@Nazgul: I will, say how much do they cost by the way. If it doesn't cost much, I'm thinking of buying the survival guide as well
@ BricknHead: While they're tearing it down, they're gonna have small holes in their forehead.
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;17805348]@Nazgul: I will, say how much do they cost by the way. If it doesn't cost much, I'm thinking of buying the survival guide as well
@ BricknHead: While they're tearing it down, they're gonna have small holes in their forehead.[/QUOTE]
Just bought World War Z after reading this thread. Paperback cost me 15 bucks with a Barnes and Noble membership card.
[QUOTE=LiquidNazgul;17805221]I highly suggest you read World War Z is all I'm going to say.
By the way, Shaun of the Dead was a comedy. You know, funny? Ha-ha?
Because people are stupid, and will think exactly that: "oh, they're slow and stupid, they're obviously easy to avoid".
Yeah, that's why there's so many of them in the movies.
And also, like I said, if the zombie virus was as contagious at the swine flu is as of now, we would be screwed. Royally. Especially if the virus incubation period is long, and especially since we wouldn't have an immediate cure for it right away. Not only that, but the virus could be seeped into the water supply, and maybe eventually become airborne. I realize the traditional way of zombies multiplying is bites, but it doesn't necessarily have to just be bites. We'll never really know for sure unless a zombie apocalypse actually happens.[/QUOTE]
I must disagree with you. World War Z is a book, not reality. Neither is Zombieland. The army would have more than what is necessary to take down the zombies that were in Yonkers. They would have known that headshots take down soldiers and would have had the supplies to take them out. In Zombieland there were a lot of scenes where the characters walked through roads filled with abandoned cars, but no zombies. In reality, there would be about 10 zombies or so wherever you walked. Unless it is a city, in which case you are FUCKED.
You two are fighting about the cons and pros about shamblers and sprinters. Fact is , sprinters are deadlier. The arguments so far are:
Slow zombies move in groups (Fast zombies will be everywhere as well)
Slow zombies will follow you forever (You can walk or jog away from them with ease until you are out of sight)
Slow zombies don't die (It's easy to shoot a slow zombie in the head)
Slow zombies are smartz and can dodge bulletz!!!(No. Sprinters are the ones characterized for climbing fences and being too fast to shoot)
The army will easily deal with slow zombies.
[QUOTE=Viephemeral;17805809]I must disagree with you. World War Z is a book, not reality. Neither is Zombieland. The army would have more than what is necessary to take down the zombies that were in Yonkers. They would have known that headshots take down soldiers and would have had the supplies to take them out. In Zombieland there were a lot of scenes where the characters walked through roads filled with abandoned cars, but no zombies. In reality, there would be about 10 zombies or so wherever you walked. Unless it is a city, in which case you are FUCKED.
You two are fighting about the cons and pros about shamblers and sprinters. Fact is , sprinters are deadlier. The arguments so far are:
Slow zombies move in groups (Fast zombies will be everywhere as well)
Slow zombies will follow you forever (You can walk or jog away from them with ease until you are out of sight)
Slow zombies don't die (It's easy to shoot a slow zombie in the head)
Slow zombies are smartz and can dodge bulletz!!!(No. Sprinters are the ones characterized for climbing fences and being too fast to shoot)
The army will easily deal with slow zombies.[/QUOTE]
Then to use your logic, they can just as easily take down fast zombies. Since you're portraying the Army to be the obviously god-like war machine that we are, the Army would be just as efficient as taking down fast zombies.
I've been in the Army for 3 years so far and I can tell you that yes, while the individual soldier is a walking machine of badass, I can easily see us failing against zombies, fast or slow, if the outbreaks get out of hand. It has to do with leadership: Yonkers was devastating for the military because of incompetent leadership. Instead of trying to actually deal with the zombies, they wanted to show the public that the American government was still in charge and could take the fight to the undead.
Now switch to later in the book, to the Battle of Hope. If you've read the book I don't need to describe to you what happens. Competent leadership, old-fashioned but useful tactics are used, not the conventional tactics we would use against a Cold War enemy.
[quote]Slow zombies move in groups (Fast zombies will be everywhere as well)
Slow zombies will follow you forever (You can walk or jog away from them with ease until you are out of sight)
Slow zombies don't die (It's easy to shoot a slow zombie in the head)
Slow zombies are smartz and can dodge bulletz!!!(No. Sprinters are the ones characterized for climbing fences and being too fast to shoot)[/quote]
1. Maybe. Regardless, the shamblers are massive in number, and they last far longer than sprinters.
2. Just because you're out of sight doesn't mean they'll just give up. They don't know the concept of giving up. They can still hear you. If you're quiet, they can still smell you. More likely than not you'll be sweating, so that shows up like a flare on their radar. Unless you can literally jog several miles (and even then, they will still head in the general direction you went to), you will not get rid of shamblers easily.
