while the gap between you and them is wide, for them, it'll take a while to reach you.
Hell if you had a fence, it might even be easier because they're too slow and dumb to climb over it.
Boom headshot, they're dead. And you survived. Good game.
Scenario 2: New Generation
Your armed with a pistol and enough to kill all ten of them. Too bad you probably waste half your shot. These zombies not know fatigue or pain, deadly combination. You keep shooting, but through your ironsight, all you see is blur as they sprint toward you. The gap between you and them is non-nonexistent, they're fast enough to get Usain Bolt a bronze medal instead.
You run and climb over a fence. You sigh in relief because you probably think your safe now. Wrong, these fast motherfuckers climb over and pounce toward you. If they were bit slower, you probably maneuver your way out. But you can't, these hands give blowjob champions run for their money as they claw at your face till it's noting but shreds of flesh. YOUR DEAD.
Good game.[/QUOTE]
Except the difference being in zombie media that you never just have 10 slow zombies, that defeats the point. Of course there's little scare factor when there's only 10. The point of the slow zombie is to show the theme of the mob mentality. Guess what you need for mob mentality. Their scare comes from numbers, not from their individual ability.
The "slow and stupid" argument is the stupidest goddamn argument in existence because you're not actually seeing the fucking point of zombie media. Yes, they're slow and stupid.
One slow and stupid motherfucker won't harm you.
A thousand that surround you on all sides have a pretty good chance of doing it.
THAT'S THE POINT
STRENGTH IN NUMBERS, THE SENSE OF HOPELESSNESS
The screaming, relentless, raging zombie is better in many ways.
First, does a Cheetah limp like a tard to a Zebra or run like hell?
Also, the slower versions moan is to alert other zombies, wouldn't a scream alert much more? Fresh zombies would run as fast as the victim could but not stop, but use up muscle mass faster, slowing it down, and the scream would probably be ungodly.
The older, more decomposed zombies would be slower and have more of a moan, since they can't heal and they've been using their voice box up so much from screaming/running.
[QUOTE=LiquidNazgul;17783912]I would explode from awesome if the zombie apocalypse had both sprinters and shamblers: the best of both worlds. Huge hordes of shamblers and individual, but fast-moving sprinters.
Still like shamblers though.[/QUOTE]
Go play Half-Life 2 or GMod and spawn both Fast zombies and Zombines.
Fast zombies are scarier but they lack all impressions of being zombies, they are more like monsters.
Slow zombies are how a zombie should be, they are not scary, but they give off the right atmosphere and when you first are surrounded by them then you really are fucked because they go in big slow groups.
[QUOTE=Melkor;17778785]I personally prefer the old school slow zombies.[/QUOTE]
Indeed, I prefer to keep the chocolate covered cheerios [i]inside[/i] my anus.
In movies and games, I think fast zombies take the cake. Just last night I was watching the Night of the Living Dead remake and I was laughing my ass off at how Ben was just wrestling the zombies and throwing them around everywhere in the middle of a field. The Dawn of the Dead remake was on a little while before that and I nearly shit myself every time that zombie with a missing arm sprints like an Olympic athlete at the guys who are trying to get in the door, all while taking several shots in the chest without even blinking.
Another point to make, how do you know you won't just end up being a zombie? Not everyone can be a survivor, or there wouldn't actually be a zombie apocalypse (or any zombies at all for that matter).
[QUOTE=dryer-lint;17779060]Max Brooks never prepared me for fast zombies. :tinfoil:[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=LittleDogX;17792006]I've always hated the slow zombies. They can survive after a fuck-ton of bullets hit them, which doesn't make sense to me. If the zombie was it's own separate life form, then okay, but they're not. They have the same anatomy of a human. You say they're zombies, and that obviously a bullet in the leg won't slow them down since they don't care about pain. Okay sure that's true. But it's going to fuck up all of their movements when a joint gets a bullet through it. In the amount of bullets you'd waste on a "classic slow zombie" you would have been able to tear them in half with the bullet holes alone. I just don't like the idea that because the MIND of the human mutates, the body somehow becomes excessively strong. It's still a human body, not some alien bullshit monster.
I personally think sprinters have a greater fear level. Games like L4D don't work with the fear of a sprinter because there's all sorts of audio cues and shit and you always know what's going to happen. The only time you become afraid of classic zombies is when you're absolutely surrounded, which usually doesn't happen since they're SLOW. If you see a silhouette of a figure in the distance, what will make you more concerned, a slow shambling dark figure, or something that looks like it's coming to kick your ass at mach 2?[/QUOTE]
Shamblers are affected by your shots. If you take it's kneecap out it will most likley fall over. But it'll get back up. And they're not inhumanley strong, they just don't tire, so it can tear at your barricade for days on end until it gets in, tearing it's muscles as it does, they won't rebuild stronger though, they'll just wither away. Luckily, it summoned a few dozen friends with it's moaning. You may be lucky enough to fend them off, rebuild or move on, but all the time knowing, they're following you. You can run and run and run. Get in a little car and try to rambo a swarm, won't doa blind bit of good, the sound of the engine will attract more zombies and then what? Run some more? Righto, you hurry on, coming across a farmstead, you check the building, board up and wait. The zombies arrive and start to attack, moaning. Never stopping. The moaning will drive you insane, it's almost a garuntee.
For run'n'gun games like L4D (which I do love), sprinters take the cake. But can you imagine playing L4D without the Special Infected, the lack of high powered weponary like a conveniently placed autoshotgun and no crosshair. Now all you have are common infected, but they can't run, they might stumble over the bonnet of a car, they can't climb. You're stuck inside an apartment block, similar to the start of No Mercy knowing that eventually, you'll run out of food and water. You're looking at your fellow survivors, when the food goes, what do you do? Yeah. You're fucked because that swarm downstairs arn't going to go away on their own and going down there is suicide.
Fast zombies are the scariest.
The idea that they are as weak as normal people is thoughtless, these fuckers could run for fucking miles, the only thing that's keeping them running for a straight year is a collapsed lung and broken legs, to say the least.
Something about a zombie that can't catch up to me at a walking pace doesn't scare me. And even if they did catch me all they'd do is kill me pretty fast, they just go straight for the insides. A fast zombie however sprints at you slams you into the ground and starts to claw away at your body with tons of massive swings, much more painful.
Half-life 2 is a good example. You can't tell me you didn't shit yourself when those fast zombies jumped at you after you got the shotgun.
Well, obviously, a bunch of fast zombies would kill you way faster than a bunch of slow zombies.
Faster Ones are scarier, you cannot outrun them, and once they pounce, they will go ape shit on you, slow ones just kind of walk towards you, trip over then crawl, not very scary
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