I'm starting the 100 Push-Up challenge! Come join me!

[MaverickIB]

[QUOTE=Atlascore;40956347]You guys can do that without being dicks, every one of MaverickIB's posts are a trainwreck.[/QUOTE]

A trainwreck for being true?

If someone wants to get good at doing push-ups, then this is a great program. If they want something to burn time, this is a great program.

However, if someone wants to build muscle, this program won't do it unless you severely lack muscle. To an unhealthy degree. Even then, it will only build muscle up until you can do around 12 push ups consecutively. Because beyond 12 or so reps, hypertrophy will stop. Which is why weight lifters increase the weight as they go, it's called progressive overload. Once you hit a level where you can do 12-18+ reps, you are no longer using a heavy enough weight to cause hypertrophy. It isn't heavy enough to cause the microtears required for growth.

If someone wants to "get into shape," this program won't do it. Push-ups are not a quality cardiovascular exercise. The muscles will get burnt out far before your cardiovascular system experiences any kind of stress.

Sorry I'm not sugar coating everything for you, but that's the truth. This program is good for nothing but getting good at doing push-ups. It offers virtually no benefits as far as building muscle and/or getting fit go unless you have truly never done any kind of physical activity in your entire life.

[Unclejimmema]

The way that website has it set up is asinine. Honestly your much better doing a max set x3 and just keep doing that every day. You're pushups will go up a lot faster.

[Zeke129]

I can't believe it I'm agreeing with Maverick

Honestly if you think this will get you in shape you must also think that memorizing a list of state capitals will make you smarter

[oyotnas]

For those stomping this for it not doing much physically. Put it this way. It is a start. You may not have enough motivation to join a gym but if you can do 100 push ups it can give you confidence which is never a bad thing when it comes to making a stronger, healthier ,version of yourself.

[JaegerMonster]

[QUOTE=geel9;40954870]Wow and you fitness subforum regulars wonder why people don't visit you

Hint: you're being asses.[/QUOTE]

tbh, I've searched through the thread 3 times now for the posts that people are being "asses" in, and I can't find them.

I think you guys are just far too sensitive. And to that point, if you're really going to be that sensitive to some posters perceived "tone", you've probably got bigger issues than your fitness or physical health.

[Irkalla]

So I've been working at a restaurant for about three weeks. Since I've been working there, my appetite has bottomed out...

To the point of eating supper (1 minute steak, a scoop of mashed potatoes and gravy. Haven't approximated calorie count) on Night 1, going to sleep on Morning 2, waking up at Noon 2, going to work at Night 2, and coming home at Early Morning 3. I might eat breakfast (1 biscuit, 1 sausage, 1 egg and a slice of cheese, approx 640 Calories.)

And well... I've basically starved off around 45 pounds, from 290 lbs. I'm just not hungry. I figured I might try this though, as perhaps if I increase demand on my body, I'll regain an appetite? Or perhaps I can keep the fat burning? Whether it's healthy or not, I've got the ball rolling. I'd like to keep the momentum up.

[JaegerMonster]

[QUOTE=Fourm Shark;40957496]Exhibit A[/QUOTE]

its no skin off my nose dude, if you want to get super sensitive about every time you perceive someone being rude to you when they are just giving it to you straight, you're not going to do well in life in general, let alone the utter silliness of getting mad over an internet post, especially one that's not even insulting to you personally.

[Kefirman]

Did a 250 squat one combined with this.
While no noticeable changes came from push-ups, bodyweight squats really helped with lower body strength and overall stability.

[Dark RaveN]

[QUOTE=Atlascore;40956347]You guys can do that without being dicks, every one of MaverickIB's posts are a trainwreck.[/QUOTE]

At least he speaks truth, push ups are for general athletic fitness, not for strength.

Say, is there any pull up challenge? THOSE are what I want to do.

[Ghosevil]

Finishing this program is only really useful as a party trick.. Otherwise you'll probably have more fun working with a more serious (but very lax!!) weight-lifting program.