3. You really think it's easy to shoot a moving bulls-eye the size of a small bowling ball? World War Z wasn't shitting the reader: throughout training you are prepped for torso shots, not head shots (although there are individual exceptions within certain units). If you call shooting dozens of moving, small bullseyes without getting tired easy, then you're Jesus.
4. I didn't say shamblers are smart, but Sprinters are just as easy to shoot. Unless you're in the Matrix there is no fucking way you can't dodge a bullet if its collision course is solid.
Slow fo sho.
Shambler so i have my pistol ready
[QUOTE=LSK;17804420]Both, best zombie apocalypse ever. I can't choose between just one, it's too hard. :frown:
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The fast ones don't decay the same as the slow ones do, they're just infected, not rotting.[/QUOTE]
then there not zombies
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[QUOTE=kpax632;17807687]then there not zombies
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You're trying too hard.
[QUOTE=Viephemeral;17805809]I must disagree with you. World War Z is a book, not reality. Neither is Zombieland. The army would have more than what is necessary to take down the zombies that were in Yonkers. They would have known that headshots take down soldiers and would have had the supplies to take them out. In Zombieland there were a lot of scenes where the characters walked through roads filled with abandoned cars, but no zombies. In reality, there would be about 10 zombies or so wherever you walked. Unless it is a city, in which case you are FUCKED.
You two are fighting about the cons and pros about shamblers and sprinters. Fact is , sprinters are deadlier. The arguments so far are:
Slow zombies move in groups (Fast zombies will be everywhere as well)
Slow zombies will follow you forever (You can walk or jog away from them with ease until you are out of sight)
Slow zombies don't die (It's easy to shoot a slow zombie in the head)
Slow zombies are smartz and can dodge bulletz!!!(No. Sprinters are the ones characterized for climbing fences and being too fast to shoot)
The army will easily deal with slow zombies.[/QUOTE]
Sorry, that's just stupid.
"(It's easy to shoot a slow zombie in the head)". See that bowling ball sized head bobbing up and down? Yeah, it's got an eye missing. Yeah, it's missing an arm and it's stomach is missing. And those 50 other ones? Yeah. Shoot them. 1 shot 1 kill. Easy. -.-
And Sprinters wouldn't be any harder to shoot than a shambler, you'd be more innacurate, but the infected wouldn't dodge the shots. They can't. There is hardly anything that can dodge a well placed shot.
It's like a war. It's fun while in videogames and movies, but if it comes to reality, most of us would be pissing ourselves.
[QUOTE=johanz;17811027]It's like a war. It's fun while in videogames and movies, but if it comes to reality, most of us would be pissing ourselves.[/QUOTE]
Most of us would be the zombies.
[QUOTE=professional;17808623]You're trying too hard.[/QUOTE]
ok i am but i think runners do not count as zombies and world war z and the other book zombie survival guide agree
id say slow zombies, because ive always wanted to go nuts on a horde of 50 zlowbies with a baseball bat :D
[QUOTE=Jimmyshimmy;17811544]id say slow zombies, because ive always wanted to go nuts on a horde of 50 zlowbies with a baseball bat :D[/QUOTE]
Why would you want to die?
[QUOTE=johanz;17811584]Why would you want to die?[/QUOTE]
obviously dying is not a part of this fantasy of mine
[QUOTE=johanz;17811027]It's like a war. It's fun while in videogames and movies, but if it comes to reality, most of us would be pissing ourselves.[/QUOTE]
Yeah but its really fun fantasizing.
I would set up father-gregori style traps for the zombies, grab a stereo and turn on "Down with the Sickness" by Disturbed on the highest volume possible (to attract the zombies) and burn a whole bunch.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcHfp9ZOne8[/media]
I would do this atleast once a week, and I will live on the roofs of houses (because zombies can't climb :cheers:)
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[QUOTE=The Epidemic;17811687]Yeah but its really fun fantasizing.
I would set up father-gregori style traps for the zombies, grab a stereo and turn on "Down with the Sickness" by Disturbed on the highest volume possible (to attract the zombies) and burn a whole bunch.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcHfp9ZOne8[/media]
I would do this atleast once a week, and I will live on the roofs of houses (because zombies can't climb :cheers:)
What kind of traps would I be setting?
[U]*Highway to Hell*[/U]
I'd gather up lots of gasoline and spread it all over the street. (Preferably a dead-end street)
I'd turn up my bait, and watch as the Shamblers slowly approach over the horizon, oblivious to the fate that awaits them. I'd wait until they fill up the whole street, then I'd throw down a match and watch them [I]burn.[/I]
[U]*Bear's Demise*[/U]
Dig up a large hole with a shovel, and preferably a few buddies to make it bigger.
Get a few bedsheets and cover the holes, then try to camouflage it a little with leaves and shit.
Fire up your bait, and try to lure them into the hole.
