• I'm starting the 100 Push-Up challenge! Come join me!
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Seriously, come to WtF to gain knowledge. Could be one of the best decisions you make
you guys should listen to the wtf folks, they wouldn't be in here if they didn't give a shit, and it's not like they have a subforum for no reason i'm thinking about stopping in and asking about some stuff since you guys seem really chill and super knowledgable
heres a protip for the rest of the facepunch: wtf is full of dicks, but we've all been there at that point where we had no idea what was going on. we're being dicks because we want to get the bullshit out of the way so you guys can start becoming sexy and fit. also we're really just picking out the little mistakes OP made in his thread; 100 pushups isn't something most people can chalk down, so getting there is quite a feat. however, the problem comes in the misconceptions of what it'll do for you, what thread readers expect, and the reality of it all.
is it being able to do 100 or just doing 100 per day?
Just did a random 15 push ups, thank you op for getting me back into exercising For those who are saying push ups are a complete waste, you are wrong, you may not be able to gain much muscle but your brain will learn to use your muscles better resulting in a ~10% increase in strength. For those wanting muscle mass, invest in dumbbells, my set was $99AUD
I wouldn't say I'm fit, necessarily, but I can do more than 20 pushups at a time. I believe I can do around 30 consecutively on a good day, 20 on a bad day. I'm gonna start this challenge when I get home from visiting family later this week, so I'll start it on Monday. [editline]12th June 2013[/editline] I've been soo lazy since I got out of school and I'm going to try to combine this with jogging every day in the morning. Hopefully this will get me going and I'll start going to the gym.
[QUOTE=SubbyV-2;41011642]Just did a random 15 push ups, thank you op for getting me back into exercising For those who are saying push ups are a complete waste, you are wrong, you may not be able to gain much muscle but your brain will learn to use your muscles better resulting in a ~10% increase in strength. For those wanting muscle mass, invest in dumbbells, my set was $99AUD[/QUOTE] Thats a shitty argument, doing anything with your muscle will increase your strength but only in particular ways... plus it sounds retarded, think what you are looking for is the CNS - Central Nervous System (the capacity of which is responsible for thise skeletons lifting hundreds of kg = strong CNS). Exercise will definately improve this but will only improve it in some ways, e.g. only doing pushups will only make you better at pushups. Also WtF is very against buying your own weights for a very good reason. When you start out your noobgains will quickly shoot past the weights you have, stalling progress and forcing you to buy more weights. You are better off investing that $99 into a 3 monthish gym membership and then you get to utilise other weight equipment as well.
[QUOTE=Chrille;40972137]it's part of some comic artists guide to drawing abs and jacked dudes. so it's not an authority on anything really. "bodybuilders aren't strong" lmao [IMG]http://i45.tinypic.com/6hoqhs.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] [SUB][SUB][SUB]I can't read that thing man [/SUB][/SUB][/SUB] Here: [t]http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs46/f/2009/219/8/2/Abdomination_by_Coelasquid.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=SubbyV-2;41011642]Just did a random 15 push ups, thank you op for getting me back into exercising For those who are saying push ups are a complete waste, you are wrong, you may not be able to gain much muscle but your brain will learn to use your muscles better resulting in a ~10% increase in strength. For those wanting muscle mass, invest in dumbbells, my set was $99AUD[/QUOTE] 10% increase in strength? Go to the gym 30-60 minutes a day and you could have a 100% increase in under 6 months
[QUOTE=Ruski v2.0;41013164]Thats a shitty argument, doing anything with your muscle will increase your strength but only in particular ways... plus it sounds retarded, think what you are looking for is the CNS - Central Nervous System (the capacity of which is responsible for thise skeletons lifting hundreds of kg = strong CNS). Exercise will definately improve this but will only improve it in some ways, e.g. only doing pushups will only make you better at pushups. Also WtF is very against buying your own weights for a very good reason. When you start out your noobgains will quickly shoot past the weights you have, stalling progress and forcing you to buy more weights. You are better off investing that $99 into a 3 monthish gym membership and then you get to utilise other weight equipment as well.[/QUOTE] No, like your brain learns how to use your muscles effectively. I don't know about you and your superiority complex but "Noobgains" may be wanted instead of "gym addicted gains". And I can do alot with dumbells, once I get pass "noob gains", i will go for more reps