[Helari]

[QUOTE=Fourm Shark;40957891]I'm not getting mad. Believe me, I am all about telling it like it is. It is, however, a bit annoying to see someone write or talk in a condescending way, even mildly.[/QUOTE]

actually you are just insecure and didnt like it at all when you got corrected.

[jamzzster]

I have a set of dumbells that I use to help me with a sort of all round exercise. I use them as handles for push ups. I put my feet under them for extra balance whilst doing various sit ups, and I do various exercises with them for my arms.

Cost effective and I have a good body tone. I cycle alot so my legs are good intone but squats with the dumbells also do help when I'm not cycling for periods of time.

If you are going to do a challenge like this, set your self more than 1 challenge at a time, such as 100 push ups, 100 sit ups, and 100 various pumps with dumbells.

[Monkey Pie]

[QUOTE=PassTheBong;40951190]I'd have to beg to differ. Don't expect the challenge to turn you into a hollister model or anything. I noticed tone in my pecs, not a lot, but it was an improvement. Like I said, you can use this challenge as a tool to phase into the gym environment if that's your wish. It can damage your body to go straight into the gym without any recent training/knowledge, and for that, they can refer to the fitness board. Some people can't afford gym memberships, and those that can might see it as a waste of money due to lack of commitment.

This method requires no memberships, no going to the gym, and no tools/machines. So I'd say the improvement is quite significant, considering.[/QUOTE]

im laughing

im laughing hahaha

[editline]9th June 2013[/editline]

but im not hatin doughe

ill extend a personal invitation to the witness the fitness subforum

if you get over the fact we speak mild retardese we'll give you loadsa good starting advice

[eurocracy]

This thread is firmly reinforcing why I don't go to Witness the fitness.

[Kingy_who]

[QUOTE=MaverickIB;40953709]No. You can't get strong on push-ups, that's just horseshit. A push-up is around the equivalent of benching 60 percent of your bodyweight. Unless you're a fatty mcfatass, that's a laughable amount of weight for most people. If you're 200lbs, that's like benching only 120lbs. Doesn't matter if you can do it 100 times, it's still bitch weight and you aren't considered strong.

100 push-ups? Any kid with too much time to spend can do a program like this and get to 100 pretty easily.

But it can take months of consistent training to get a previously untrained person to reach even 10 pull-ups. Hell, some guys gotta bust their dicks just to get to ONE pull-up. Because you're lifting your entire bodyweight, by the time you can pull your entire bodyweight up 12+ times, you're quite a bit stronger than the average person.[/QUOTE]

Different people have different goals, some people want to be strong and some people just want to lose some weight but not have stick thin arms. But wouldn't this be better if it was accompanied by running and sit ups?

[urbanmonkey]

For the people saying you're not seeing any gains (and the guy saying he can do 147), make sure you're actually doing them correctly. You should take about two seconds to get down to where your chest is touching the ground (or where your elbows are 90 degrees), hold it for a second, then explode back up. That's one. You'll definitely be seeing gains doing it that way. If your "fat ass can do 65, or 100 easily as two sets of 50", you're either not doing them right, or you're built as fuck underneath your chub.

[Monkey Pie]

[QUOTE=eurocracy;40959308]This thread is firmly reinforcing why I don't go to Witness the fitness.[/QUOTE]

WtF is way milder then /fit/ and BB.com

if you think we're bad then good luck lmao

[editline]9th June 2013[/editline]

[QUOTE=Atlascore;40956347]You guys can do that without being dicks, every one of MaverickIB's posts are a trainwreck.[/QUOTE]

i love how only those insecure as shit think we're dicks stop being so fucking afraid and we will open our arms for you. we never laugh at you, we never make fun of you and if we do we make sure you know we're joking before we do. Like me and azn or ryzo for that matter.

We only jump at you if you spout broscience and bullshit in our section. And since we're all weightlifters it kinda comes natural that we think shit like 100 push-ups challenge is a waste of time because the time you use doing that shit you could have spent in the gym and actually got solid results and better health.

