Weightlifting/Bodybuilding V2-General questions and help in here, u mirin?
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downloaded some sort of calorie counter on my phone to help keep track of how i eat
i want to try to eat 1900 at the absolute max per day and i guess this will help me on what to cut out
[QUOTE=sam.clarke;28601467]Just had a quick read on the madcow 5x5 and Binksy is right, seems like your shoulders, calfs and traps will be the most missed. Could be wrong though, maybe it was a different routine to what you've seen? The best programme is your own I always find, take ideas from other peoples but find one that works for you and remember to keep mixing it up every 6-8 weeks. The worst thing you can do is stick to the same routine for months on end, that's when progress starts to slow.[/QUOTE]
Yeah madcow and all those are cool but what you gotta understand is that you gotta do what works for you, madcow is just generic shit for everybody, look at what works for others and see if it works for you, combine things, etc.
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[QUOTE=SCopE5000;28600912]Been working lower chest with decline presses and fly's, and trying to get my abs to tear through.
[img_thumb]http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/3906/chestoy.jpg[/img_thumb]
I believe I'm well on my way to fuilfilling my 'Hollister Man' goal by summer.[/QUOTE]
yeah bro looking good (no homo) that hollister thing is def achievable for you
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[QUOTE=Maucer;28599878]Im hungry but too bored to make a meal. So I made a little shake.
3 raw eggs
1.5 teaspoons of vanilla sugar
1dl of milk
blend[/QUOTE]
why da fuk would u have raw eggs
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[QUOTE=Rago;28599570]Can somebody give me tips on how to become wider? What exercises should I do? I'm very skinny but I eat a lot and I can't have too much carbohydrates because of my skin infection. But trust me, I do eat a lot![/QUOTE]
Work your back and shoulders, those help quite a bit
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[QUOTE=Maucer;28599471]Hahha could someone try this test and lemme know how accurate results you got
[url]http://www.healthcentral.com/cholesterol/home-body-fat-test-2774-143.html[/url]
Either the test sucks or I fucked something up.
[url]http://www.changingshape.com/resources/calculators/body-fat-calculator.asp[/url]
[url]http://www.healthstatus.com/cgi-bin/calc/calculator.cgi[/url]
IMO I look something around 10[/QUOTE]
all of those don`t work
dude think of how many people you`ve seen that look normal with a shirt but without it they are fat as fuck
these don`t take enough things into account
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[QUOTE=Casusv3;28601661]tbh i havent read much on intermediate but madcow just seems p good , i might do hst , west gate, texas method . ill decide wehn i get there tbh hell anything thats not a split ill be willing to read about it[/QUOTE]
hst sucks and is boring as fuck lol
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[QUOTE=sam.clarke;28601652]The article I was reading was shite:
[url]http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/wotw56.htm[/url]
This one seems pretty decent, not hitting the chest too much but you could add a few extra sets in there to make up for it. Just me, but I focus on my chest most of all, hitting it from all angles so normally get about 10-12 different exercises in there on chest day.[/QUOTE]
holy fuck why the hell would you do 10-12 dude
you understand that the chest is pretty much just that one big muscle? why not do less exercises but push yourself more on each?
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[QUOTE=Perfumly;28607937]Creatine is magical. Last week my bench was down to 135lbs for 3 sets of 8.
Did 3 sets of 8 with 150lbs today. U mirin?[/QUOTE]
jelly as fuark brah
what creatine you on
gonna get some when I'm done this cut (if I start taking it now it will be harder to tell when I am at aesthetic levelz~~)
So guys, i'm thinking about switching from my jack of all trades workout to a more specific one.
I'm going to start trying to have everything broken down over 3 days. I've decided with the weekends kicking my ass, to exercise on Sunday, Tuesday, and Thursday. This puts it right on my off days from work and school (save for sunday, when i have work.)
So, i figure this is the best place to ask, if anyone would like to design me a 3 day workout plan to cut fat for the time being, while still gaining muscle.
I was thinking about doing specifics, like upper body, lower body, etc on different days.
Anyhow, you all know more about what works and what doesn't as far as this goes, so have at it. I hope someone can come up with a decent plan.
