Firearms XIII - Talk about all the guns - General

Doesn't look that complicated/difficult to me: [url]http://www.police.nsw.gov.au/services/firearms/permits/prohibited_weapon_permits[/url] All of my groups on Facebook are telling everyone to go ahead and apply, too. [editline]8th March 2016[/editline] Oh, a Silencer Permit IS a Prohibited Weapons Permit

[QUOTE=TechnoSandwic;49891211]Doesn't look that complicated/difficult to me: [url]http://www.police.nsw.gov.au/services/firearms/permits/prohibited_weapon_permits[/url] All of my groups on Facebook are telling everyone to go ahead and apply, too. [editline]8th March 2016[/editline] Oh, a Silencer Permit IS a Prohibited Weapons Permit[/QUOTE] You'll still need a second permit for the rifle you want to attach it too.

[QUOTE=download;49891250]You'll still need a second permit for the rifle you want to attach it too.[/QUOTE] That's ATF-level retarded.

And in Canada I can get a threaded-barrelled gun, but the silencer itself is so illegal there's literally no way at all to get one.

[QUOTE=Bonde;49887148]"high" caliber handguns.[/QUOTE] what 9mm is high caliber now? [editline]8th March 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=download;49887994]It's a fixed power Redfield and I'd probably put a Leupold on it.[/QUOTE] Oh, yeah, probably best to rip that thing off then. As far as scopes go, I'd look at Vortex. They're on par with Leupold but like half the cost. Whenever I showed them to customers, they were surprised at how clear the sight picture was and how easy it was to find the eye relief and stay in it. Their Crossfire II line has a REALLY nice 4-12x50mm in it, and if you want to go a little higher in price range their Diamondback line has a great 3.5-10x50mm Or if you want really high end or really long range, they've got two in the Viper HS line that are amazing. 4-16x50mm and 6-24x50mm [editline]8th March 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;49889178] The CPX-2 is definitely an inexpensive firearm in all ways. Like, it's a good-looking HiPoint essentially. The gun rattles harder than a Thai hooker and the slide had all these metal shavings in the groves and stuff out the box. Also the slide-stop is impossible to use with your thumb by it's self, it's easier to just rack the slide again. I'm going shooting tomorrow I'll report back.[/QUOTE] That's a lot of lacking in the QC department that I'm not used to seeing from SCCY. I wonder what happened? I'd definitely send the gun back to the manufacturer with your complaints, they'll usually fix it up for you. Also, got a lot of experience with rattling Thai hookers do we? :weeb:

It's a 45-70. There is no long ranged involved there. I'd want a fixed power 4x or 2x.

[QUOTE=download;49891782]It's a 45-70. There is no long ranged involved there. I'd want a fixed power 4x or 2x.[/QUOTE] You're kidding right? .45-70 is decent all the way out to 300 yards, and at 600 if you can manage to compensate for the bullet drop you'll still be putting down bull elks and shit. If that's your thing then I'd go for a 3-9x40 or 3-9x50 variable scope. Crossfire II series, about $250.

[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;49891803]You're kidding right? .45-70 is decent all the way out to 300 yards, and at 600 if you can manage to compensate for the bullet drop you'll still be putting down bull elks and shit. If that's your thing then I'd go for a 3-9x40 or 3-9x50 variable scope. Crossfire II series, about $250.[/QUOTE] If you have a range-finder and don't mind using it like an artillery gun perhaps, but few are actually interested in doing that besides mucking around.

[QUOTE=download;49891825]If you have a range-finder and don't mind using it like an artillery gun [/QUOTE] well yeah I mean that's how you're supposed to shoot .45-70 :v:

Round that sized it [I]is[/I] artillery.

[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;49891757]what 9mm is high caliber now? [/QUOTE] If the most common pistol shooting sport by far is .22 target shooting, then yes. To give an idea, our club owns 15-20 target pistols and revolvers for members to borrow, while only owning four 9mm pistols and one revolver in .38 special. Also our indoor range is only qualified for up to and including .357 magnum as far as I remember.

[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;49891972]Round that sized it [I]is[/I] artillery.[/QUOTE] It's my favorite rifle round :cat:

.45-70 seemed like an interesting round for fucking around, until I realized it costs more than $2 per shot and wouldn't be at all useful in a practical sense for me. Kinda similar story with .410, it's just too expensive for fucking around, and it's not really practical for much else when I have plenty of other guns that can be used for hunting out to much farther ranges, and are much cheaper to bring to the range. That being said, there is some merit to it being the oldest rifle cartridge still in "common-use."

[QUOTE=DaCommie1;49892648].45-70 seemed like an interesting round for fucking around, until I realized it costs more than $2 per shot and wouldn't be at all useful in a practical sense for me. Kinda similar story with .410, it's just too expensive for fucking around, and it's not really practical for much else when I have plenty of other guns that can be used for hunting out to much farther ranges, and are much cheaper to bring to the range. That being said, there is some merit to it being the oldest rifle cartridge still in "common-use."[/QUOTE] Are you not allowed to buy ammo online in Canada? $1.35/rd for the really nice stuff (Hornady Lever-Revolution 325gr Polymer Tipped Hollow Points, $1.70/rd for 430gr HSM Round Nose Flat Point Lead [editline]8th March 2016[/editline] Also actually the oldest rifle cartridge still in common use is .22 short. Started production in 1857 vs .45-70's 1873.