[Bobsters34]

[QUOTE=Kingy_who;40959333]Different people have different goals, some people want to be strong and some people just want to lose some weight but not have stick thin arms. But wouldn't this be better if it was accompanied by running and sit ups?[/QUOTE]
not really
running, yes that's good for you but chances are, if ur a stick you'll stay a stick. since you won't be eating enough calories

[acpm]

hmm, that post i laid down on page one was just to lighten the mood because, legitimately, the thread was heading in the wrong direction, and i still think its getting derailed right now. but i think the Witness the Fitness guys have points that we should listen to, fpers need to try not to be discouraged when they're presented with straight up facts

its pretty clear maverickib knows what the fuck hes talking about so we should probably not be insensitive to it or whine about how he's showing off some superiority when he wouldn't be wasting his time posting if he didnt want to show us the reality of the challenge

my question to the Witness the Fitness people is, what type of interim challenge would help the unfit of fp? if you wanted to build up into a transition into gym stuff or have no ability to join a gym due to certain limitations in time or money, what is recommended by that community to maintain a state of some degree of physical wellness (not ripped or bodybuilding work)?

i'm curious considering i work from home all the time and my life pretty much revolves around college courses, work, and sleep with little time inbetween

[Chrille]

[QUOTE=acpm;40961529]hmm, that post i laid down on page one was just to lighten the mood because, legitimately, the thread was heading in the wrong direction, and i still think its getting derailed right now. but i think the Witness the Fitness guys have points that we should listen to, fpers need to try not to be discouraged when they're presented with straight up facts

its pretty clear maverickib knows what the fuck hes talking about so we should probably not be insensitive to it or whine about how he's showing off some superiority when he wouldn't be wasting his time posting if he didnt want to show us the reality of the challenge

my question to the Witness the Fitness people is, what type of interim challenge would help the unfit of fp? if you wanted to build up into a transition into gym stuff or have no ability to join a gym due to certain limitations in time or money, what is recommended by that community to maintain a state of some degree of physical wellness (not ripped or bodybuilding work)?

i'm curious considering i work from home all the time and my life pretty much revolves around college courses, work, and sleep with little time inbetween[/QUOTE]

Run a couple of times a week, and do an actual bodyweight fitness program minimum three times a week. Bodyweight/gymnastics doesn't even have to lead to a gym membership, if you're dedicated you can get really fit doing that. Dudes who do gymnastics are often freakishly strong.
There are extensive guides on google, or maybe ask Rago in his thread in Witness the Fitness.

[spaceghost]

[QUOTE=Barbarian887;40951488]they do not

all they do is make you good at doing pushups like Maverick said[/QUOTE]

Or you could, you know, have someone put a weight plate on your back.

[editline]9th June 2013[/editline]

[QUOTE=xKarma;40952370]this is stupid as hell

pushups alone won't build much muscle if any at all

just start lifting (do stronglifts 5x5) or some shit if you really wanna lose weight and gain muscle[/QUOTE]

You what else is stupid? Jumping straight into weightlifting without even being capable of doing basic body weight exercises with proper form.

[Heigou]

[QUOTE=SpaceGhost;40962908]Or you could, you know, have someone put a weight plate on your back.

[editline]9th June 2013[/editline]

You what else is stupid? Jumping straight into weightlifting without even being capable of doing basic body weight exercises with proper form.[/QUOTE]

Except at this point you might as well go the extra mile and actually work out unless you want some insane muscle imbalance from doing nothing but push ups.

[Chrille]

[QUOTE=SpaceGhost;40962908]You what else is stupid? Jumping straight into weightlifting without even being capable of doing basic body weight exercises with proper form.[/QUOTE]

Yes, doing an excessive amount of pushups will surely help that.

[rilez]

[QUOTE=SpaceGhost;40962908]
You what else is stupid? Jumping straight into weightlifting without even being capable of doing basic body weight exercises with proper form.[/QUOTE]

That's not stupid at all considering no one starts with proper weight lifting form & beginners lift below body weight anyway.

You learn form by watching proper form and practicing, not by doing push-ups. Body weight exercises actually help you a lot less, especially at insane repetitions where you're basically just putting excess strain on your joints

[spaceghost]

[QUOTE=Heigou;40962963]Except at this point you might as well go the extra mile and actually work out unless you want some insane muscle imbalance from doing nothing but push ups.[/QUOTE]

I don't mean like, getting up 200+ push ups then starting, hell just a couple months of proper body weight exercises would get you acclimated to the physical stress. I didn't say not to weight lift either, you could always do weighted push ups at the end of your chest workout.

