Weightlifting/Bodybuilding V2-General questions and help in here, u mirin?
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Well they're definitely smoother feeling as far as I know, never having done a pull-up.
[QUOTE=Kel|oggs;29831358]Nuts, lentils and of course whey.[/QUOTE]
Most nuts have just as many calories as potato chips. Don't eat them if you're trying to lose weight.
Or be aware of how many calories they contain and go from there.
I'm cutting
peanuts all day erry day and I lost 3% of BF already
[QUOTE=Major Helper;29832297]165cm/66kgs? Pfft. That's pretty much ideal weigh for you height according to Finnish suggestions, supposing that you're a man of course.
EDIT: or 0,1 points in the slightly overweigh category in BMI, but that's still a very healthy amount. I hardly think you're fat, unless you can show a photo which would prove you otherwise.[/QUOTE]
BMI BMI is bullshit bullshit. It may work for the "average" people. Sounds like he's not a lardass but a skinnyfat with no mussels.
I'm working in a department store and I always forget to take lunch with me. They don't sell much food there. Luckily i've found a bags of peanuts with 600 cals erry 100 grams, so my lunch has consisted of one or two cans of tuna and 100 grams of nuts. They have 55% fat and 20% protein lol
E: I've also been drinking full milk because it's mm creamy taste (twice the cals than fatless milk has) and I won 2kgs of chocolate this week. Woo fat
I tend to classify BMI as ok for anyone but buff people. You may be right but I still doubt he's as fat as he makes it sound like.
[QUOTE=NotMeh;29835976]I'm cutting
peanuts all day erry day and I lost 3% of BF already[/QUOTE]
what % of BF were you at before the cut?
16%, I'm 13 now
4 of my abs are now clearly visible without flexing
I do not have my abs visible (who wuda thunk?!) but my stomach is kinda weird looking. Whereas a normal fat guy usually has a pretty round belly or otherwise smooth flabby one, I have a belly that makes a sort of ab outline without the horizontal lines and without any muscle (well the muscle is under there but the fat layer is like an inch or more thick so it doesn't get through).
[QUOTE=Major Helper;29837912]I do not have my abs visible (who wuda thunk?!) but my stomach is kinda weird looking. Whereas a normal fat guy usually has a pretty round belly or otherwise smooth flabby one, I have a belly that makes a sort of ab outline without the horizontal lines and without any muscle (well the muscle is under there but the fat layer is like an inch or more thick so it doesn't get through).[/QUOTE]
That was an unnecessary image.
[editline]15th May 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Major Helper;29835499]Well they're definitely smoother feeling as far as I know, never having done a pull-up.[/QUOTE]
Pulls up are a compound movement. Free weights and machine are just two seperate things. free-weights never are smooth, because you need to stabilize yourself and most people don't have absolute equilibrium in their muscle strength.
As a guy who had done both for quite sometime, I'd give the pull-up the thumbs up. I'm burning after doing pull-ups. Much harder in every aspect. BUT, in terms of hypertrophy, machines will provide better results. No need to stabilize anything, your muscle is being almost directly worked. They're built to work that specific muscle group. I'm taking huge losses hypertrophy wise, because I've been doing compounds, almost absolute compounds, for 2 years now, give or take 6-9months. Aside from hypertrophy, I'm at a point where I NEED to insert isolation in order to bring up imbalances, because they hinder my progress. I've been using the barbell formation for so long, I should have had sex with it by this point.
This is being said from experience, both sides got months and months, so i'm not just throwing this in the air.
[editline]15th May 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Kel|oggs;29831880]5'5, 145 lbs, and...13.35% Body fat? But all my fat is pooled directly into my lower body. I want to get down to a 6 or 7% body fat.
[editline]14th May 2011[/editline]
5'5, 145 lbs, and...13.35% Body fat? But all my fat is pooled directly into my lower body. I want to get down to a 6 or 7% body fat.
Doesn't sound like much , but for what ever reason I'm still pretty fat.[/QUOTE]
First of all, it's good you're frustrated to some extent, as you seem to be puting enough effort into losing bodyfat.
Secondly, eating healthy food and using great deficients, might trigger some fat loss, but if you're aiming for a long term fatloss, you need to knowledge yourself a bit more. I'm too tired to explain right now, but in general, inducing more more and deficits is not only harmful, but not as effective as you think it should be. When you get to a certain deficient, your body just shuts down your metabolism. So, that is not the solution for you or anybody else for that matter.
