[QUOTE=azure 505;50187721]Anybody here have a Ruger SP101? Been looking into them and so far the only downside I can find is a heavy trigger pull. Looking for a relatively small .357 in that price range that isn't too light to handle the recoil, and the SP101 seems like the best option to me.[/QUOTE]
Rent and shoot it first. 357 snubbies, even if it's all steel, are very unpleasant to shoot. As for the trigger pull, just dry fire it to death. The gun will smooth out pretty quick.
Other options are the S&Ws and the LCR. I'd avoid Taurus and other brands like the plague.
I've handled one and tried a few shots with it. It was okay enough for me. I might get one if I don't have enough patience to wait for a S&W686
[QUOTE=Lone_Star94;50187765]Rent and shoot it first. 357 snubbies, even if it's all steel, are very unpleasant to shoot. As for the trigger pull, just dry fire it to death. The gun will smooth out pretty quick.
Other options are the S&Ws and the LCR. I'd avoid Taurus and other brands like the plague.[/QUOTE]
Aight, that's what I was thinking. I'll probably mostly shoot .38 anyway, cause I get the idea that .38 +P will be enough for me. Will have to see if they have any to rent when I check the range out.
I wish I could fit a real bayonet to my quadrail AR. I can't believe nobody makes a lug that fits on the end of a picatinny rail.
I wanted to get a 16" quad rail and put those little Laserlyte pistol bayonets all the way around it.
[QUOTE=azure 505;50187721]Anybody here have a Ruger SP101? Been looking into them and so far the only downside I can find is a heavy trigger pull. Looking for a relatively small .357 in that price range that isn't too light to handle the recoil, and the SP101 seems like the best option to me.[/QUOTE]
I have it's big brother, the GP100, and I love it.
But like Lone_Star said, carry snub-nose revolvers above .38SPL are really unpleasant to shoot. Honestly I'd find yourself a 4" GP100. It'll be a little bulkier but the recoil will be a lot more manageable.
[QUOTE=Lone_Star94;50187400]If you think it's the flash hider, why not take it off, shoot it, and see if it really is the problem?[/QUOTE]
Not that easy to remove the flash hider from a No.5 Carbine.
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;50189191]I wish I could fit a real bayonet to my quadrail AR. I can't believe nobody makes a lug that fits on the end of a picatinny rail.[/QUOTE]
Who needs pick-a-teeny rails when you can use America's greatest contribution to the civilized world, DUCT TAPE
[QUOTE=Lone_Star94;50187765]Rent and shoot it first. 357 snubbies, even if it's all steel, are very unpleasant to shoot. As for the trigger pull, just dry fire it to death. The gun will smooth out pretty quick.
Other options are the S&Ws and the LCR. I'd avoid Taurus and other brands like the plague.[/QUOTE]
You think snub .357's are bad, try a snub .44 magnum! I've got a 5 shot 2" Rossi (Basically a Taurus tracker with 2" barrel) which is a hell of a lot of fun to shoot until the recoil hits the nerve in your hand and sends a shooting pain all the way up your arm.
In other news the X-Products can launcher are legal again.
[url]http://www.ammoland.com/2016/04/x-products-can-cannon-batf-restrictions-overturned/#axzz46hfyxKH7[/url]
[quote=ATF]“Our examination determined that the aforementioned design features, combined with the presence of a permanent and substantial blocking feature located directly in front of the barrel chamber, prevents the chambering of a commercially available .223 Remington caliber ammunition cartridge. FTISB found the submitted sample is designed to only accept a 5.56mm or .223 Remington caliber blank cartridge and the “barrel portion” of the “Can Cannon” incorporating a chamber, is not a firearm barrel.
As a result, if the submitted Can Cannon were assembled to an AR-type firearm receiver incorporating a shoulder stock, this assembly or aggregate of parts would not constitute a “firearm” as defined in the NFA, 26 U.S.C 5845(a)(5). Such an assembly of either of the aforementioned scenarios is lawful.”[/quote]
Apparently putting in a little steel bar in the chamber to keep live ammo from going inside was enough to appease the ATF. As such, when mounted to a lower with or without a stock it is not considered a firearm? What?