[editline]9th June 2013[/editline]

[QUOTE=rilez;40963050]That's not stupid at all considering no one starts with proper weight lifting form & beginners lift below body weight anyway.

You learn form by watching proper form and practicing, not by doing push-ups. Body weight exercises actually help you a lot less, especially at insane repetitions where you're basically just putting excess strain on your joints[/QUOTE]

There isn't really a need to even get to 100 push ups i know, but it isn't too much stress, unless you have shitty joints, some people like to build endurance alongside strength, or agility, there's literally a dozen or more push up variations you can do, some of them are incredibly hard.

[editline]9th June 2013[/editline]

[QUOTE=Chrille;40962964]Yes, doing an excessive amount of pushups will surely help that.[/QUOTE]

It's not excessive at all.

[Zeke129]

[QUOTE=Monkey pie;40959356]WtF is way milder then /fit/ and BB.com

if you think we're bad then good luck lmao[/QUOTE]

The entire fitness community, online or off, is fucking toxic

[Ryz0]

[QUOTE=Zeke129;40963188]The entire fitness community, online or off, is fucking toxic[/QUOTE]

sry i cant hear you through your fat rolls

[editline]9th June 2013[/editline]

im just playin'

But seriously if you're not willing to ask questions and gain knowledge from the fitness subforum because we're "asses" (spoiler: we aren't) then you don't deserve gains.

[Zeke129]

[QUOTE=Ryz0;40963243]sry i cant hear you through your fat rolls

[editline]9th June 2013[/editline]

im just playin'

But seriously if you're not willing to ask questions and gain knowledge from the fitness subforum because we're "asses" (spoiler: we aren't) then you don't deserve gains.[/QUOTE]

It's the same as the tech community, ask what "open source" means and they'll tear your head off and say you don't "deserve" to know

It's also why both the fitness and tech communities are huge circlejerks that are a laughing stock among everyone else

[Ryz0]

We're not like that in the slightest, if you came down you'd know this.

the regulars are assholes to each other but when a new comer comes along and asks a question we'll answer them to the best of our ability without being a dick

[Monkey Pie]

[QUOTE=SpaceGhost;40962908]Or you could, you know, have someone put a weight plate on your back.

[editline]9th June 2013[/editline]

You what else is stupid? Jumping straight into weightlifting without even being capable of doing basic body weight exercises with proper form.[/QUOTE]

Started weightlifting without managing to a single pushup bro, didn't stop me from doing anything. A bench bar is easier then a pushup.

[editline]9th June 2013[/editline]

[QUOTE=Zeke129;40963321]It's the same as the tech community, ask what "open source" means and they'll tear your head off and say you don't "deserve" to know

It's also why both the fitness and tech communities are huge circlejerks that are a laughing stock among everyone else[/QUOTE]
also no

diffrence between us and the tech community is that we don't tear off your head.

if you say like: "GOTTA GET THAT BROTEIN IN THE HALF HOUR WINDOW AFTER TRAINING"

yes we are gonna laugh at you. And the way we act are superficial because we talk like gym monkeys for fun.

If you come to us with help with a program or you're doing something wrong like form for example we'll help you.

hell ill go the extra mile and link you to the posts we help users with.

[editline]9th June 2013[/editline]

Starting with maverick himself, giving us insight in what noobgains actually are: [url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1261726&p=40951085&viewfull=1#post40951085[/url]

Here is ryzo being killing himself with presupps: [url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1261726&p=40949235&viewfull=1#post40949235[/url]

here rilez got his first nickname: [url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1261726&p=40836855&viewfull=1#post40836855[/url] (i have a thing for nicknames)

here heigou helps a guy with some advice: [url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1261726&p=40813296&viewfull=1#post40813296[/url]

fucking ask me and ill fucking give

even rilez is one of us now at this point, we helped him when he came to us.