Thirdly, From what I've read, you seem to be Carbohydrate Efficient. In that case, you need to work much harder. But don't let stop you. With the right knowledge, it should be a breeze (not to exaggerate of course).
Fourthly, I wrote this up pretty fast. PM me or homo-caaaaaasus for these matters. But first and foremost, read [i]Burn the Fat, Feed the muscle[/i]. Trust me, it will clear everything up. Big advocate of that book.
My six-pack is easily visible without flexing... Only difference when I flex is that they get tucked in. Wish I had genetics for an eight-pack.
[QUOTE=futnuck;29844746]My six-pack is easily visible without flexing... Only difference when I flex is that they get tucked in. Wish I had genetics for an eight-pack.[/QUOTE]
Not nessecrialy an issue of genetics. Might be more towards lack of work in your abdominals and even lower bodyfat.
How'd you guys calculate/estimate bodyfat percentage?
bodyfat scales
calipers
eyesight
[QUOTE=Seith;29844869]Not nessecrialy an issue of genetics. Might be more towards lack of work in your abdominals and even lower bodyfat.[/QUOTE]
I've been working on abs daily for around two years, and at least six months specifically targeting the lower abs. I've gone to really low body fat levels as well, and the most I can make out of the seventh and eighth abs is a barely visible plate of muscle. They just don't stick out like the others.
Abs can be pretty dependent on genetics, I've seen all kinds of weird sets of them.
[QUOTE=futnuck;29845788]I've been working on abs daily for around two years, [/QUOTE]
what the fuck
there's your problem
[QUOTE=NotMeh;29845826]what the fuck
there's your problem[/QUOTE]
.. Lower abs? Mhm... I sense something bizzare here. Low bodyfat? I doubt it.
[img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dtaWqzV6d7M/S4wpddIrdrI/AAAAAAAAAjY/lezUNwQ93EQ/s320/SDC10111.JPG[/img]
THIS IS A LOW BODY FAT IMAGE. REAL LOW. Veins, Striations eveywhere. Even the line between in the biceps itself is visible.
That looks weird as hell.
[QUOTE=NotMeh;29845826]what the fuck
there's your problem[/QUOTE]
I skip some days when something comes up, but you're supposed to be able to work abs every 24 hours.
[QUOTE=Seith;29846379]
THIS IS A LOW BODY FAT IMAGE. REAL LOW. Veins, Striations eveywhere. Even the line between in the biceps itself is visible.[/QUOTE]
My body fat seems a bit more than that. I guess my genetics just don't support an eight-pack.
I may have misunderstood, but were you arguing that you can still get one without the right genetics?
Hey guys, new in this thread. I am looking to bulk my chest at the moment, my biceps and triceps have bulked quicker than intended and kinda out of proportion to my chest. Was wondering if you could give me any advice?
My routine at the moment is
Barbell Bench Press
Inverte Barbell Bench Press
Dumbell Bench Press
Inverted Dumbell Bench Press
Dumbell flies.
Anything you guys can suggest?
i'm gonna get on abs properly tomorrow with all the weighted machines that the old ladies use
not about people's 200 crunch hype
[QUOTE=futnuck;29846892]I skip some days when something comes up, but you're supposed to be able to work abs every 24 hours.
My body fat seems a bit more than that. I guess my genetics just don't support an eight-pack.
I may have misunderstood, but were you arguing that you can still get one without the right genetics?[/QUOTE]
Yes I was.
And how exactly and what exactly supports the supposed 'fact' abdominals should, more likely, shouldn't be worked daily?
Because as far as I saw, the Rectus Abdominus contains roughly 50% Type I fibers. Which makes it just as much of a muscle as your chest for example (in terms of rep range, weight and sets). Your actions do not do justice to the evidence.
I'd suppose, in light of these numbers, one should be using medium-heavy amounts of weight (more towards medium) and use 10-15 reps for x number of sets. I don't give a fuck.
[editline]15th May 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Chubb;29846980]Hey guys, new in this thread. I am looking to bulk my chest at the moment, my biceps and triceps have bulked quicker than intended and kinda out of proportion to my chest. Was wondering if you could give me any advice?
My routine at the moment is
Barbell Bench Press
Inverte Barbell Bench Press
Dumbell Bench Press
Inverted Dumbell Bench Press
Dumbell flies.
Anything you guys can suggest?[/QUOTE]
I see you're a beginner. Stop messing around with stuff you shouldn't. That's was casues imbalances in the 1st place. 5x5 routines, SS, whatever, just stop asking those kind of questions here.