[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;50189927]You think snub .357's are bad, try a snub .44 magnum! I've got a 5 shot 2" Rossi (Basically a Taurus tracker with 2" barrel) which is a hell of a lot of fun to shoot until the recoil hits the nerve in your hand and sends a shooting pain all the way up your arm.
In other news the X-Products can launcher are legal again.
[url]http://www.ammoland.com/2016/04/x-products-can-cannon-batf-restrictions-overturned/#axzz46hfyxKH7[/url]
Apparently putting in a little steel bar in the chamber to keep live ammo from going inside was enough to appease the ATF. As such, when mounted to a lower with or without a stock it is not considered a firearm? What?[/QUOTE]
Then there's always this for real masochists.
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[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;50189927]
Apparently putting in a little steel bar in the chamber to keep live ammo from going inside was enough to appease the ATF. As such, when mounted to a lower with or without a stock it is not considered a firearm? What?[/QUOTE]
They're saying specifically it doesn't constitute an "Any Other Weapon" NFA controlled firearm.
When they say it "Doesn't constitute a firearm as defined in the NFA Title 26, Capter 5845, Section A, Subsection 5" they're saying it does not fit the definition of that particular section, which reads:
[quote](e) Any other weapon. The term 'any other weapon' means any weapon or device capable of being concealed on the person from which a shot can be discharged through the energy of an explosive, a pistol or revolver having a barrel with a smooth bore designed or redesigned to fire a fixed shotgun shell, weapons with combination shotgun and rifle barrels 12 inches or more, less than 18 inches in length, from which only a single discharge can be made from either barrel without manual reloading, and shall include any such weapon which may be readily restored to fire. Such term shall not include a pistol or a revolver having a rifled bore, or rifled bores, or weapons designed, made, or intended to be fired from the shoulder and not capable of firing fixed ammunition. [/quote]
I.E. it is no longer an NFA weapon.
[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;50190453]They're saying specifically it doesn't constitute an "Any Other Weapon" NFA controlled firearm.
When they say it "Doesn't constitute a firearm as defined in the NFA Title 26, Capter 5845, Section A, Subsection 5" they're saying it does not fit the definition of that particular section, which reads:
I.E. it is no longer an NFA weapon.[/QUOTE]
I understand that part. I just find it weird that they have the term "firearm" described in such a way. That's entirely different than the standard legal definition.
[QUOTE=Lone_Star94;50187765]Rent and shoot it first. 357 snubbies, even if it's all steel, are very unpleasant to shoot. As for the trigger pull, just dry fire it to death. The gun will smooth out pretty quick.
Other options are the S&Ws and the LCR. I'd avoid Taurus and other brands like the plague.[/QUOTE]
isn't dry firing supposed to be bad for guns or am I missing something and snapper caps are useless?
It's bad for some .22s since the firing pin will contact steel, snapcaps are good for dry-running where having a cartridge is ideal for function testing (cycling) but you don't want a live one so you don't kill anyone. I dry fire my guns all the time... it can't hurt a centerfire weapon anymore than firing live ammo.
[QUOTE=zach1193;50192612]isn't dry firing supposed to be bad for guns or am I missing something and snapper caps are useless?[/QUOTE]
It's only bad for rimfires and older revolvers that use a hammer mounted firing pin. All of today's modern revolvers use a flat hammer and a frame mounted firing pin. Even Ruger's site says it's ok.
[QUOTE=Lone_Star94;50192709]It's only bad for rimfires and older revolvers that use a hammer mounted firing pin. All of today's modern revolvers use a flat hammer and a frame mounted firing pin. Even Ruger's site says it's ok.[/QUOTE]
I have a SAA clone with a hammer mounted firing pin and never got the impression it was a bad idea to dry-fire it. I can't think of any reason it might be.