We can buy ammo online, but shipping is a bitch if the retailer doesn't offer free shipping, and if they do it's always got a minimum order. We also can't order from the US due largely to ITAR. The store I work at charges $45/20 for Winchester Super X, the LeverEvolution stuff is like $60/20. Our shitty dollar is really hurting the industry here.

That sucks.

Went shooting today. No issues with any of the new guns thank god. My G26 doesn't brass me in the face every two shots. I got some more time in with the KSG. It's still a buggy piece of shit but I'm starting to run drills with it. I still struggle like every night on if I should sell it. I think it may be good to just get rid of it and buy a Bullpup Unlimited kit for my Mossberg. But the KSG is just cool looking and I'm worried about selling it to someone and having them come back and bitch about how shitty it is. [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Flr0CEKfP2Q&feature=youtu.be[/media] Aside that my M1 Carbine continues to FTF and hang up in the chamber. I replaced all the springs so I don't know what else to try now. [editline]9th March 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;49891757] That's a lot of lacking in the QC department that I'm not used to seeing from SCCY. I wonder what happened? I'd definitely send the gun back to the manufacturer with your complaints, they'll usually fix it up for you. Also, got a lot of experience with rattling Thai hookers do we? :weeb:[/QUOTE] I'll wait for it to break before I send it back. I have a year of free back-to-manufacturer shipping and than that glorious life-time warranty. A lot of people online say their ejectors rattle like that too and I shot it today without issue. So I'm cool with it.

[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;49891714]and I can buy as many as I want to in cash or over the internet, delivered in my mailbox :VVVVVVVVVVVVVV[/QUOTE] We have a "Hearing protection act" or some such bill going through our legislation right now thats going to deregulate suppressors. So maybe within the next year or so we can be buying and building suppressors like you guys.

Suppressors are super overpriced and I don't expect that to change when they're deregulated. I will never own one.

[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;49897082]Went shooting today. No issues with any of the new guns thank god. My G26 doesn't brass me in the face every two shots. I got some more time in with the KSG. It's still a buggy piece of shit but I'm starting to run drills with it. I still struggle like every night on if I should sell it. I think it may be good to just get rid of it and buy a Bullpup Unlimited kit for my Mossberg. But the KSG is just cool looking and I'm worried about selling it to someone and having them come back and bitch about how shitty it is. [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Flr0CEKfP2Q&feature=youtu.be[/media] Aside that my M1 Carbine continues to FTF and hang up in the chamber. I replaced all the springs so I don't know what else to try now. [editline]9th March 2016[/editline] I'll wait for it to break before I send it back. I have a year of free back-to-manufacturer shipping and than that glorious life-time warranty. A lot of people online say their ejectors rattle like that too and I shot it today without issue. So I'm cool with it.[/QUOTE] If your M1 is failing to fire and you're getting a hang up it could be tight/short chambered. If it's not getting into full battery (It may look like it is, but without checking the headspace there's no way to know for sure) the hammer could be just striking the bolt carrier, and with the round being forced into a small chamber that would prevent it from being easily extracted. I'd check the headspace. [editline]9th March 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Grenadiac;49899149]Suppressors are super overpriced and I don't expect that to change when they're deregulated. I will never own one.[/QUOTE] I would expect the price to change. If they become deregulated it's no longer a niche market, the cost and expensive of the legal side for the manufacturer goes down, and then anyone with a Type 7 FFL can make them without having to have an SOT. That will make for a much more competitive market which will cause production to increase and price to go down. Right now they are so expensive not because of the materials used or time it takes to manufacture, but because of all the legal BS the manufacturers have to do as well as having to recoup initial costs. Companies like Silencerco that's all they do, so if they flop they have nothing to fall back on. Sig Sauer on the other hand has a much more diverse portfolio of products they offer, and so if their cans flop they've got other sources of income. That's part of the reason their cans are a little over half price of what silencer only manufacturers offer for a comparable product.

How do you check head space and if I found an issue how would that be corrected? Sounds like something that needs to involve a gunsmith and I'd rather not hand over a treasured family heirloom to a stranger. If I can't fix it myself than it doesn't get fixed at all as far as I'm concerned.