[QUOTE=VQ35HR;28609606]
gonna get some when I'm done this cut (if I start taking it now it will be harder to tell when I am at aesthetic levelz~~)[/QUOTE]
Im just usin some GNC brand stuff. it's pretty cheap.
[QUOTE=JohnStamosFan;28610369]So guys, i'm thinking about switching from my jack of all trades workout to a more specific one.
I'm going to start trying to have everything broken down over 3 days. I've decided with the weekends kicking my ass, to exercise on Sunday, Tuesday, and Thursday. This puts it right on my off days from work and school (save for sunday, when i have work.)
So, i figure this is the best place to ask, if anyone would like to design me a 3 day workout plan to cut fat for the time being, while still gaining muscle.
I was thinking about doing specifics, like upper body, lower body, etc on different days.
Anyhow, you all know more about what works and what doesn't as far as this goes, so have at it. I hope someone can come up with a decent plan.[/QUOTE]
1)Chest/tris
2)Back/bis
3)Shoulders (and traps)/legs
That in my opinion is a really good split. Some people will have their own preferences on which mucles to group together but I think this one is the most efficient: the 2nd most used muscle in chest exercises is tris (other than chest of course), most back exercises use your bis, and shoulders and traps should be together and legs and shoulders is a pretty good split because legs really need to be rested especially for squats and shoulders are pretty delicate so idk
having more than 2 bodyparts is dumb imo though, hard to work each part very well
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[QUOTE=Perfumly;28610507]Im just usin some GNC brand stuff. it's pretty cheap.[/QUOTE]
yeah man in a few weeks I'm getting just gonna some creatine mono
[QUOTE=VQ35HR;28610860]1)Chest/tris
2)Back/bis
3)Shoulders (and traps)/legs
That in my opinion is a really good split. Some people will have their own preferences on which mucles to group together but I think this one is the most efficient: the 2nd most used muscle in chest exercises is tris (other than chest of course), most back exercises use your bis, and shoulders and traps should be together and legs and shoulders is a pretty good split because legs really need to be rested especially for squats and shoulders are pretty delicate so idk
having more than 2 bodyparts is dumb imo though, hard to work each part very well
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yeah man in a few weeks I'm getting just gonna some creatine mono[/QUOTE]
Do you know anywhere to find a good workout list(I don't even know if that's what i would call it) that shows what exercises to do on those specific days?
I'm pretty lame when it comes to figuring out what workouts are best to do for specific parts of the body.
My gym has free weights, a smith machine (I think that's what you call it. The giant squat/bench press station with the angled rail that the weight bar rides on) and then a lot of weight machines. It also has some kettlebells that they just got in.
[QUOTE=JohnStamosFan;28611157]Do you know anywhere to find a good workout list(I don't even know if that's what i would call it) that shows what exercises to do on those specific days?
I'm pretty lame when it comes to figuring out what workouts are best to do for specific parts of the body.
My gym has free weights, a smith machine (I think that's what you call it. The giant squat/bench press station with the angled rail that the weight bar rides on) and then a lot of weight machines. It also has some kettlebells that they just got in.[/QUOTE]
I could recommend some
Chest: Bench, dumbbell bench, chest flys
Triceps: Skullcrushers, dips, rope pulldowns
Back: Deadlifts, wide grip pullup/pulldown, cable/tbar/dumbbell row
Bis: preacher curls, hammer curls, isolation curls
Shoulders: Military press, front raises, side raises, shoulder flys, traps=shrugs
Legs: squats, calf raises
I really don't like labeling deadlifts as a back exercise it's really much more of a leg work out.
[QUOTE=Binsky;28611733]I really don't like labeling deadlifts as a back exercise it's really much more of a leg work out.[/QUOTE]
lower back brah, and doing deadlifts and squats on the same day would be hard as fuck for someone who is just starting a split like that
also, this cut is going awesome as fuck
started doing high intensity cardio (sprints and shit in the pool), dove the pool underwater the whole way and then some, so 25+ meters underwater with no breath, umad braincells?
fuark can't wait to be finished this cut, progress pics are gonna be stylin
I know it's lower back too. I guess I see where you're coming from.
I'm pumped to see the pics, man. Keep it going. I'm reluctantly taking a bit of a break from lifting this week bc my neighborhood gym sucks and my uni gym is fucking far.