When I started, I did my research, and never needed to ask stupid questions. Sorry for being so blunt.
[editline]15th May 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;29847561]i'm gonna get on abs properly tomorrow with all the weighted machines that the old ladies use
not about people's 200 crunch hype[/QUOTE]
Free weights buddy... Decline bench, your gym has one for sure. Plate behind head. Towel wrapped plate. Do it, enjoy the burn, feel the pain.
[QUOTE=Chubb;29846980]Hey guys, new in this thread. I am looking to bulk my chest at the moment, my biceps and triceps have bulked quicker than intended and kinda out of proportion to my chest. Was wondering if you could give me any advice?[/QUOTE]
you should be working out in a way that puts weight evenly across your body. chest one day, arms another day, back another day, legs another day etc etc (I pulled that out of my ass, you can combine different groups on single days n stuff depending on how hard/long you're working for)
you shouldn't be bulking just your arms and then "looking to bulk [your] chest at the moment". do it evenly and consistently.
[QUOTE=sp00ks;29846840]That looks weird as hell.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't mind having that bodyfat%.
[QUOTE=Seith;29842635]That was an unnecessary image.
[editline]15th May 2011[/editline]
Pulls up are a compound movement. Free weights and machine are just two seperate things. free-weights never are smooth, because you need to stabilize yourself and most people don't have absolute equilibrium in their muscle strength.
As a guy who had done both for quite sometime, I'd give the pull-up the thumbs up. I'm burning after doing pull-ups. Much harder in every aspect. BUT, in terms of hypertrophy, machines will provide better results. No need to stabilize anything, your muscle is being almost directly worked. They're built to work that specific muscle group. I'm taking huge losses hypertrophy wise, because I've been doing compounds, almost absolute compounds, for 2 years now, give or take 6-9months. Aside from hypertrophy, I'm at a point where I NEED to insert isolation in order to bring up imbalances, because they hinder my progress. I've been using the barbell formation for so long, I should have had sex with it by this point.
This is being said from experience, both sides got months and months, so i'm not just throwing this in the air.
[editline]15th May 2011[/editline]
First of all, it's good you're frustrated to some extent, as you seem to be puting enough effort into losing bodyfat.
Secondly, eating healthy food and using great deficients, might trigger some fat loss, but if you're aiming for a long term fatloss, you need to knowledge yourself a bit more. I'm too tired to explain right now, but in general, inducing more more and deficits is not only harmful, but not as effective as you think it should be. When you get to a certain deficient, your body just shuts down your metabolism. So, that is not the solution for you or anybody else for that matter.
Thirdly, From what I've read, you seem to be Carbohydrate Efficient. In that case, you need to work much harder. But don't let stop you. With the right knowledge, it should be a breeze (not to exaggerate of course).
Fourthly, I wrote this up pretty fast. PM me or homo-caaaaaasus for these matters. But first and foremost, read [i]Burn the Fat, Feed the muscle[/i]. Trust me, it will clear everything up. Big advocate of that book.[/QUOTE]
I've been reading that book, and I just passed the part when he says that it's basically impossible to build muscle and lose fat at the same time.
@Seith
These aren't stupid questions. Chest proportion issues aren't uncommon, you could help the kid out instead of telling him to not ask "those kind of questions". Seems like a legitimate question to me.
Why would you argue that you can develop an eight-pack without the right genetics? That's obviously false, why are there pro bodybuilders that only have six-packs? In case you didn't know, genetics play a huge role in certain features of your body, most notably in the abs.
[QUOTE=futnuck;29848012]These aren't stupid questions. Chest proportion issues aren't uncommon[/QUOTE]
his chest proportion issues are self-inflicted by his crazy routine so yes it is a stupid question
Beginner mistakes make you stupid? Could just tell him instead of being a jerk.
I have been alternating like you say, I have been doing that chest routine along side my arm work, but my arms seem to have bulked mad quick compared to my chest, so I was asking if I was doing something wrong...
[QUOTE=Chubb;29846980]Hey guys, new in this thread. I am looking to bulk my chest at the moment, my biceps and triceps have bulked quicker than intended and kinda out of proportion to my chest. Was wondering if you could give me any advice?
My routine at the moment is
Barbell Bench Press
Inverte Barbell Bench Press
Dumbell Bench Press
Inverted Dumbell Bench Press
Dumbell flies.
Anything you guys can suggest?[/QUOTE]
How often do you do it? What else do you do?
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