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;50192713]I have a SAA clone with a hammer mounted firing pin and never got the impression it was a bad idea to dry-fire it. I can't think of any reason it might be.[/QUOTE]
The older ones were more brittle and you had a good chance of ruining the firing pin channel. Once the firing pin is taking the brunt of the force, the firing pin or the pin holding the firing pin in place will break.
I guess I'll be nicer to it. It's about 50 years old.
Thanks for the heads up, too bad all my guns save for the 12 ga are .22 rimfire atm, since I couldn't bring anything nice to california from new york
[QUOTE=zach1193;50192612]isn't dry firing supposed to be bad for guns or am I missing something and snapper caps are useless?[/QUOTE]
It's only bad for really old guns and generally all rimfires.
"Dry firing is bad don't ever do it omfg" is something that overprotective idiots and retail establishments have turned into a widespread myth because stupidity.
So then manufacturer's stepped in and started producing snap caps to profit off that stupidity because, hey, why the fuck not pay $18 for 2 fake cartridges that solve a problem that never existed right?
worst thing you can do on a newer rimfire is peen the firing pin which really isn't that big a deal, a top of the line replacement will be $30 max. dry firing will never hurt a centerfire gun. I wouldn't suggest it on a caplock or pinfire either
[QUOTE=butre;50193367]worst thing you can do on a newer rimfire is peen the firing pin which really isn't that big a deal, a top of the line replacement will be $30 max. dry firing will never hurt a centerfire gun. I wouldn't suggest it on a caplock or pinfire either[/QUOTE]
Even on the new rimfire guns you can peen the edge of the chamber too though, which that's a little more difficult to replace.
There's only one rimfire I know of that it specifically states in the manual it's ok to dry fire, and that's the Ruger SR22 pistol.
not likely. the chamber will always be harder than the firing pin on any rimfire that's worth a damn
Not really. Barrels are generally 4030 while pins are hardened steels like 80XX type steels.
[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;50194699]Even on the new rimfire guns you can peen the edge of the chamber too though, which that's a little more difficult to replace.
There's only one rimfire I know of that it specifically states in the manual it's ok to dry fire, and that's the Ruger SR22 pistol.[/QUOTE]
Their MK II/III series also says it's ok. You need to dry fire the thing anyway to disassemble it. The issue that comes from this though the roll pin, that prevents the firing pin from peening the chamber, takes all the force. Do that a few hundred times, and that needs to be replaced.
As far as dry firing goes, the only other guns that explicitly say not to are uber priced shotguns/drillings/double rifles, and the Thompson Center Contenders/Encores. Plenty of threads about broken firing pins on the Thompsons.
[editline]24th April 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=download;50194789]Not really. Barrels are generally 4030 while pins are hardened steels like 80XX type steels.[/QUOTE]
That, or for older guns, it's softer steel barrel and a case hardened firing pin. Soft steel for low pressure rounds of the early rimfire cartridges.
Back to the scope discussion before I start putting plans in motion - for the sake of future proofing, would the 3-9x40mm Leupold VX-1 be worth it, or should I go for something a bit more up in the line?
[editline]25th April 2016[/editline]
This is to be mounted on a rimfire (.22LR mostly, but I may pick up a .17 HMR later.)
I'm open to suggestions (I know you told me some brands but the only one I can think of is Zeiss)
[QUOTE=TechnoSandwic;50197689]I'm open to suggestions (I know you told me some brands but the only one I can think of is Zeiss)[/QUOTE]
I am loving the Conquest HD5 at the moment. I haven't used their Terra line but I hear they aren't bad either.
Woohoo! I just picked up an Arsenal SLR 107FR yesterday. I can't wait to shoot it. Also they have an SVT-40 for $1300.00 and a DPMS AR in 308 for $1000 are either worth picking up? The AR comes with 5 magazines and has all MagPul furniture on it.
just picked up a PPS-43c yesterday, decided to show it off with the Nagant revolver and other Russian things
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cant wait to hit the range
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