[QUOTE=SubbyV-2;41017476]No, like your brain learns how to use your muscles effectively. I don't know about you and your superiority complex but "Noobgains" may be wanted instead of "gym addicted gains". And I can do alot with dumbells, once I get pass "noob gains", i will go for more reps[/QUOTE] It's not your brain learning how to use the muscles more effectively though, it's the CNS as he mentioned, your brain has shit all to do with strength increase and your CNS will only learn how to use your pecs and triceps more effectively on push ups, absolutely nothing else. Also going for more reps is good and all but you'll quickly outgrow these weights and doing more reps will just be useless. Gaining strength/mass is all about pushing yourself and putting resistance on the muscles, if you're doing anywhere above 12 reps, I'm really debating how much resistance you're really putting on your muscle at this point and you won't be growing anymore. It's not about us and our superiority complex, it's just basic physiology. Noobgains is a term referring to the quick growth new people working out goes through, it's not bad but you're taking it as an insult too for some reason, basically when your new, your CNS starts to better use your muscles and glycogen store at a very quick rate so you'll quickly outgrow any sets of dumb bells you can buy at home, that's what he meant by trying to get a gym membership for at least the first 3 months rather than outright buying a set of dumbbells for $99 or you're just somewhat wasting your noobgains.
[QUOTE=SubbyV-2;41017476]No, like your brain learns how to use your muscles effectively. I don't know about you and your superiority complex but "Noobgains" may be wanted instead of "gym addicted gains". And I can do alot with dumbells, once I get pass "noob gains", i will go for more reps[/QUOTE] Noob gains is just a slang term for the rapid CNS adaptation and rapid increase in glycogen storage new trainees go through. He wasn't being insulting.
[QUOTE=SubbyV-2;41017476]No, like your brain learns how to use your muscles effectively. I don't know about you and your superiority complex but "Noobgains" may be wanted instead of "gym addicted gains". And I can do alot with dumbells, once I get pass "noob gains", i will go for more reps[/QUOTE] Ok. Lets tear this apart. Please take this as constructive criticsm, as it is only meant in that manner (as you evidently got butthurt at me saying 'noob gains'). Firstly. I don't have a superiority complex at all. I can percieved to be confident because weightlifting tends to do that (as looking better makes anybody feel better about themselves). Secondly. as both heigou and myself have said, the brain has sweet fuck all to do with muscle growth. The CNS system is responsible. Thirdly. The term 'noobgains' has already been explained by both heigou and jaeger. I wasn't trying to be insulting, I just assumed you would understanding the meaning of the term in this fitness related context (or at least google it before getting butthurt). Fourth. I'll give you some advice. Using those dumbells past 12 reps (as heigou said) will not do a great deal. If anything all it will do is make you able to lift that certain weight more and more (i.e. training for endurance and not muscle growth = you will see no benefits from this, ironically the same effect seen in the pushup program). So my point above remains, buy more weights or just get a gym membership. It boggles the mind how people with a touch of broscience and a passive-aggressive attitude can actually question someone who is trying to help people with solid advice, with 2 years experience in the topic in question. I've had enough of this thread. Good luck to anyone who tries the program, I do hope you get the results you want from this program. For other people who want definate results and solid advice, I'd strongly advise coming to WtF for yourselves. We do appear like total dickheads in there (particularly me most of the time) but as said elsewhere in the thread we do so to get the majority of the stupidity out of the way. We would love to assist anybody in their goals of achieving a 'dream body'. [editline]14th June 2013[/editline] oh and ty jaeger nd heigou xoxox
I was able to do 10 girly push ups
I did this a year ago, it totally worked though my first test set was already at like 60. Still though, great program, I recommend it.
I was going to do this, but all the fitness guys came in and made it sound totally worthless. I still might though just for shits.
