Weightlifting/Bodybuilding V2-General questions and help in here, u mirin?
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[QUOTE=caaaasus;30034700]you were drunk 1 hour ago and then became undrunk??[/QUOTE]
ye came back from school after drinking during science, or some shit dont remember
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturated_fat#Association_with_diseases[/url]
( ps click the numbers next to the sentances its the source.)
besides the burden of proof is on you not me
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[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;30035042]Hi diksmoker, show me a reputable study that is conducted on ACTIVE, HEALTHY individuals in with a diet low-moderate in refined carbohydrate
I'll wait.
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You also say raise cholesterol like increased blood cholesterol is automatically a bad thing.[/QUOTE]
lmao he thinks raising ldl is a neutral or even a good thing
P.S
[url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20071648[/url]
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You know what has been shown to increase risk of heart disease? High CHO intake.
oh no
gasp
The basis of like every mass building diet out there. Should we suddenly stop eating large amounts of carbs?
[QUOTE=caaaasus;30033783]thats what you get from a bad diet and 10 months and a weird routine ( barely read it !!)[/QUOTE]
How do you know its weird if you didnt even bother to read it, anyway whats your stats over 10 months then hmm? also yeah im a hardgainer so yeah as that title stipulates, its hard to fucken gain lol. Also I admit my diet could be better.
[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;30035208]P.S
[url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20071648[/url]
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You know what has been shown to increase risk of heart disease? High CHO intake.
oh no
gasp
The basis of like every mass building diet out there. Should we suddenly stop eating large amounts of carbs?[/QUOTE]
n1 finding a study that shows one risk factor of cvd is high cho intake/insulin/diabetes ( like we didnt knwo that already)
( you know i never said anything about heart disease ,which have hundreds of risk factors , im talking about cholesterol ya dumas)
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[QUOTE=Proj3ct_ZeRo;30035261]How do you know its weird if you didnt even bother to read it, anyway whats your stats over 10 months then hmm? also yeah im a hardgainer so yeah as that title stipulates, its hard to fucken gain lol. Also I admit my diet could be better.[/QUOTE]
hes getting mad because i told him something he already knows wat. do you not know what skimming is . go ahead and blame your problems on being an ~ectomorph hardgainer~ lole~
P.S Casus regarding cholesterol
[url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2790097/pdf/ijerph-06-02626.pdf[/url]
"The Japanese have long been cited in support of the lipid hypothesis, but there is an abundance of research involving Japanese participants showing this hypothesis is in fact complete nonsense. The latest of such studies appeared in the Journal of Lipid Nutrition[8].
Japanese citizens over the age of 40 qualify for free annual health check-ups. The Fukui Study was based on data collected by the Public Health Center of Fukui from such check ups between 1986 and 1990 of residents of Fukui City in Japan. Researchers stratified 22,971 participants into groups according to their cholesterol levels.
Compared with those in the 240-259 mg/dl category, those in the 160-169 mg/dl (both sexes) and the 140-159 mg/dl (women) groups suffered significantly higher all-cause mortality.
Next, the researchers conducted a meta-analysis of five large Japanese studies (including the Fukui Study) with a combined total of over 170,000 subjects to examine cholesterol levels and all-cause mortality.
Participants with cholesterol levels between 160-199 mg/dL were chosen as the reference group. The meta-analysis revealed that the relative risk in the <160 mg/dL group was significantly higher than in the reference group [RR = 1.71], and that the relative risks in the 200-239 mg/dL and >240 mg/dL groups were significantly lower than in the reference group [RRs of 0.83 and 0.78, respectively].
The authors suggest that “Japanese subjects with cholesterol levels >240 mg/dL (>6.22 mmol/L) should not be regarded as hypercholesterolemic or dyslipidemic except when having some genetic disorders like familial hypercholesterolemia because they are in the safest ranges in terms of all-cause mortality”."
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Dietary cholesterol is important for multiple hormonal functions ya dumass
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OOp i think I gave you the wrong study
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here [url]http://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/jln/17/1/67/_pdf/-char/ja/[/url]
????? i never said they weren't wow youre taking things i say and putting a spin on it so it sounds like i hate cholesterol and sat fats. btw i didnt read that 2nd study but you said dietary cholesterol (that implies the cholesterol thats eaten)
it seems that youre just cheery picking studys that agree with you( alot like that one famous guy that thinks insulin , not calorie surplus , makes you fat) when i can find hundreds of studys and associations showing sat fats raising ldl can and will do negative things to your health
nerds
[QUOTE=caaaasus;30035323]n1 finding a study that shows one risk factor of cvd is high cho intake/insulin/diabetes ( like we didnt knwo that already)
( you know i never said anything about heart disease ,which have hundreds of risk factors , im talking about cholesterol ya dumas)
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hes getting mad because i told him something he already knows wat. do you not know what skimming is . go ahead and blame your problems on being an ~ectomorph hardgainer~ lole~[/QUOTE]
Still dont see your stats beta. I dont even care honastly im proud of what ive achieved and im going to keep improving.
[QUOTE=Proj3ct_ZeRo;30035477]Still dont see your stats beta. I dont even care honastly im proud of what ive achieved and im going to keep improving.[/QUOTE]
you can keep improving at that slow pace its ok. dont worry about the other people gaining twice as fast .
btw i lift 80 lbs bench 120 squat and 20 ohp , but that doesnt make my advice or criticism any less valid
[QUOTE=caaaasus;30035411]????? i never said they weren't wow youre taking things i say and putting a spin on it so it sounds like i hate cholesterol and sat fats. btw i didnt read that 2nd study but you said dietary cholesterol (that implies the cholesterol thats eaten)[/QUOTE]
The first study on the swedish farmers still supports what Im saying though. Those guys are eating huge amounts of saturated fats, and fat in general, with not nearly the amount of ill health effects we see in the west, that are "linked" to by organizations with some curious backers (its all about da hamiltons baby).