Once they all fall in, you can either let them starve to death and force them to eat each other, or just burn them. (Preferably the first option, to save resources)
Those were fun to make. You guys should think up some too.[/QUOTE]
A quick note, there'd be no need to cover the hole assuming it's shamblers, they wouldn't notice or be deterred by it, and I doubt they'd eat or fight oneanother but whatever ^^
[QUOTE=cyclocius;17811843]A quick note, there'd be no need to cover the hole assuming it's shamblers, they wouldn't notice or be deterred by it, and I doubt they'd eat or fight oneanother but whatever ^^[/QUOTE]
Meh, they have to get their energy from somewhere.
After a few days they'll probably resort to eating eachother.
[QUOTE=The Epidemic;17811876]Meh, they have to get their energy from somewhere.
After a few days they'll probably resort to eating eachother.[/QUOTE]
Sorry to be a zombie nerd an' all, but they wouldn't eat oneanother, they find Necrotic flesh repulsive. As in, they don't ever eat it. And zombies don't seem to register to other Zombies so I doubt they'd fight :S
They don't need energy. That's why they're slow, dead, and fictional.
I prefer old-school shambling zombies to be honest.
Zombie Killing music:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcHfp9ZOne8[/media]
I would do this atleast once a week, and I will live on the roofs of houses (because zombies can't climb :cheers:)
What kind of traps would I be setting?
[U]*Highway to Hell*[/U]
I'd gather up lots of gasoline and spread it all over the street. (Preferably a dead-end street)
I'd turn up my bait, and watch as the Shamblers slowly approach over the horizon, oblivious to the fate that awaits them. I'd wait until they fill up the whole street, then I'd throw down a match and watch them [I]burn.[/I]
[U]*Bear's Demise*[/U]
Dig up a large hole with a shovel, and preferably a few buddies to make it bigger.
Get a few bedsheets and cover the holes, then try to camouflage it a little with leaves and shit.
Fire up your bait, and try to lure them into the hole.
Once they all fall in, you can either let them starve to death and force them to eat each other, or just burn them. (Preferably the first option, to save resources)
[U]*Sorry to Rain on your Parade*[/U]
Since shamblers are slow creatures, it's extraordinarily easy to lure them into traps. And off cliffs.
Simply attract as much attention as possible (preferably with "DOWN WITH THE SICKNESS")
Then let them follow you to a cliff (have someone set up a rope while you're leading the parade)
Then quickly slide down the rope and watch the Shamblers tumble down and break every bone in their body (effectively paralyzing them and letting them die a slow and painful death)
--ALTERNATIVE--
Get a bulldozer and push them off.
[U]*I fucking love pancakes*[/U]
Unfortunately, this one might need a steam-roller.
Just go on a killing spree around downtown flattening any Shambler foolish enough to get in your way (aka all of them).
[U]*Do you know what we do to Shamblers?*[/U]
Get a long rope, and a friend.
Find a lone shambler then tie him up.
(With two people, just run at him and then keep on going in circles around him with the rope)
Make sure you have a bit of rope left, and pull the piece of shit around like he's your dog.
Drag him to a high building, tie the rope to a pole or something and push him off. (Either with a heavy cinder block, or a kick if you have the balls.)
Those were fun to make. You guys should think up some too.
[QUOTE=LiquidNazgul;17778766]Chop off their head, the head is still animate.[/QUOTE]
In the movies, when they chop off a zombie's head, that normally kills them, right? The flow of oxygen ceases and the brain eventually dies.
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;17812058]In the movies, when they chop off a zombie's head, that normally kills them, right? The flow of oxygen ceases and the brain eventually dies.[/QUOTE]
In films I think that does it yeah, but a true Solinum zombie wouldn't be deterred, it's just be a head trying to bite you :3:
Kinda like Resident Evil, I much rather prefer the old school game play with slow zombies.
They seem much more... diabolic.
I prefer fast zombies when i want action and slow when i want tactics.
I think that fast zombies are much scarier than the slow zombies, because unless your an Olympic athlete, you're not getting away from one. Although, slow zombies also have their perk of being more subtle and having more endurance compared to the faster ones.
I like the fast zombies. What's scarier than a fast moving zombie trying to kill you? The slow zombies aren't thrilling to me.
[QUOTE=cyclocius;17810914]Sorry, that's just stupid.
"(It's easy to shoot a slow zombie in the head)". See that bowling ball sized head bobbing up and down? Yeah, it's got an eye missing. Yeah, it's missing an arm and it's stomach is missing. And those 50 other ones? Yeah. Shoot them. 1 shot 1 kill. Easy. -.-
And Sprinters wouldn't be any harder to shoot than a shambler, you'd be more innacurate, but the infected wouldn't dodge the shots. They can't. There is hardly anything that can dodge a well placed shot.[/QUOTE]
I can shoot a moving target the size of a bowling with my civilian m16 at 50 yards consistently with no problems. If you are an experienced marksmen, it really is no problem. It just comes down to how much ammo you have. And while the undead outnumber the living in a slow zombie apocalypse, they don;t outnumber the amount of bullets the army has.
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