[QUOTE=Taepodong-2;41051688]I was going to do this, but all the fitness guys came in and made it sound totally worthless. I still might though just for shits.[/QUOTE] Don't get us wrong, it depends entirely on your goal, you want a party trick or want to get better strictly at push ups? Do this thing. You want to actually get fit and lose weight/get ripped, this will absolutely not help you. It's all on what you want to do, if you care little about getting muscular and just want something to do, by all means pick this up.
This sounds good to me, I'm in. I recently began working out again to better my health, and cut down significantly on cigarettes, and I need something to work for. 100 pushups sounds good to me, it'll help get rid of these moobs.
[QUOTE=Insulator;41056572]This sounds good to me, I'm in. I recently began working out again to better my health, and cut down significantly on cigarettes, and I need something to work for. 100 pushups sounds good to me, it'll help get rid of these moobs.[/QUOTE] Don't want to be a party pooper, but there's no such thing as spot reduction. Working out your chest won't burn fat on your chest. Push-ups are an extremely poor fat burning exercise since you will burn out your muscles far before you make any kind of dent in calorie expenditure.
[QUOTE=Insulator;41056572]This sounds good to me, I'm in. I recently began working out again to better my health, and cut down significantly on cigarettes, and I need something to work for. 100 pushups sounds good to me, it'll help get rid of these moobs.[/QUOTE] You unfortunately can't decide where you lose fat, if you could, I'd be on that shit hard. The best way to lose these moobs you have is to simply eat less, more precisely, caloric deficit. Exercising is not necessary though always helpful.
If you want to build more muscle, and you insist on sticking with pushups, do [URL="http://www.menshealth.com/mhlists/cms/uploads/1/decline-pushup.jpg"]decline pushups[/URL] instead, and gradually increase the height, so more of your weight is over your arms.
Eventually though, the brunt of it will be on your shoulders rather than your chest.
Dry land exercising heathens. Go swimming 2-4 hours a day and in a month you get cut as fuuuuuck. Really though, swimming is pretty good because it exercises everything [b]at once[/b] I'm lucky to have a slim build and quick metabolism. In a month I get six packs and look so good I stare at myself in the mirror. As for push-ups, I have those perfect push ups things but always forget to use them. I did for a few months one time and my pecs were hard as rocks.
[QUOTE=Errorproxy;41078018]Dry land exercising heathens. Go swimming 2-4 hours a day and in a month you get cut as fuuuuuck. Really though, swimming is pretty good because it exercises everything [b]at once[/b] I'm lucky to have a slim build and quick metabolism. In a month I get six packs and look so good I stare at myself in the mirror. As for push-ups, I have those perfect push ups things but always forget to use them. I did for a few months one time and my pecs were hard as rocks.[/QUOTE] When I started actually exercising (gym, jogging etc) and eating right I lost 20kg in 6 months. Then it kind of slowed down when I actually started gaining muscle, and now it floats between 76kg-80kg which is the optimal weight for me if BMI is to be trusted. I also realized that I've never done a single push-up since I started properly exercising. I tried it now, got to 64 then collapsed. :v: I would like to start swimming too but there aren't any proper places within 50km and I don't want to travel ~1 hour just to swim.
BMI goes out the window once you get any respectable amount of muscle on you, virtually everyone who lifts weights is going to be in the overweight area regardless of how lean they are. BMI is only vaguely useful for "normal" people who aren't necessarily active. Even then, it's a pretty shitty system. Body fat percentage is a much better number to go by.
I started the program a couple weeks ago and I'll tell you: Push ups DO build muscle, for a weak and skinny person like my self I have noticed a visual change. However, I realize that this is ONLY up to a certain point and then all they are doing is building endurance / lactic tolerance. Are they a good permanent work out program? No, but they are a good starter for upper body workout, and they do add well to a balanced work out program.
Is it a good way of muscling one's back ? I frequently have spinal problems and it was said that it was due to not having strong enough back muscle. I don't mind doing the program, since last time I did push up series I ended up looking a bit less scrawny. I also think it would be a good transition to proper gym exercises since my school is properly equipped for that (or so I was told).
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