I'm starting the 100 Push-Up challenge! Come join me! - General

i can confirm pre workout supps (jack3d) are going to be the death of me

[QUOTE=Zeke129;40954272]My fat ass can do 65, or 100 easily as two sets of 50, ability to do pushups doesn't correlate to overall fitness one little bit[/QUOTE] They correlate to fitness. High endurance is a good staple of "fit" Being strong is also a good staple of being "fit" You should be both to be called "fit" To do just push ups is asine. Also chances are your form sucks like 80% of people who do push ups. You need to go deep, have your hands shoulder lengths apart, and your elbows need to hit 45 degrees or more. Most people hardly go down, and have their arms WAY far out, and they are moving their elbows in. That makes for one easy push up.

[QUOTE=ScoutKing;40964235] Also chances are your form sucks like 80% of people who do push ups. You need to go deep, have your hands shoulder lengths apart, and your elbows need to hit 45 degrees or more. Most people hardly go down, and have their arms WAY far out, and they are moving their elbows in. That makes for one easy push up.[/QUOTE] Or maybe it's because I've been doing a bodyweight workout routine a few times a week for the last year and pushups are a staple of that This kind of assumption that everyone is doing it wrong is a perfect example of the rudeness and abrasiveness of the fitness community [editline]9th June 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Monkey pie;40963599] Starting with maverick himself, giving us insight in what noobgains actually are: [url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1261726&p=40951085&viewfull=1#post40951085[/url] Here is ryzo being killing himself with presupps: [url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1261726&p=40949235&viewfull=1#post40949235[/url] here rilez got his first nickname: [url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1261726&p=40836855&viewfull=1#post40836855[/url] (i have a thing for nicknames) here heigou helps a guy with some advice: [url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1261726&p=40813296&viewfull=1#post40813296[/url] fucking ask me and ill fucking give even rilez is one of us now at this point, we helped him when he came to us.[/QUOTE] Heigou's post could be a model of posting I'll give you that

[QUOTE=Zeke129;40963321]It's the same as the tech community, ask what "open source" means and they'll tear your head off and say you don't "deserve" to know It's also why both the fitness and tech communities are huge circlejerks that are a laughing stock among everyone else[/QUOTE] what are you talking about?? the programming subforum is full of nice and helpful people all you have to do is approach them with humility just like any other part of facepunch and you won't get your head torn off and just like any other part of facepunch, only the regulars are dicks to each other, and for obvious reasons (they know each other, or someone in the subforum is literally so dense they get yelled at all the time) the gmf is probably the only toxic part of facepunch i can think of

[QUOTE=Monkey pie;40959356] i love how only those insecure as shit think we're dicks stop being so fucking afraid and we will open our arms for you. [B]we never laugh at you[/B], we never make fun of you and if we do we make sure you know we're joking before we do. Like me and azn or ryzo for that matter. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Monkey pie;40959265]im laughing im laughing hahaha [editline]9th June 2013[/editline] but im not hatin doughe ill extend a personal invitation to the witness the fitness subforum if you get over the fact we speak mild retardese we'll give you loadsa good starting advice[/QUOTE]

i'd rather smoke weed and play halo

[QUOTE=pancaker94;40965455]i'd rather smoke weed and play halo[/QUOTE] mo' pussy fo' me

[QUOTE=WeekendWarrior;40951395]You're honestly better off combining this with gym sessions.[/QUOTE] This is what I'm going to do. Starting on week 3 because I know I can easily do 30, and after a few days of working out I can do anywhere from 40-50 in a set. I think it would be best to get your cardio in, 15 minutes at least (for me about 1.5-2 miles running), do this pushup routine, then I prefer to do sit ups and planks to work out my core. Personally I like the gym for working out my legs.

Doing 1 sort of movement is bad, you're body gets used to it and you only workout 1 muscle group. You'd be much better off doing a workout routine with variable lifts and then seeing how many pushups you can do.

[QUOTE=Bobsters34;40952562]if you don't have the willpower to go to the gym 3 days then im sorry you're not going to make it it's 1.7% of your week, no excuse not to go[/QUOTE] It's not that simple for everyone. Imagine you have to count in commutes which can be huge for a lot of people and more importantly - gyms cost cash which a lot of people don't have any to spare really. But there's no excuse not to go running every other day.

