• Firearms XIII - Talk about all the guns
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Here in the US, this is a machine gun: [img]http://cdn1.ima-usa.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/88decfed4fba5801a7dc8e03047eb978/m/g/mg4008__1.jpg[/img] Or at least the opposite plate is.
This is also a machine gun [IMG]http://firearmdeals.com/Dons/LL08122007_%20001.jpg[/IMG]
it's a bottle opener, officer
[QUOTE=Ridge;49522092]This is also a machine gun [IMG]http://firearmdeals.com/Dons/LL08122007_%20001.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] What even is that?
It's a lightning link. I'm not sure on the specifics of what parts you need or what modifications you might need to do to get it to work, but it can be used to make an AR-15 fire in full auto. [t]http://www.quarterbore.com/images/nfall2.jpg[/t] From what I can remember, I think if you have an M16 bolt or any other, legal bolt from a rifle capable of automatic fire, it slams home against the little metal flap which then levers the 'bottle opener' part back and disengages the sear, dropping the hammer. I hope I'm not going to get in trouble for just explaining how it works :v:
you need to have a colt SP-1 bolt or it won't work [editline]13th January 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=FloaterTWO;49522266]I hope I'm not going to get in trouble for just explaining how it works :v:[/QUOTE] there's nothing illegal about knowledge. [url=http://imgur.com/a/otyXA][img]http://i.imgur.com/RQw1omW.gif[/img][/url] click the image for a link to the imgur gallery containing everything you need to know if you want to know about a lightning link don't make one the lawyers said so
[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;49521623]in norway, the registered parts (that need to be applied for import for) are: all rifles and shotguns; receiver and barrel pistols; frame, slide/bolt, barrel revolver; frame and barrel So the idiot US sites that refuse to send bolts, magazines, stocks etc are just pants on head retarded. [editline]13th January 2016[/editline] those parts are the only ones that are registered in Norway. One receiver/frame counts as one weapon. You can own for example one rifle with ten barrels and a handgun frame with ten slides and ten barrels. Still counts as two firearms.[/QUOTE] US sites are just covering their asses by not exporting parts like that. It's really just too much trouble to have to worry about what you can and can't export. If a part can't be considered scrap metal or scrap wood, then I wouldn't bother either. The potential to face fines or hassle with customs just isn't worth it for a handful of international customers.
[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;49523616]the reason it's just a "handful" is because ITAR/stubborn american companies refuse to send anything. if you order things like screws, springs, bolts from numrich, they demand to see a norwegian våpenkort (gun license card/registration, one for each gun). it has absolutely no relation to norwegian legislation whatsoever[/QUOTE] again, it's just to cover their asses. Every country has different importation and exportation laws when concerning firearms, and I would bet money that foreign sales for companies like Brownells and Numrich is extremely marginal to their overall profit. I doubt they want to go through the effort of putting together a comprehensive list of things they can and can't sell to certain countries. It's easier for them to request your license when you buy something because it saves them the trouble of having to research your country's laws.
In the US, this is also a machinegun: [img]http://www.cliparthut.com/clip-arts/55/shoe-lace-clip-art-55994.jpg[/img] [editline]13th January 2016[/editline] Classic has LE trade in Gen 3 G21s with night sights for sale $400 [url]https://www.classicfirearms.com/glock-21-gen-3-le-used-w-1-mag-night-sights?utm_source=Classic+Firearms&utm_campaign=046b892fd3-Mailchimp_2016-01-13_Glock&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_afe48e03d8-046b892fd3-238413017&mc_cid=046b892fd3&mc_eid=33905023b2[/url]
[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;49523616]the reason it's just a "handful" is because ITAR/stubborn american companies refuse to send anything. if you order things like screws, springs, bolts from numrich, they demand to see a norwegian våpenkort (gun license card/registration, one for each gun). it has absolutely no relation to norwegian legislation whatsoever[/QUOTE] logistically it's easier to ask for a vapenkunt or w/e for everything than only certain items like how a lot of american companies will require you to be 21 and up for ammo purchases rather than 18 and up for rifle and shotgun and 21 and up for handgun ammo [editline]14th January 2016[/editline] its easy enough to use modify screws and springs from the hardware store to match anyway
[QUOTE=Whibble;49519194]Anyone have experience with pocket carry? I've got a Kimber Ultra Carry II and I IWB carry it, but sometimes I just don't have time to strap on the belt and IWB holster and get it all situated and everything. I was thinking of getting a pocket carry holster for the Kimber, but is 25 ounces of weight and 6.5" length too big for pocket carry? Anyone know what would be comfortable? I always see fuckin' derringers, tiny .38 snubs, and .22's advertised as pocket carry guns, but is it possible to carry something larger? Pic related. [img_thumb]http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z449/Whibble/IMG_0878_zpsbuobiwgo.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] I pocket carry a Ruger LCP with a frame clip in my jeans every day. I can post a picture comparing it to a full size 1911 or a SCCY CPX or a Walther P22 if you'd like.