[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;49901111]How do you check head space and if I found an issue how would that be corrected? Sounds like something that needs to involve a gunsmith and I'd rather not hand over a treasured family heirloom to a stranger. If I can't fix it myself than it doesn't get fixed at all as far as I'm concerned.[/QUOTE] It's definitively a gunsmith thing. Not that it's all that difficult, you could probably do all of it yourself if you had the tools. But the correct tools are expensive. The first thing you should have checked is the headspace, which the gunsmith will use of specific gauges to make sure the cartridge isn't going too far or not far enough into the chamber. If the headspace checks out for the most part, it could just be a tight chamber that requires some polishing. If the headspace is bad, depending on whether it's not deep enough or too deep, the gun smith will either hit it with a hand reamer to get it to the correct headspace or you'll have to get a new barrel. From what you described it doesn't sound like it's too deep so you can pretty much not worry about the second one. One thing you can do yourself that's easy and is hard to fuck up is polish the chamber. Basically just make sure the chamber is nice and clean, then with a dremel or drill put a cleaning rod with a brush on the end and wrap the brush with a cleaning patch. Put some light polishing compound (toothpaste works surprisingly well) and rub it into the patch on the brush, then stick that in the chamber and turn on the drill for a few seconds. Then just clean it out and try to chamber a dummy/snapcap, putting magic marker on the "primer". If the fireing pin is hitting the "primer" it'll show up in the magic marker. If it does make contact with the primer but still wont set off the round it could be a few things. The hammer springs could be weak, which it sounds like you've already replaced. The firing pin could be obstructed, which should be solved with a bolt strip down and cleaning. The hammer might be striking the bolt before the firing pin, which would go in line with things not headspacing properly. Lastly the firing pin might be short, as in the tip may have broken off through use. That is usually easy enough to fix as well. If you want to see if the hammer is striking the bolt carrier what you can do is take the carrier out, put some permanent marker on the shiny spots on the bottom of the carrier near the back, and put it back in. Then dry fire in and take everything out. If the hammer is striking the carrier you'll see some of the marker moved away. Usually if it's striking the carrier first you would see some peening on the carrier (depending on how many times it has striked the carrier), though more likely you'd see it on the hammer since the carriers are usually forged and heat treated while the hammers have been known to be cast and case hardened.

Called Browning about my gun again today. Nothing had been done since Monday. Turns out before the lady in charge of orders went on vacation she passed it off to another department, but because they didn't get my place of birth from her, which is required to initiate a transfer as a form of security question and pistols are still registered and therefore still need to be transferred, they couldn't start the transfer. I then get dropped while on hold for like 10 minutes. I call back and find out she's running around the warehouse about this. I then get an e-mail saying that the other department didn't get my place of birth, and now it's been sent off "to province" and that it's "high-priority" for them. We'll see how that goes. I really want this before the shoot I have on the 20th.

[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;49897082]Went shooting today. No issues with any of the new guns thank god. My G26 doesn't brass me in the face every two shots. I got some more time in with the KSG. It's still a buggy piece of shit but I'm starting to run drills with it. I still struggle like every night on if I should sell it. I think it may be good to just get rid of it and buy a Bullpup Unlimited kit for my Mossberg. But the KSG is just cool looking and I'm worried about selling it to someone and having them come back and bitch about how shitty it is. [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Flr0CEKfP2Q&feature=youtu.be[/media] Aside that my M1 Carbine continues to FTF and hang up in the chamber. I replaced all the springs so I don't know what else to try now. [editline]9th March 2016[/editline] I'll wait for it to break before I send it back. I have a year of free back-to-manufacturer shipping and than that glorious life-time warranty. A lot of people online say their ejectors rattle like that too and I shot it today without issue. So I'm cool with it.[/QUOTE] If you have a year of free shipping and a lifetime warranty why wait? Send it back now and ask them to revisit the QC of the weapon. They definitely will. Also, please god tell me your KSG wasn't fully loaded for that drill If it was fully loaded that's just sad, 2 shots per tube, what the fuck [editline]9th March 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Grenadiac;49899149]Suppressors are super overpriced and I don't expect that to change when they're deregulated. I will never own one.[/QUOTE] It definitely will change. If suppressors are deregulated they will most likely no longer require a special permit to build them, unless the ATF shoves some new bullshit in there with it, so as demand increases and new manufacturers enter the market, the (heavily inflated) prices of the suppressors will come down due to an unprecedented level of free market availability on something that used to be so heavily regulated. The only real reason suppressors are so expensive now is because demand is low due to the legal requirements of owning one, and despite ease of manufacture, production is limited because it requires a special manufacturer's license to build and sell them.

I went to another local store, they had the Ruger I was looking for. Payed for it, picking it up tomorrow after work. :dance: I'm surprised at the short waiting period.

[QUOTE=Psychokitten;49903100]I went to another local store, they had the Ruger I was looking for. Payed for it, picking it up tomorrow after work. :dance: I'm surprised at the short waiting period.[/QUOTE] Why a MK I? Why not a MK II or III?

[QUOTE=Lone_Star94;49903186]Why a MK I? Why not a MK II or III?[/QUOTE] MK I what?

[QUOTE=Psychokitten;49903220]MK I what?[/QUOTE] I think he saw: [quote]they had the [B]Ruger I[/B] was looking for.[/quote] and thought "MK I"

[QUOTE=GunFox;49903257]I think he saw: and thought "MK I"[/QUOTE] Ah. To clarify, I just bought myself a Ruger AR556.

What sorta ar build is decent around $450-500? Taking into account part price fluctuations.