I've just been playing tennis and am going to Chatt to climb for a couple of days. I figure that'll be enough to keep everything warm for when I get back
[QUOTE=Binsky;28612744]I know it's lower back too. I guess I see where you're coming from.
I'm pumped to see the pics, man. Keep it going. I'm reluctantly taking a bit of a break from lifting this week bc my neighborhood gym sucks and my uni gym is fucking far.
I've just been playing tennis and am going to Chatt to climb for a couple of days. I figure that'll be enough to keep everything warm for when I get back[/QUOTE]
Dude you can`t even imagine how pumped I am, the progress is motivating in itself lol.
And it`s always good to take a week break from lifting once in a while, I should do that soon since I haven`t in a while.
[QUOTE=VQ35HR;28609606]\
hst sucks and is boring as fuck lol
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hst owns idiot, and the boring part is subjective. tbh all routines are boring
Thinking of switching routines, I reckon I've been over-training for the last 6 months focusing on one muscle group per day and hammering it with about 8-10 different exercises until fail with no rest days in the week. Saw this routine on t'internet, what do you reckon?
Monday: Back, Biceps And Forearms
Barbell Deadlifts: 2 sets of 10-12 reps
Chin-Ups: 2 sets of 10-12 reps
One-Arm Dumbbell Rows: 2 sets of 10-12 reps
Dumbbell Shrugs: 2 sets of 10-12 reps
Preacher Curls: 2 sets of 10-12 reps
Dumbbell Curls: 2 sets of 10-12 reps
Hammer Curls: 2 sets of 10-12 reps
Reverse Barbell Curls: 2 sets of 10-12 reps
Wrist Curls: 2 sets of 10-12 reps
Tuesday: Shoulders, Calves And Abs
Side Lateral Raises: 2 sets of 10-12 reps
Front Dumbbell Raises: 2 sets of 10-12 reps
Military Press: 2 sets of 10-12 reps
Standing Calf Raises: 2 sets of 10-12 reps
Donkey Calf Raises: 2 sets of 10-12 reps
Seated Calf Raises: 2 sets of 10-12 reps
Ab Crunch Machine: 2 sets of 10-12 reps
Crunches: 3 sets of 20 reps
Wednesday: Rest
Thursday: Legs
Barbell Squat: 2 sets of 10-12 reps
Leg Press: 2 sets of 10-12 reps
Leg Extensions: 2 sets of 10-12 reps
Seated Leg Curls: 2 sets of 10-12 reps
Lying Leg Curls: 2 sets of 10-12 reps
Standing Leg Curls: 2 sets of 10-12 reps
Friday: Chest And Triceps
Dumbbell Bench Press: 2 sets of 10-12 reps
Incline Dumbbell Press: 2 sets of 10-12 reps
Cable Crossovers: 2 sets of 10-12 reps
Military Press: 2 sets of 10-12 reps
Seated Triceps Press: 2 sets of 10-12 reps
Dips: 2 sets of 10-12 reps
Lying Triceps Press: 2 sets of 10-12 reps
Triceps Pushdowns: 2 sets of 10-12 reps
what the fuck god no
Seems alright to me. Less than my current routine but still hitting all the groups. I've been hitting the gym twice a day for the last few months too. Just starting to think it's all too much which is why my gains have slowed up.
With that routine above I'd probably go 3 sets 6-8 reps with heavier weights instead of 2X10.
the routines the majority of you people seem to favor are retarded, what are your stats and how long have you been lifting
What do you mean by stats? A bit over a year.
[QUOTE=sam.clarke;28615461]What do you mean by stats? A bit over a year.[/QUOTE]
lifting stats on bench,squat,dl,ohp, etc
[QUOTE=Casusv3;28615468]lifting stats on bench,squat,dl,ohp, etc[/QUOTE]
Bench with dumbells: 85KG (42.5kg in each hand)
Squat (Have only just started hitting the legs again): 80KG on bar
DL: 75KG
OHP (overhead press?): Using dumbells - 75KG
Think you double it if you want it in LBs.
Just wondering if I should cut back on going twice a day and on hitting one muscle group per day to swap for the programme above.
Progress and form aren't the problem. Just need a second opinion on the above routine if it is more suitable than going twice a day on a much more intensive routine.