I can import parts no problem to Sweden. But I'm still looking for a Zastava M70 front handguard upper and lower. And It's impossible to find zastava parts legally here in Sweden
I can carry my S&W Bodyguard 380 in my pocket but I personally think it's a little big unless you have big ass pockets like cargo pants with deep ones. But like with jeans, it's too big if you ask me. That being said I think that Kimber is pushing it for pocket carry. That'd be tough to conceal inside a pocket.
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;49527885]I can carry my S&W Bodyguard 380 in my pocket but I personally think it's a little big unless you have big ass pockets like cargo pants with deep ones. But like with jeans, it's too big if you ask me. That being said I think that Kimber is pushing it for pocket carry. That'd be tough to conceal inside a pocket.[/QUOTE] The Bodyguard is slightly bigger than my LCP.
[QUOTE=Camwi_003;49527895]The Bodyguard is slightly bigger than my LCP.[/QUOTE] The LCP is freaking tiny. Whenever I shoot it after putting rounds down my 4506 it gets away from me on the first shot every time.
[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;49528896]i think it's pretty hilarious how 16 year olds can buy guns and ammo here while in the us you have to show ID of being 21+ to buy .357 at walmart?[/QUOTE] Gun stores aren't allowed to sell ammo for pistols to under 21s. They will usually ask what you're going to shoot it from and if you answer with a rifle they'll sell it to you. The guy in one store always asks me how my .32 ACP AR-15 upper is doing when he sees me :v:
12-year-olds with a minor's license can buy ammo in Canada, any ammo. A 12-year-old could buy .25ACP, and I don't think there's a single gun in the country in that calibre that's still legal. And you can buy any gun at 18 as long as you have the right license. My dad bought me my first handgun at 18 and had it in his name until I got my license in the mail, then we transferred it. We'd both be going to prison in the US for that.
[url]http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/en-US/display/20152016/HB/731[/url] [I]Ohgod.[/I] Anyone else in Georgia, we gotta kill this bill. It bans virtually every weapon save for hunting rifles/shotguns with traditional stocks and handguns. No grandfathering either, if passed, you must either sell, destroy, or turn in [I]all[/I] banned firearms/ammo/attachments.
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;49530332][url]http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/en-US/display/20152016/HB/731[/url] [I]Ohgod.[/I] Anyone else in Georgia, we gotta kill this bill. It bans virtually every weapon save for hunting rifles/shotguns with traditional stocks and handguns. No grandfathering either, if passed, you must either sell, destroy, or turn in [I]all[/I] banned firearms/ammo/attachments.[/QUOTE] Wow, that's surprising knowing a southern state. I'd expect shit like that here in Maryland.
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;49530167]12-year-olds with a minor's license can buy ammo in Canada, any ammo. A 12-year-old could buy .25ACP, and I don't think there's a single gun in the country in that calibre that's still legal. And you can buy any gun at 18 as long as you have the right license. My dad bought me my first handgun at 18 and had it in his name until I got my license in the mail, then we transferred it. We'd both be going to prison in the US for that.[/QUOTE] No you wouldn't, you don't need any paperwork or anything for a private transfer, and under 21 you can still legally get a handgun through private sale or transfer, just not from a store. Plus you don't need silly licenses.
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;49530332][URL]http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/en-US/display/20152016/HB/731[/URL] [I]Ohgod.[/I] Anyone else in Georgia, we gotta kill this bill. It bans virtually every weapon save for hunting rifles/shotguns with traditional stocks and handguns. No grandfathering either, if passed, you must either sell, destroy, or turn in [I]all[/I] banned firearms/ammo/attachments.[/QUOTE] It will probably be DOA. The deep South is nothing like the Northeastern coastal states.
[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;49528896]i think it's pretty hilarious how 16 year olds can buy guns and ammo here while in the us you have to show ID of being 21+ to buy .357 at walmart?[/QUOTE] In my State they won't even sell you .357 even if you're 21 and if you don't have a pistol permit to prove you own a handgun in that caliber.
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;49530332][url]http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/en-US/display/20152016/HB/731[/url] [I]Ohgod.[/I] Anyone else in Georgia, we gotta kill this bill. It bans virtually every weapon save for hunting rifles/shotguns with traditional stocks and handguns. No grandfathering either, if passed, you must either sell, destroy, or turn in [I]all[/I] banned firearms/ammo/attachments.[/QUOTE] It's got about as much chance of passing as Al Capone at a law enforcement convention. Wouldn't worry too much about it.
There's a gun show going on this weekend in Louisville, pretty close to where I live. I think I might actually attend, they look like they have a lot of antiques 'n' shit. Is there anything I should expect in terms of atmosphere and conduct? I've never been to any form of show/convention.
It's just like any massive sale. I've never seen any issues. Worst I've seen here in MD is guys get arrested for selling the big scary 30 round mags. (That you can drive 20 mins to Pennsylvania and buy 100% legally)
I also have a question dealing with gun mechanics. Is it possible to prevent a gun from firing without use of the safety and regardless of whether it's loaded? That is to say, what combination of the fewest or smallest possible (preferably internal) parts would render a firearm completely inoperable without replacing them? I want to be a smartass (to myself) and say the trigger, but I'm legitimately curious as I don't know much about the internals of a gun.