I don't believe you're going to build strength while solely doing push ups, more likely you'll build endurance as you're increasing your reps and not your weight. But any time someone wants to push themselves physically is fantastic, but I think you should push yourself further if you're only going to do bodyweight stuff. Mix it up by doing a set of push ups, a set of squats, some bridging, some pull ups (if you have a bar somewhere) and then maybe some dips. I don't mean to sound like an ass hole, but if you think you're strong or super fit by being able to do 100 push ups and then can't squat or hold a bridge, then you really aren't. You just have excellent endurance with your chest muscles. [editline]10th June 2013[/editline] Good luck to anyone who gives this a go!

[QUOTE=Zeke129;40963321] that are a laughing stock among everyone else[/QUOTE] lmao as if thats A) true B) detrimental wow the people that are good at technology/fitness some of the most beneficial shit on the planet are gettin laugjhed at ooh dear y me

[QUOTE=Fourm Shark;40968273]You sound like a twelve year old. In ALL your posts.[/QUOTE] waste of bandwith capn obvious

[QUOTE=Atlascore;40961021]This is why no one visits Witness the Fitness, you guys can't post anything without calling people insecure or acting as condescending as humanly possible. The whole point of doing this is to build confidence so you can move onto actual exercises, I'm sorry that you're offended by the fact that most people don't want to instantly jump into a gym and start doing the "lets lift 500 pound weights" thing.[/QUOTE] wow brah i am honestly hurt anyone cam pm me for fit advice i help u

[QUOTE=Fourm Shark;40968273]You sound like a twelve year old. In ALL your posts.[/QUOTE] shut up nerd. if you want advice you will probably get it and there's really no need to act like a bitch.

[QUOTE=Fourm Shark;40969559]I was not referring to the fitness section. I was referring to yippie's idiotic post.[/QUOTE] you sound just as bad bro

All the fitness people here are most likely correct. Push ups on their own do very little to promote muscle gain (except maybe for the first couple weeks) and doing push ups to burn fat is like trying to drain the sea with a spoon, but that does not change the fact that they are (not all of them I'll give you that) being massive dicks. Why is it so fucking difficult to be supportive of someone who tries to get in shape or is taking an interest in fitness? OK we get it, you spent hours and hours at the gym and you have experience and knowledge, but nowhere in this thread anyone suggested they were going to get massively ripped or lean as fuck by doing 100 push ups. You might notice how the title of the thread is "I'm starting the 100 Push up challenge" and not "Give me advice on how to get fit", just wish him and anyone else trying out this challenge good luck and move on. Unwarranted advice might be one of the most annoying things ever, and when you call what someone is doing "useless" and "waste of time" and telling them to "just lift" you are not helping them, you are simply driving them away from exercise. Seriously do you really think someone will go "Oh I was going to do this challenge, but since 5 people on a forum called it useless and told me to lift I am going to go to a gym instead". Maybe this is just a self confidence thing? People might feel better about themselves, knowing they can do 100 pushups? Maybe they want to see if they can stick with a program before investing into a gym membership or a weight set. Maybe they just fucking love pushups. This is not even about being constructive, this is being an ass. Best of luck to anyone trying out this challenge!

Even though people are starting to get it....it's like you guys still fall short simply because you are afraid of the unknown and unfamiliar. It's amazing how you all manage the same train of thought. If you're looking to become an endurance athlete, then ya sure you can do push ups and other bodyweight exercises to build up endurance. But even then, your training can't simply be that. You'll need to do cardio exercises like running, biking, rowing, etc. But if you're looking to build strength for whatever reason, you need to do resistance training. You need to progressively add on weight each session you do the exercise. You get stronger by making your muscles work more/harder/how ever the hell you want to look at it, each time. That's the whole concept of strength, and why we keep yelling at you people for mixing up strength and endurance. But then there is fucking more: [B]Powerlifting =/= Bodybuilding [/B] Majority of posters in WtF are powerlifters, myself included. Simply put, compare an Olympic powerlifter's physique to a Mr.Universe or Mr.Olympia They don't look the same. You may even think some powerlifters don't look strong because they aren't "jacked". Well, big shock to you people here: [B]there is more to being strong than just looking it.[/B] Part of it is a bodyfat % thing, part of it is genetics. Yes, genetics. Don't worry though, even with your "crappy genetics", you can go pretty far with your strength and muscle tone. But to get anyfuckingwhere, you need to do shit that works, and works for what your fitness goal is /thread come to Witness The Fitness already