The 2nd study is study on Japanese people who have high cholesterol levels, yet live longer compared to people with low choles levels.
Fact remains is that inactivity, obesity and eating too fucking much is the cause of like, 90% of our "western" health problems.
[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;30035549]The first study on the swedish farmers still supports what Im saying though. Those guys are eating huge amounts of saturated fats, and fat in general, with not nearly the amount of ill health effects we see in the west, that are "linked" to by organizations with some curious backers (its all about da hamiltons baby). [B]you know mediteranians eat probably more fat and have near the same effect ( its because hundreds of other things including genetics lifestyle enviroment fat type ) . it in no way means that saturated fats dont have a link to ldl levels[/B]
The 2nd study is study on Japanese people who have high cholesterol levels, yet live longer compared to people with low choles levels.[B]same as above!![/B]
Fact remains is that inactivity, obesity and eating too fucking much is the cause of like, 90% of our "western" health problems.[B]ive seen sat fats be linked to as many as 30% of cvd [/B][/QUOTE]
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ur just mirin at my lifts
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[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia[/url]
[QUOTE=caaaasus;30035527]you can keep improving at that slow pace its ok. dont worry about the other people gaining twice as fast .
btw i lift 80 lbs bench 120 squat and 20 ohp , but that doesnt make my advice or criticism any less valid[/QUOTE]
If you wana gain you have to lift heavy lol. BTW the first 6 months of my training was all learning shit, I didnt know anything when I started and ive still got alot to learn, but its been alot of trial and error, im quite happy with how far ive come, knowledge included.
[QUOTE=Proj3ct_ZeRo;30035717]If you wana gain you have to lift heavy lol. BTW the first 6 months of my training was all learning shit, I didnt know anything when I started and ive still got alot to learn, but its been alot of trial and error, im quite happy with how far ive come, knowledge included.[/QUOTE]
i honestly cant imagine you have any legitimate knowledge with a routine that is 3x10-20 ( and some 3x8s) and is that bloated
So..am I doing the right perscribed set of wrist curls?
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;30035791]So..am I doing the right perscribed set of wrist curls?[/QUOTE]
10-12 sets of 30
wat is wrong with you
and why are you only doign wrist curls
[QUOTE=caaaasus;30035807]10-12 sets of 30
wat is wrong with you
and why are you only doign wrist curls[/QUOTE]
Who said I was only doing those?
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;30035847]Who said I was only doing those?[/QUOTE]
you did when you said thats what you do ( post 2842 + 2845
[QUOTE=caaaasus;30035866]you did when you said thats what you do[/QUOTE]
I said I do wrist curls. I never said I only do them. Shut up and stop placing words into statements that you did not make.
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;30035879]I said I do wrist curls. I never said I only do them. Shut up and stop placing words into statements that you did not make.[/QUOTE]
ok
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;30034414]Well..I've been doing about 10-12 sets of 30 with 15 pound dumbells...These things feel light now.[/QUOTE]
Lol what the fuck? You may be building endurance(pff), but if you want to get [B]stronger[/B], up the weight foo. also lower the reps per set
oh wise caaaasus please help me put together the home gym of my dreams
Anyone else dream of opening their own gym? Sometime in the future I'd like to. Find some nice empty warehouse, not too big, but not too small. Set it up, all with old school stuff, no stupid machines or anything, just old school free weights. Maybe set up a boxing ring as well. A man can dream.
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;30035879]I said I do wrist curls. I never said I only do them. Shut up and stop placing words into statements that you did not make.[/QUOTE]
all I know is that you guys shouldn't talk down on 98; he knows his shit
-sniparoon-
[QUOTE=luverofJ!93;30036243]Anyone else dream of opening their own gym? Sometime in the future I'd like to. Find some nice empty warehouse, not too big, but not too small. Set it up, all with old school stuff, no stupid machines or anything, just old school free weights. Maybe set up a boxing ring as well. A man can dream.[/QUOTE]
Please don't put a fucking boxing ring in there unless you are a legitimate coach and are legitimately producing fighters. Otherwise you are just going to have douchebags who think they are still in high school trying to settle beefs every two seconds.
if you fly to knoxville , tn USA then ill box you jaeger
[QUOTE=caaaasus;30035788]i honestly cant imagine you have any legitimate knowledge with a routine that is 3x10-20 ( and some 3x8s) and is that bloated[/QUOTE]
Your an idiot, if had actually read my routine you would have noticed practically all my sets consist of 8 reps and a minimum of 3 sets per exercise, the 20 rep thing your talking about is actually weighted lunges which is actually 20 steps, and bloated? you dont know what your talking about kid.
you have more exercises than you need per muscle group ( that means bloated) , and theres no reason to pass the 8 rep range on p much anything at you stage, also your routine composition is terrible . how old are you
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wait youre saying i dont know what im talking about when youre the one that gained <~20 lbs of muscle in 10 months
No I dont actually, 3 exercises per muscle group is not to much and if I were bloated I would be soft to the touch which im not. And I dont pass the 8 rep range if I can then im not lifting heavy enough. lets see your routine then hmm?
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