[QUOTE=sam.clarke;28615524]Bench with dumbells: 85KG (42.5kg in each hand)
Squat (Have only just started hitting the legs again): 80KG on bar
DL: 75KG
OHP (overhead press?): Using dumbells - 75KG
Think you double it if you want it in LBs.
Just wondering if I should cut back on going twice a day and on hitting one muscle group per day to swap for the programme above.[/QUOTE]
god those stats are so weird , that routine you posted and the routine youve been doing are p dumb, look into madcow ( in more depth ) westside , texas method or 5/3/1. i honestly hate those split routines and youll see alot quicker results and better results on the routines i mentioned.
[QUOTE=Casusv3;28615593]god those stats are so weird , that routine you posted and the routine youve been doing are p dumb, look into madcow ( in more depth ) westside , texas method or 5/3/1. i honestly hate those split routines and youll see alot quicker results and better results on the routines i mentioned.[/QUOTE]
What's wierd about the stats? Legs are down because I neglected them for months and literally only started again a couple of weeks ago. Everything else is pretty consistant.
[QUOTE=sam.clarke;28615604]What's wierd about the stats? Legs are down because I neglected them for months and literally only started again a couple of weeks ago. Everything else is pretty consistant.[/QUOTE]
oh i thought you meant just the squat, the lifts seem fairly low but it seems that DB is harder than BB so im not going to complain to much but even if i add 30 lbs to your lifts it seems they still seem fairly low for a year. just read up on what i told you and make a choice. you dont have to have a million~~!~! exercises to make a muscle grow man
[QUOTE=Casusv3;28615622]oh i thought you meant just the squat, the lifts seem fairly low but it seems that DB is harder than BB so im not going to complain to much but even if i add 30 lbs to your lifts it seems they still seem fairly low for a year. just read up on what i told you and make a choice. you dont have to have a million~~!~! exercises to make a muscle grow man[/QUOTE]
You probably do, I've only just started eating properly and progressing properly in the last 2-3 months, up to then it's been a relativley half-assed attempt at lifting. Would help if I had a proper spotter rather than just asking randomers but my gym is a bit out of the way for my mates. Have seen much better gains in the last few months but get the feeling I've been over-training, been thinking that I need to hammer it down the gym to see good progress. Thinking I might drop down to once a day after work and find a decent routine, I'll have a look into what you mentioned.
[QUOTE=sam.clarke;28615665]You probably do, I've only just started eating properly and progressing properly in the last 2-3 months, up to then it's been a relativley half-assed attempt at lifting. Would help if I had a proper spotter rather than just asking randomers but my gym is a bit out of the way for my mates. Have seen much better gains in the last few months but get the feeling I've been over-training.[/QUOTE]
you really dont , spotters dont matter. doing a half assed attempt on a shitty routine is why you arent seening any results . undertraining = under eating ( most of the times) . get a good routine ( THE. ONES. I. TOLD. YOU) and eat more of pretty much everything ( only if you feel you arent making good gains)
Casusv3 is a god amongest gods.
Doing chest/bis, shoulders/tris and legs/back. Should I split legs and back? I'm also noticing I'm getting fatter but maybe because I sleep more now and eat anything I see in the kitchen, except for sweets and cakes.
Getting fat is part of the process. Also, legs and back? I die after legs.
My legs are just massive. There's way too much fat in it and I can't feel the muscle when I'm pressing my hamstrings. I really look unique apart from my school mates - my legs are so big than my arms combined. Everybody else have skinny legs apart from chubby kids.
What sucks is that I lift so low. I'm still stuck on 40kg in leg press, and after that my legs are just dead.
One day I had a fear that my dick will disappear into bags of fat of my legs.
[QUOTE=Fedly;28616629]My legs are just massive. There's way too much fat in it and I can't feel the muscle when I'm pressing my hamstrings. I really look unique apart from my school mates - my legs are so big than my arms combined. Everybody else have skinny legs apart from chubby kids.
What sucks is that I lift so low. I'm still stuck on 40kg in leg press, and after that my legs are just dead.
One day I had a fear that my dick will disappear into bags of fat of my legs.[/QUOTE]
That's quite a picture you drew, sorry, burnt into my mind. lol
Heya, what should I eat if I just HAVE to eat and don't feel hungry anymore ?
Want to try countering my too heavy training via eating :P
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