[QUOTE=NO ONE;40970478]Even though people are starting to get it....it's like you guys still fall short simply because you are afraid of the unknown and unfamiliar. It's amazing how you all manage the same train of thought. If you're looking to become an endurance athlete, then ya sure you can do push ups and other bodyweight exercises to build up endurance. But even then, your training can't simply be that. You'll need to do cardio exercises like running, biking, rowing, etc. But if you're looking to build strength for whatever reason, you need to do resistance training. You need to progressively add on weight each session you do the exercise. You get stronger by making your muscles work more/harder/how ever the hell you want to look at it, each time. That's the whole concept of strength, and why we keep yelling at you people for mixing up strength and endurance. But then there is fucking more: [B]Powerlifting =/= Bodybuilding [/B] Majority of posters in WtF are powerlifters, myself included. Simply put, compare an Olympic powerlifter's physique to a Mr.Universe or Mr.Olympia They don't look the same. You may even think some powerlifters don't look strong because they aren't "jacked". Well, big shock to you people here: [B]there is more to being strong than just looking it.[/B] Part of it is a bodyfat % thing, part of it is genetics. Yes, genetics. Don't worry though, even with your "crappy genetics", you can go pretty far with your strength and muscle tone. But to get anyfuckingwhere, you need to do shit that works, and works for what your fitness goal is /thread come to Witness The Fitness already[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/cR2Nh.jpg[/IMG] Here's an image to go with that.

I'm all about bodybuilding, also that ^ picture isn't biased at all..

[QUOTE=NO ONE;40970478]Even though people are starting to get it....it's like you guys still fall short simply because you are afraid of the unknown and unfamiliar. It's amazing how you all manage the same train of thought. If you're looking to become an endurance athlete, then ya sure you can do push ups and other bodyweight exercises to build up endurance. But even then, your training can't simply be that. You'll need to do cardio exercises like running, biking, rowing, etc. But if you're looking to build strength for whatever reason, you need to do resistance training. You need to progressively add on weight each session you do the exercise. You get stronger by making your muscles work more/harder/how ever the hell you want to look at it, each time. That's the whole concept of strength, and why we keep yelling at you people for mixing up strength and endurance. But then there is fucking more: [B]Powerlifting =/= Bodybuilding [/B] Majority of posters in WtF are powerlifters, myself included. Simply put, compare an Olympic powerlifter's physique to a Mr.Universe or Mr.Olympia They don't look the same. You may even think some powerlifters don't look strong because they aren't "jacked". Well, big shock to you people here: [B]there is more to being strong than just looking it.[/B] Part of it is a bodyfat % thing, part of it is genetics. Yes, genetics. Don't worry though, even with your "crappy genetics", you can go pretty far with your strength and muscle tone. But to get anyfuckingwhere, you need to do shit that works, and works for what your fitness goal is /thread come to Witness The Fitness already[/QUOTE] idk but im p. sure im the only certified powerlifer in WtF

[QUOTE=Fetret;40969766] Why is it so fucking difficult to be supportive of someone who tries to get in shape or is taking an interest in fitness? OK we get it, you spent hours and hours at the gym and you have experience and knowledge, but nowhere in this thread anyone suggested they were going to get massively ripped or lean as fuck by doing 100 push ups.[/QUOTE] Like I said, if someone wants to do this in order to get good at doing push-ups, then it's a great program. However, it is an extremely poor introduction to fitness because it helps you very little as far as fitness goes. That is why I am so hostile towards the program, even if you're doing it as a baby step into fitness, it's a poor choice and you will be no more "ready" for more advanced things like lifting weights than if you jumped right into them. Saying this program is an introduction to fitness is like telling someone walking around in the baby pool is an introduction to swimming. Unless someone has never been in water before ever, then it will do them absolute no good whatsoever. Unless someone has done absolutely zero physical activity in their life, this program won't do any good whatsoever. And if you're doing it for the mental aspect, it's still extremely poor. If you want something to make you feel good, invest in a door-mounted pull up bar. Pull-ups (and chin-ups) are actually pretty damn good mass builders and, especially if you can't even do a single one, once you do, it's an extremely proud feeling. Plus, adding weight is as easy as putting on a backpack full of heavy stuff. Infinitely better choice as a beginner program.