[QUOTE=Birdman101;49530356]No you wouldn't, you don't need any paperwork or anything for a private transfer, and under 21 you can still legally get a handgun through private sale or transfer, just not from a store. Plus you don't need silly licenses.[/QUOTE] Everything I've heard says that if my dad bought the handgun specifically to sell it to me when I'm under 21, which he did, we'd both be committing a felony.
[QUOTE=Vitisus;49530710]I also have a question dealing with gun mechanics. Is it possible to prevent a gun from firing without use of the safety and regardless of whether it's loaded? That is to say, what combination of the fewest or smallest possible (preferably internal) parts would render a firearm completely inoperable without replacing them? I want to be a smartass (to myself) and say the trigger, but I'm legitimately curious as I don't know much about the internals of a gun.[/QUOTE] A gun with no firing pin can't fire period. [editline]14th January 2016[/editline] Gun shows will most commonly have the weapon's action fully open, locked, and with a zip tie through the length of the barrel and out the action.
[QUOTE=Vitisus;49530671]There's a gun show going on this weekend in Louisville, pretty close to where I live. I think I might actually attend, they look like they have a lot of antiques 'n' shit. Is there anything I should expect in terms of atmosphere and conduct? I've never been to any form of show/convention.[/QUOTE] Depends on the region really. In Florida, most of the firearms at the gunshows were generic out of the box AR's and AK's, with the occasional crusty old guy selling some WWII relics. 9/10 tables are going to be gun-store tables, and for the few that aren't, they're mostly going to be selling knives or holsters or body armor. I think the last Florida gunshow I went to had 4 tables set up selling guns privately, out of probably 3-4 dozen tables in total. Up here in North Dakota, most of the guns are collectible hunting rifles and antiques. Theres of course AR's and AK's up here but the majority of the people who go to gun shows up here are looking to get a good deal on a hunting rifle or a handgun, not some tactical schlock. Theres also a lot of good tables up here selling WWII relics, which is what I love. Last gunshow there was a guy selling 3 G43's of various condition, and an all matching all original K98k sniper rifle. But of course, at any gunshow no matter where you go, there will be the guy selling Nazi relics and memorabilia. Not just old medals and helmets, but new production Nazi stuff thats really riding the border of whats acceptable to own as a decent human being. If you want to look at a gun, always ask first and never touch the trigger. If you bring a gun with you, keep it slung over your shoulder or holstered and don't take the zip tie off, ever. Even if you don't plan to buy anything there, it's still fun to go. Lots of interesting people there and lots of cool stuff to be seen and some deals to be had. Admission is usually under $10 and its an easy way to spend a day. [editline]14th January 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Vitisus;49530710]I also have a question dealing with gun mechanics. Is it possible to prevent a gun from firing without use of the safety and regardless of whether it's loaded? That is to say, what combination of the fewest or smallest possible (preferably internal) parts would render a firearm completely inoperable without replacing them? I want to be a smartass (to myself) and say the trigger, but I'm legitimately curious as I don't know much about the internals of a gun.[/QUOTE] It depends on the firearm, but for the most part removing the firing pin will prevent it from firing under any circumstance. Like you said, taking the trigger out would do it but guns with free floating firing pins could fire if they drop them.
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;49531065]Depends on the region really. In Florida, most of the firearms at the gunshows were generic out of the box AR's and AK's, with the occasional crusty old guy selling some WWII relics. 9/10 tables are going to be gun-store tables, and for the few that aren't, they're mostly going to be selling knives or holsters or body armor. I think the last Florida gunshow I went to had 4 tables set up selling guns privately, out of probably 3-4 dozen tables in total. Up here in North Dakota, most of the guns are collectible hunting rifles and antiques. Theres of course AR's and AK's up here but the majority of the people who go to gun shows up here are looking to get a good deal on a hunting rifle or a handgun, not some tactical schlock. Theres also a lot of good tables up here selling WWII relics, which is what I love. Last gunshow there was a guy selling 3 G43's of various condition, and an all matching all original K98k sniper rifle. But of course, at any gunshow no matter where you go, there will be the guy selling Nazi relics and memorabilia. Not just old medals and helmets, but new production Nazi stuff thats really riding the border of whats acceptable to own as a decent human being. If you want to look at a gun, always ask first and never touch the trigger. If you bring a gun with you, keep it slung over your shoulder or holstered and don't take the zip tie off, ever. Even if you don't plan to buy anything there, it's still fun to go. Lots of interesting people there and lots of cool stuff to be seen and some deals to be had. Admission is usually under $10 and its an easy way to spend a day. [editline]14th January 2016[/editline] It depends on the firearm, but for the most part removing the firing pin will prevent it from firing under any circumstance. Like you said, taking the trigger out would do it but guns with free floating firing pins could fire if they drop them.[/QUOTE] That's pretty much exactly how the Sioux falls gun show is
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