[QUOTE=Ryz0;40971209]I'm all about bodybuilding, also that ^ picture isn't biased at all..[/QUOTE] it's part of some comic artists guide to drawing abs and jacked dudes. so it's not an authority on anything really. "bodybuilders aren't strong" lmao [img]http://i45.tinypic.com/6hoqhs.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=MaverickIB;40971722]Like I said, if someone wants to do this in order to get good at doing push-ups, then it's a great program. However, it is an extremely poor introduction to fitness because it helps you very little as far as fitness goes. That is why I am so hostile towards the program, even if you're doing it as a baby step into fitness, it's a poor choice and you will be no more "ready" for more advanced things like lifting weights than if you jumped right into them. Saying this program is an introduction to fitness is like telling someone walking around in the baby pool is an introduction to swimming. Unless someone has never been in water before ever, then it will do them absolute no good whatsoever. Unless someone has done absolutely zero physical activity in their life, this program won't do any good whatsoever. And if you're doing it for the mental aspect, it's still extremely poor. If you want something to make you feel good, invest in a door-mounted pull up bar. Pull-ups (and chin-ups) are actually pretty damn good mass builders and, especially if you can't even do a single one, once you do, it's an extremely proud feeling. Plus, adding weight is as easy as putting on a backpack full of heavy stuff. Infinitely better choice as a beginner program.[/QUOTE] I know the program is not worth much, I even agree with you guys on how just doing push ups is not going to let you have a ripped body or anything. But this is a start and this is not the thread to discuss how people who wish to start doing pushups are "only going to get better at doing pushups". If they are genuinely interested in continuing with fitness, they will start asking questions in WtF or wherever. Coming to this thread and only posting about how useless this is going be is not encouraging anyone to do anything, it is just stifling whatever motivation a person might have.

Would pullups be working most of the same muscles that pushups would because I would rather work on pullups than pushups.

[QUOTE=areolop;40974591]Would pullups be working most of the same muscles that pushups would because I would rather work on pullups than pushups.[/QUOTE] No. Pull-ups are mostly lats and biceps (with plenty of stabilizers like abs and whatnot) and push-ups are mostly pecs and triceps. However, as I've said, with push-ups you're only pressing around 60 percent of your bodyweight. It isn't much at all, not enough to build any kind of meaningful muscle. With pull-ups, you're lifting your entire bodyweight, you can actually build some mass with them. So they actually improve your physique whereas push-ups won't.

[QUOTE=Fetret;40974475]I know the program is not worth much, I even agree with you guys on how just doing push ups is not going to let you have a ripped body or anything. But this is a start and this is not the thread to discuss how people who wish to start doing pushups are "only going to get better at doing pushups". If they are genuinely interested in continuing with fitness, they will start asking questions in WtF or wherever. Coming to this thread and only posting about how useless this is going be is not encouraging anyone to do anything, it is just stifling whatever motivation a person might have.[/QUOTE] Hey we're only trying to help you guys by telling you it's a waste of time and effort. There are tons of other exercises you can do that are also free and don't require much equipment/gear, if any. But if you guys want this to be the waste your time and effort thread, so be it.

[QUOTE=MaverickIB;40975127]No. Pull-ups are mostly lats and biceps (with plenty of stabilizers like abs and whatnot) and push-ups are mostly pecs and triceps. However, as I've said, with push-ups you're only pressing around 60 percent of your bodyweight. It isn't much at all, not enough to build any kind of meaningful muscle. With pull-ups, you're lifting your entire bodyweight, you can actually build some mass with them. So they actually improve your physique whereas push-ups won't.[/QUOTE] I just know that my upper body strength is really weak while my cardio is really strong. I'm more inclined to do pullups than pushups because I can never get the form right on a pushup

Except the OP in the thread states blatant lies. It talks about how this will get you stronger and build muscle, which it won't. If the OP stated nothing but, "This is just a thing you can do if you have the time and want to get good at doing push-ups," then none of us WtF guys would have come in here. But when the OP states shit that's outright wrong (not necessarily his fault, since he apparently ripped the info from the site or whatever) it takes advantage of people. It entices kids to do the program thinking this will help them build muscle when it won't. It will just waste their time and turn them off from fitness even more. Once again, nobody would have had a problem with this thread if the program was treated as what it is, a way to get good at push-ups. Essentially learning how to do a party trick. Nothing else. But when people start claiming it will make them more fit, build muscle, get strong, etc. then you're going to have people like me stepping up and attempting to prevent people from wasting their time thinking it will actually do those things.

The fact of the matter is the OP and this entrie thread has undertones of 'if we do 100 push ups life will be great'. What we of WtF are saying is that instead of wasting your time on this program, you should dedicate yourselves to another (read actually going to a gym or just doing pullups etc). It might eat up more of your time but you will see a great deal more benefits from doing that rather than the 100 pushup program. Also, for those of you (such as the OP) who want to do this to lose weight, it will do sweet FA in that respect. If you want to lose weight I recommend eating a calorific deficit and going running (or some other cardio) instead of doing pushups. Pushups won't make you lose weight or even 'tone' you if your bodyfat % is high enough. Work on acheiving a healthy weight before attempting to build muscle. If my post is too long, for the love of god just remember that the whole of WtF are against this shitty program. We are probably the only ones who lift on this site and collectively have years of experience in health and fitness; making our opinions very valid indeed concerning the topic.